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  • #8852
    Dawggone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    Forage maize planted on Friday last.


  • #8853
    Greengrass1
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    Timmaay wrote: »
    **** that, lucky escape. No concussion or anything?

    I've driven to and from greenfield in kk this morning so far and seen okay


  • #8854
    whelan2
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    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    I've driven to and from greenfield in kk this morning so far and seen okay
    you where lucky, my cow with mastitis died last night, gangrene set in in the quarter, she was the best milker at last milk recording-fook it


  • #8855
    Greengrass1
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    whelan2 wrote: »
    you where lucky, my cow with mastitis died last night, gangrene set in in the quarter, she was the best milker at last milk recording-fook it

    Hate stuff like that. Know a farmer who had 8 cows go down in tb test only 2 had leasions in factory mostof them very good milkers 35+ litres at the milk recording the week before


  • #8856
    td5man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,082 ✭✭✭td5man


    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Hate stuff like that. Know a farmer who had 8 cows go down in tb test only 2 had leasions in factory mostof them very good milkers 35+ litres at the milk recording the week before

    Try 52 and the dept couldn't find the results from the factory.


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  • #8857
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    td5man wrote: »
    Try 52 and the dept couldn't find the results from the factory.

    **** me that would depress me badly. how long were you without them before you could buy back in?


  • #8858
    td5man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,082 ✭✭✭td5man


    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    **** me that would depress me badly. how long were you without them before you could buy back in?

    Only back to original numbers this year after 6 years


  • #8859
    freedominacup
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    td5man wrote: »
    Only back to original numbers this year after 6 years

    It's unreal how long it takes to recover from a kicking like that. And that's just the numbers. The financial hit takes even longer. Main reason we went pedigree and breed more heifers than we'd ever need for normal replacement rates. Insurance of a sort. Better compensation for pedigrees and the chance of a faster recovery in numbers in the event of a breakdown. On a bad one like td5s the payments for the lost stock hardly covers the income loss.


  • #8860
    Greengrass1
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    td5man wrote: »
    Only back to original numbers this year after 6 years

    similar enough herr but nit from tb. Arrived 11 yrs ago with 55 milkers and 20 maidens. Milked 70 following yr and staf aurus hit was down to 25 in 3 yrs only this and last yr were really starting to properly increase cow numbers


  • #8861
    Timmaay
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    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    similar enough herr but nit from tb. Arrived 11 yrs ago with 55 milkers and 20 maidens. Milked 70 following yr and staf aurus hit was down to 25 in 3 yrs only this and last yr were really starting to properly increase cow numbers

    This isn't as bad as either you or td5, but a bull firing blanks here wasn't long knocking around 80kl of milk off the bottom line back in 2010, alongside plenty of cows getting prematurely culled. Combined with only 2 heifers making it into the herd the following year. Fair kick in the teeth after the hammering that we took with the price in 2009, only saving grace were most loans paid off so little borrowings. Always a potential disaster around the corner when you are dairying, the main thing is ya live to tell the tail.


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  • #8862
    Wildsurfer
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    Timmaay wrote: »
    This isn't as bad as either you or td5, but a bull firing blanks here wasn't long knocking around 80kl of milk off the bottom line back in 2010, alongside plenty of cows getting prematurely culled. Combined with only 2 heifers making it into the herd the following year. Fair kick in the teeth after the hammering that we took with the price in 2009, only saving grace were most loans paid off so little borrowings. Always a potential disaster around the corner when you are dairying, the main thing is ya live to tell the tail.

    Ok that's made up my mind. Defo continuing to AI the cows even when the bull goes in!


  • #8863
    Milked out
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭Milked out


    Was covering g the pit this evening and glanced down towards the cows to see was there any bulling going on and I spotted a car parked on the road by the field. Some lad was after hopping the wire and walking in to the field to take pics of the cows. now I don't really care so much but there is a 32 month old vasectomised bull in with the cows and if the mood took him and he went for yer man twud have been all over. Dunno who this guy was prob a tourist but you'd think most would have the cop on not to hop a fence In to field of animals or even the decency to stay on the road if they wanted to get pics.


  • #8864
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    td5man wrote: »
    Try 52 and the dept couldn't find the results from the factory.
    :eek:

    You just scared the lining bejaysus out of me. The neighbours are just locked up with TB after 2 cows went down. I am now surrounded by locked up herds:(

    I suppose it's only a matter of time now:o:o:o


  • #8865
    awaywithyou
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    Buford T. Justice V wrote: »
    :eek:

    You just scared the lining bejaysus out of me. The neighbours are just locked up with TB after 2 cows went down. I am now surrounded by locked up herds:(

    I suppose it's only a matter of time now:o:o:o


    whereabouts is that BTJ?? i i know down towards kilmoyley... there is a heap of herds around each other and all locked up


  • #8866
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    awaywithyou wrote: »
    whereabouts is that BTJ?? i i know down towards kilmoyley... there is a heap of herds around each other and all locked up
    Not all locked up, just me still free:D

    I will probably have a dept vet for my herd test as well this year, if i survive till August without a dept test.

    One guy locked up over a year and passed his second clear test and they still aren't allowing him to sell:mad:. That would drive me insane.


  • #8867
    mahoney_j
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,718 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Left megafat out of last load of nuts delivered a week ago today .now on 16% hi maize yesterdays test result 3.62 fat 3.50 p lactose 5.05 urea 26.fat dropped 0.18% from test date 20/5.happy now in my own mind the megafat has worked even at 20 euro extra per tonne,fat will probably now go close or possibly lower than p now .possibly should of left it in as grass is more or less where I want it now with paddocks baled and one more paddock as of today skipped.feeding rate ,3 kg base to do 26 kg milk 0.35 for every kg over that to 8 kg max.yield 31.5 Ltrs .


  • #8868
    kevthegaff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Left megafat out of last load of nuts delivered a week ago today .now on 16% hi maize yesterdays test result 3.62 fat 3.50 p lactose 5.05 urea 26.fat dropped 0.18% from test date 20/5.happy now in my own mind the megafat has worked even at 20 euro extra per tonne,fat will probably now go close or possibly lower than p now .possibly should of left it in as grass is more or less where I want it now with paddocks baled and one more paddock as of today skipped.feeding rate ,3 kg base to do 26 kg milk 0.35 for every kg over that to 8 kg max.yield 31.5 Ltrs .
    Fat at 3.71 pr 3.51, urea 43.8, l 4.92 avg yield 26.9. Urea is very high any concern?


  • #8869
    Dawggone
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    kevthegaff wrote: »
    Fat at 3.71 pr 3.51, urea 43.8, l 4.92 avg yield 26.9. Urea is very high any concern?

    Yes. I would be concerned about milk urea. Too much blood urea may kill young foetus's. Try and keep milk urea under 38.

    Just my tuppence worth...


  • #8870
    whelan2
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    why is it so high?


  • #8871
    trixi2011
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    Are you feeding a high protein nut ?


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  • #8872
    mf240
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    kevthegaff wrote: »
    Fat at 3.71 pr 3.51, urea 43.8, l 4.92 avg yield 26.9. Urea is very high any concern?

    Prob a lot of nitrogen in grass.

    Its not the most reliabe test imo seems to vary a lot here.


  • #8873
    mahoney_j
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,718 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    kevthegaff wrote: »
    Fat at 3.71 pr 3.51, urea 43.8, l 4.92 avg yield 26.9. Urea is very high any concern?

    Are ur results consistent Kev??,mine are all over the place ranging from 16 to 40 over last month,not at all convinced test is accurate in our coop.as dwag correctly said high urea levels can cause early embryonic death,are u having many repeats??.its is a very useful test if results are accurate


  • #8874
    Dawggone
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    mf240 wrote: »
    Prob a lot of nitrogen in grass.

    Its not the most reliabe test imo seems to vary a lot here.

    I live by it.
    Of course it varies a lot because the diet is not consistent.
    At this stage I get a bit of craic out of predicting it!


  • #8875
    kevthegaff
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    Dawggone wrote: »
    I live by it.
    Of course it varies a lot because the diet is not consistent.
    At this stage I get a bit of craic out of predicting it!
    im only going with compounds, prob not enough nitrogen! Improving indexes. Not many repeats, varying from 27 upto 40. 16% nut cows in super condition should i reduce protein?


  • #8876
    Dawggone
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    kevthegaff wrote: »
    im only going with compounds, prob not enough nitrogen! Improving indexes. Not many repeats, varying from 27 upto 40. 16% nut cows in super condition should i reduce protein?

    12% would be a safer bet...imo.


  • #8877
    tanko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,439 ✭✭✭tanko


    Saw a Dale Farm milk lorry heading towards Virginia today, would he be heading to Glanbia?


  • #8878
    Timmaay
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    I'd say 16% an utter waste on a grass diet, on 2kg 12% high energy and milking well, 26l, 3.8bf 3.5p. From what I've read up, Ignore urea after the bulk of the cows served and weather settled.


  • #8879
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    Anyone going to do cows with eprinex /eprizero this yr?
    Wasnt going to do ours for another week or 2 but dad got it yesterday so did them last night.
    be interesting to see if I get any milk back


  • #8880
    Timmaay
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    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Anyone going to do cows with eprinex /eprizero this yr?
    Wasnt going to do ours for another week or 2 but dad got it yesterday so did them last night.
    be interesting to see if I get any milk back

    Bottle full of it here but been too lazy to put it on yet.


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  • #8881
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    Timmaay wrote: »
    Bottle full of it here but been too lazy to put it on yet.

    Getting a selection of herd weighed next week. I reckon most of heifers are 500 kg. Few at 520.
    Most ciws at 570 snd reckon I've a few up at 600


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