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staff tips after wedding

  • 02-06-2015 01:26PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 609 ✭✭✭


    What's the etiquette for tipping all the hotel team after a wedding reception?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,800 ✭✭✭Senna


    None required what so ever(assuming gratuity isn't in your contract), staff are paid for their work and do not need to rely on tips to supplement their income.
    I wouldn't give a tip to share either, as when its shared among 20/40 staff, it works out at nothing each.
    But if someone goes above and beyond or if you genuinely feel they have added to the pleasure of your day more than there payment covered, then by all means give them a tip, I'm sure it will be appreciated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 536 ✭✭✭nosietoes


    I worked a wedding at the weekend (as a chef) and the team was tipped €200 which ended up being €10 each plus a little left over towards staff party kitty. It's not much but it's a couple of post work pints, or an extra hour pay for some of the wait staff.

    It's the 3rd wedding I've worked, and the 1 st to tip but it was nice and appreciated tho not expected.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,302 ✭✭✭Gatica


    We gave around a 6% tip to the hotel for the staff that worked the wedding, how they divided among the waiting staff though, I've no idea...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Clearlier


    We gave about 10% but worth noting that the bill didn't include wine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 97 ✭✭Larrson


    Senna wrote: »
    None required what so ever(assuming gratuity isn't in your contract), staff are paid for their work and do not need to rely on tips to supplement their income.
    I wouldn't give a tip to share either, as when its shared among 20/40 staff, it works out at nothing each.
    But if someone goes above and beyond or if you genuinely feel they have added to the pleasure of your day more than there payment covered, then by all means give them a tip, I'm sure it will be appreciated.

    I really don't know what gives you the right to say Staff don't rely on Tips to Supplement their Income as I Certainly Do. As Nearly all Hotel Staff are on Minimum Wage and WORK BLOODY HARD FOR IT.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,090 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Larrson wrote: »
    I really don't know what gives you the right to say Staff don't rely on Tips to Supplement their Income as I Certainly Do. As Nearly all Hotel Staff are on Minimum Wage and WORK BLOODY HARD FOR IT.

    Minimum wage in Ireland is enough to live on . Not a flash living. But enough.

    This is different to some countries where the minimum wage is deliberately to low to live on, to ensure that the wait-staff do actually hustle.

    Here, tips are a nice to have. Personally I would only give them if staff really did go above and beyond what would usually be expected. I certainly wouldn't tip for just doing the job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,470 ✭✭✭pooch90


    We kept an eye on individual members of the serving/bar staff.
    Some really went above and beyond and we threw some of them €20, some €50 (the barman who did spins down to local B&Bs with guests).
    The staff at our venue were great though, the barman mentioned above featured in quite a few guest selfies!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 97 ✭✭Larrson


    Minimum wage in Ireland is enough to live on . Not a flash living. But enough.

    This is different to some countries where the minimum wage is deliberately to low to live on, to ensure that the wait-staff do actually hustle.

    Here, tips are a nice to have. Personally I would only give them if staff really did go above and beyond what would usually be expected. I certainly wouldn't tip for just doing the job.

    So Minimum wage is Enough to support My wife 3 kids and a Mortgage, Thanks for You Comments


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,385 ✭✭✭Preset No.3


    Larrson wrote: »
    So Minimum wage is Enough to support My wife 3 kids and a Mortgage, Thanks for You Comments

    Well it is your own doing that you choose to work in a low income job with a wife and 3 kids to support. How about you do something about your situation instead of giving out about it here?!

    We are not a tipping country. Its not expected but is a nice surprise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 97 ✭✭Larrson


    Well it is your own doing that you choose to work in a low income job with a wife and 3 kids to support. How about you do something about your situation instead of giving out about it here?!

    We are not a tipping country. Its not expected but is a nice surprise.

    So now I choose to work in LOW INCOME JOB Your post Contradicts the-very Question that was asked about Tipping, and believe me I have tried to get other jobs and done Courses and I have worked in the Construction industry most of my life , and by the way I was not giving out about it here I was just replying to a quote?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,066 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    Pretty much every restaurant in the country will do a four course meal for under €25. Want to bring 150 people? That'll be €75 a head so.

    They can afford to pay their staff well enough thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,297 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    Larrson wrote: »
    I really don't know what gives you the right to say Staff don't rely on Tips to Supplement their Income as I Certainly Do. As Nearly all Hotel Staff are on Minimum Wage and WORK BLOODY HARD FOR IT.
    Boohoo cry me a river, how many other people work for minimum wage that aren't in a position to get tips?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,297 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    Larrson wrote: »
    So now I choose to work in LOW INCOME JOB Your post Contradicts the-very Question that was asked about Tipping, and believe me I have tried to get other jobs and done Courses and I have worked in the Construction industry most of my life , and by the way I was not giving out about it here I was just replying to a quote?
    Well, if you want tips to supplement your income you obviously believe it yourself ;)


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,918 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    pooch90 wrote: »
    We kept an eye on individual members of the serving/bar staff.
    Some really went above and beyond and we threw some of them €20, some €50 (the barman who did spins down to local B&Bs with guests).
    The staff at our venue were great though, the barman mentioned above featured in quite a few guest selfies!!

    We did the same. The night porter got 200 from us, stayed up both the night of the wedding and the next and kept drink going and even made a few ham and cheese toasties, he gave us a last big order around 6am and he went off to bed or home maybe


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 978 ✭✭✭Fudge You


    Minimum wage in Ireland is enough to live on . Not a flash living. But enough.
    .


    Live where exactly???

    You must mean live with the parents, because minimum wage is not enough to live, even without flash.

    No one wants to stay on min wage, but to say its enough to live on is having a laugh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭zl1whqvjs75cdy


    I work for minimum wage but if you calculated my actual pay per hour it comes in at much lower than that. I survive with no possibility of tips, granted without kids. I don't think tips are necessary in the wedding scenario since your paying a small fortune for generally very mediocre food. If the hotels don't give the employees a bigger cut of the wedding action that's an issue between the hotel and the staff. Its not up to the newly weds to supplement the income of the staff unless one of them goes above and beyond like the porter mentioned previously.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 290 ✭✭The Dark Side


    Larrson wrote: »
    So Minimum wage is Enough to support My wife 3 kids and a Mortgage, Thanks for You Comments

    Of course not, your wife, 3 kids and mortgage should obviously be supported through our tips instead.:rolleyes:


  • Business & Finance Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 17,009 Mod ✭✭✭✭Toots


    Guys keep it on topic. The poster asked for info on the etiquette for tipping staff at the wedding venue, not for a debate about minimum wage jobs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 Omc1


    I would like to start off by saying that maybe some people may think the Irish minimum wage is enough to live on if you are indeed working full time. Just about live on.

    A very large percentage of hotel staff are on zero hour contracts. Meaning they aren't guaranteed hours each week and don't get paid when they don't work. Those that work at weddings are at risk of this. If there is no weddings or events on they don't work.

    They don't expect tips because Ireland isn't exactly a tipping country but when they do receive them they are very grateful to the tipper. The hotels do not pay their staff well, the tips that couples give to the hotel to go to the staff goes into either the hotels pocket or towards a stupid party that never happens.

    So those of you who say these staff members shouldn't get tips or they get paid well enough, read the above and then come back to me with a valid agrument.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 97 ✭✭Larrson


    Of course it's up to the Wedding Couple Whether or Not they Give or can Afford to Give a tip for the Staff, at our Hotel a good few do give tips for Staff which is Very Welcome, but I don't expect it from all wedding couples as I know it is very Expensive to get Married, But Staff can And do go the extra mile to make sure the Wedding is The Best that can be for The Wedding Couple and Guests.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 97 ✭✭Larrson


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    Well, if you want tips to supplement your income you obviously believe it yourself ;)
    Omc1 wrote: »
    I would like to start off by saying that maybe some people may think the Irish minimum wage is enough to live on if you are indeed working full time. Just about live on.

    A very large percentage of hotel staff are on zero hour contracts. Meaning they aren't guaranteed hours each week and don't get paid when they don't work. Those that work at weddings are at risk of this. If there is no weddings or events on they don't work.

    They don't expect tips because Ireland isn't exactly a tipping country but when they do receive them they are very grateful to the tipper. The hotels do not pay their staff well, the tips that couples give to the hotel to go to the staff goes into either the hotels pocket or towards a stupid party that never happens.

    So those of you who say these staff members shouldn't get tips or they get paid well enough, read the above and then come back to me with a valid agrument.
    That is So true.


  • Business & Finance Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 17,009 Mod ✭✭✭✭Toots


    Omc1 and Larrson, I'm not sure what part of "keep it on topic" is so difficult to understand. If either of you post anything else about minimum wage/living standards/anything else that's off topic you will get a 7 day ban from the forum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 97 ✭✭Larrson


    Sorry I thought my last post was on The Topic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,156 ✭✭✭daheff


    Personally I wouldnt tip at the wedding unless staff member goes above and beyond to the level that you really notice it. Dont go looking for superior service as it might disappoint you that you dont get it (or that you start noticing how bad service might be).

    Its your wedding, enjoy the day/night and should staff do excellent work that makes your /your guests time more enjoyable then by all means tip them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,565 ✭✭✭✭fits


    We've budgeted for a tip. Not anywhere near 10% though. More like 3-4%.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,127 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    We gave €600 in cash to two of the staff to distribute (never give it to just one person), but we did it relatively early on in the evening, so the drink was served all night and the second round of finger food arrived at 3am ;)

    Each staff member got probably €40 or 50. Far better value than a bar extension, I promise you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,090 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Remember that even if you give tips to individual staff, they most likely have employment contracts which say that all tips need to be put into the "pot" to be distributed among all the staff: a waiter may have been extra helpful, but his/her performance is strongly due to the (typically lower paid) back of house staff who you'd never see, and who don't get a chance for direct tips.

    If you really do want to tip an individual, make sure you do it out of sight of the other staff, and away from the CCTV.



    And if you want a debate about the adequacy of minimum wage, come on over to Work and Jobs. But be aware that we'll rapidly educate you about Child Benefit, FIS and council housing. Or try Politics, if you want to wax more philosophically about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,946 ✭✭✭✭Neyite


    I've worked in hotels where the manager was given the tips from a large group or function and trousered the lot. Other places it was added to the staff kitty - problem is that a lot of the staff were keeping their own tips and taking a cut of the kitty when the time came.

    I've never expected a tip from functions, especially since service charge was usually built in to the price, but it was very much appreciated on the rare occasion that I did get one.

    Giving a tip to a mixed group of staff -waiting staff plus bar staff and porters ensures it gets shared by all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,800 ✭✭✭Senna


    Larrson wrote: »
    I really don't know what gives you the right to say Staff don't rely on Tips to Supplement their Income as I Certainly Do. As Nearly all Hotel Staff are on Minimum Wage and WORK BLOODY HARD FOR IT.

    I started working in hotels as a floor boy when I was 15. I worked my way up and I now manage a very busy hotel, that might give me some right to voice my opinions, but of course you are welcome to your own too. I don't believe in blanket tipping, tips should go to who deserves it.

    I love to see hard working staff get tips, the staff that get the most tips are always the staff that put in the most effort and it shows.
    If I'm given a tip and its not big enough to share out, I'll distribute it between the back of house staff, porters, chefs who regularly don't see anything but it doesn't mean they don't deserve a share. This is done as fairly as I can between everyone in the hotel.

    Give a tip surely, give it to the staff in person or if that's not possible, give it to your coordinator with a request that it goes to all staff who helped make your day.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,114 ✭✭✭Electric Sheep


    Larrson wrote: »
    So Minimum wage is Enough to support My wife 3 kids and a Mortgage, Thanks for You Comments

    Here's the thing - it is not the customer's job to pay extra for your non working wife and three kids.


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