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Insanity workout bad?

  • 05-06-2015 06:04PM
    #1
    rachelg1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭


    Is the Insanity workout really bad for your heart?


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  • #2
    Alf Veedersane
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    rachelg1 wrote: »
    Is the Insanity workout really bad for your heart?

    Where did you hear it was?


  • #3
    MightyMandarin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭MightyMandarin


    I doubt it's any worse than sitting on your arse all day.

    Unless you've a bad heart condition, or feel like you're going to collapse in the middle of a workout, it shouldn't be a risk for your heart at all.


  • #4
    Mellor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,377 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    MightyMandarin wrote: »
    Unless you've a bad heart condition, or feel like you're going to collapse in the middle of a workout, it shouldn't be a risk for your heart at all.

    Anybody who feels like they going to collapse in the middle of it is simply unfit, nothing to do with your heart.


  • #5
    DoYouEvenLift
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,188 ✭✭✭DoYouEvenLift


    Alf Veedersane wrote: »
    Where did you hear it was?


    A grandparent I'd say


  • #6
    L'prof
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,049 ✭✭✭✭L'prof


    rachelg1 wrote: »
    Is the Insanity workout really bad for your heart?

    If you're unfit, you're not goin to be able to keep up with the video, just do what you can. I did however find it very hard on my ankles and knees. Guess that'll depend on the person.


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  • #7
    Zillah
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    Mellor wrote: »
    Anybody who feels like they going to collapse in the middle of it is simply unfit, nothing to do with your heart.

    Unless there's something wrong with your heart...

    Plenty of news stories over the years where some young lad died on the pitch because a heart defect that had never been noticed before suddenly reared its head while under strain.


  • #8
    Mellor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,377 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Zillah wrote: »
    Unless there's something wrong with your heart...

    Plenty of news stories over the years where some young lad died on the pitch because a heart defect that had never been noticed before suddenly reared its head while under strain.

    Yeah sure, a heart defect can drop a seamingly healthy lad instantly. Often it's the very fit guys too. But it's some something that just happens, they wouldn't never have left it prior to that, on their first day of insanity fur example.


  • #9
    Do You Even Squat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭Do You Even Squat


    Insanity is a scam. Avoid it like the plague


  • #10
    Doug Cartel
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    Maybe I'm remembering this wrong, but wasn't Insanity the follow up to P90x?

    I can remember when P90x was popular, Insanity was supposed to be the hard-core version for the few people who had gone past P90x. Like, P90x was supposed to be a tough, and Insanity was supposed to be insanely tough and only for people who were already really fit. (Hence the name.)

    Now it seems that Insanity is seen as a starter program. I regularly seem to see on other forums people posting about how they are overweight office workers who never do any exercise, but they are going to start Insanity to shift some weight. Did they change what was in the program? Was P90x just not that tough to start with? Or are people just picking the wrong program?


  • #11
    Do You Even Squat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭Do You Even Squat


    Doug Cartel wrote: »
    Maybe I'm remembering this wrong, but wasn't Insanity the follow up to P90x?

    I can remember when P90x was popular, Insanity was supposed to be the hard-core version for the few people who had gone past P90x. Like, P90x was supposed to be a tough, and Insanity was supposed to be insanely tough and only for people who were already really fit. (Hence the name.)

    Now it seems that Insanity is seen as a starter program. I regularly seem to see on other forums people posting about how they are overweight office workers who never do any exercise, but they are going to start Insanity to shift some weight. Did they change what was in the program? Was P90x just not that tough to start with? Or are people just picking the wrong program?

    P90X and Insanity are made by 2 different people. However, they share one common factor. They're both 100% bullshít. They're both severely misleading. They trick those who are uneducated with regards to fitness by using lofty, hyperbolic buzz words and are completely disingenuous. I dont look at this forum often but the only legit source that I know for advice on fitness and weight lifting would be either starting strength.com or the stickies from the fora on bodybuilding.com. Please dont waste time and money on this shít.


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  • #12
    Tefral
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    Doug Cartel wrote: »
    Maybe I'm remembering this wrong, but wasn't Insanity the follow up to P90x?

    I can remember when P90x was popular, Insanity was supposed to be the hard-core version for the few people who had gone past P90x. Like, P90x was supposed to be a tough, and Insanity was supposed to be insanely tough and only for people who were already really fit. (Hence the name.)

    Now it seems that Insanity is seen as a starter program. I regularly seem to see on other forums people posting about how they are overweight office workers who never do any exercise, but they are going to start Insanity to shift some weight. Did they change what was in the program? Was P90x just not that tough to start with? Or are people just picking the wrong program?

    I would have been Gym fit, (don't do sports but lift alot of weights) I used it to supplement my lack of Cardio, I have to say the sweat would usually be pouring out of me doing it. I did find it hard at the beginning, it definitely brought more intensity to my normal jogging or whatever.

    I think it works well for people that need a bit of structure and goal based get up and go!


  • #13
    Doug Cartel
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    Do You Even Squat wrote: »
    P90X and Insanity are made by 2 different people.

    As far as I know, they are both Beachbody products.


  • #14
    Candycakes
    Closed Accounts Posts: 42 ✭Candycakes


    I completed the 90 day insanity programme and it's tough going especially towards the end as the workouts are just under an hour I found it excellent my fitness level was unreal after it
    Sean T can b abir cringy at times but the workout is brilliant u will b dripping with sweat after
    The only thing it's severe on joints and knees as there is a lot of jumping involved so do it on a mat if possible
    The follow up workout I think it's called T25 is also very good... Enjoy x


  • #15
    arayess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭arayess


    Do You Even Squat wrote: »
    P90X and Insanity are made by 2 different people. However, they share one common factor. They're both 100% bullshít. They're both severely misleading. They trick those who are uneducated with regards to fitness by using lofty, hyperbolic buzz words and are completely disingenuous. I dont look at this forum often but the only legit source that I know for advice on fitness and weight lifting would be either starting strength.com or the stickies from the fora on bodybuilding.com. Please dont waste time and money on this shít.

    please can you explain your claims in terms of the insanity workout?

    what is wrong with it? 100% bull**** is a strong claim. So they've no redeeming factors?

    In terms of getting people fitter , i see no fault with it.

    As somebody who only uses starting strength and bodybuilding.com then I can see who something that doesn't fit that narrative would be heresy to you.

    Well , guess what not everybody likes the same method of exercise. There are many ways to get fit - bodybuilding.com doesn't hold the monopoly on that .

    I know two people who did insanity and they both lost weight and felt a lot better as a result.


  • #16
    Transform
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,394 ✭✭✭Transform


    arayess wrote: »
    please can you explain your claims in terms of the insanity workout?

    what is wrong with it? 100% bull**** is a strong claim. So they've no redeeming factors?

    In terms of getting people fitter , i see no fault with it.

    As somebody who only uses starting strength and bodybuilding.com then I can see who something that doesn't fit that narrative would be heresy to you.

    Well , guess what not everybody likes the same method of exercise. There are many ways to get fit - bodybuilding.com doesn't hold the monopoly on that .

    I know two people who did insanity and they both lost weight and felt a lot better as a result.
    i know two people that did mobility work for 10mins, did some strength work for 20mins, finished with a metcon/conditioning that wasn't too crazy, sorted their flippin diet out and lost a ton of weight and felt a lot better as a result

    P90x, insanity etc are not training programs - they're a list of random exercises done in a random manner that never take into account mobility issues and many many other factors.

    But hey the worst designed program done with incredible intensity will ALWAYS produce results

    I really need to get my finger out and do a series of videos for boards that people could get going on that are more structured than the likes of insanity and p90x, the mobility stuff is covered here if yall want to check the tests - http://www.dominicmunnelly.ie/2013/01/4-mobility-tests-to-reduce-risk-of-injury/


  • #17
    Mellor
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    Do You Even Squat wrote: »
    P90X and Insanity are made by 2 different people.
    Made by the same people
    However, they share one common factor. They're both 100% bullshít. They're both severely misleading. They trick those who are uneducated with regards to fitness by using lofty, hyperbolic buzz words and are completely disingenuous.
    I don't think they are any use at all, I'd never recommend them to anyone. But I don't think they are any more misleading that any other fitness product. They are all selling something.

    You you go from sitting on the sofa to jumping about the living room for an hour, after a few weeks you'll be better at jumping around the living room.
    That's all I see when I look at those products, and that's all I think you'll get.
    I dont look at this forum often but the only legit source that I know for advice on fitness and weight lifting would be either starting strength.com or the stickies from the fora on bodybuilding.com. Please dont waste time and money on this shít.
    BB.com varied from good advise to really awful stuff.
    Equally good advice is available here if you can read between the lines.


  • #18
    IvoryTower
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    On the insanity thread there are a lot of people who have gotten great results from it from a fitness perspective. Like finding when they went back to their football, gaa etc they were flying fit. Would that not mean they're of some use?


  • #19
    Do You Even Squat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭Do You Even Squat


    Mellor wrote: »
    Made by the same people


    I don't think they are any use at all, I'd never recommend them to anyone. But I don't think they are any more misleading that any other fitness product. They are all selling something.

    You you go from sitting on the sofa to jumping about the living room for an hour, after a few weeks you'll be better at jumping around the living room.
    That's all I see when I look at those products, and that's all I think you'll get.


    BB.com varied from good advise to really awful stuff.
    Equally good advice is available here if you can read between the lines.
    The BB.com website is terrible itself for advice. One of its leading novice programmes is a PPL by Steve Cook for 12 weeks. Absolutely ridiculously bad. They trick beginners into buying hundreds of euro worth of supplements. The forum on BB.com are excellent. The stickies contain everything you need to know.


  • #20
    arayess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭arayess


    Transform wrote: »
    i know two people that did mobility work for 10mins, did some strength work for 20mins, finished with a metcon/conditioning that wasn't too crazy, sorted their flippin diet out and lost a ton of weight and felt a lot better as a result

    You are correct but I never claimed it was the ultimate (or best) training program , I've never done it myself cos i have other interests.
    I like lifting weights and I enjoy spinning classes and martial arts.

    Is my program and choice of cardio the best? probably not but I know its something I'll adhere too and get results from.
    So it works ..

    Same with insanity - if you want to lose weight it'll work or can work, I know diet pops into the equation.

    Some people like that craic. leave them at it.

    if they wanted your style of training they'd have sought you out to train them


  • #21
    Transform
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,394 ✭✭✭Transform


    arayess wrote: »
    You are correct but I never claimed it was the ultimate (or best) training program , I've never done it myself cos i have other interests.
    I like lifting weights and I enjoy spinning classes and martial arts.

    Is my program and choice of cardio the best? probably not but I know its something I'll adhere too and get results from.
    So it works ..

    Same with insanity - if you want to lose weight it'll work or can work, I know diet pops into the equation.

    Some people like that craic. leave them at it.

    if they wanted your style of training they'd have sought you out to train them
    yup totally agree and i train a few people now and again so yes plenty 'seeking out' my style of training


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