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Are STOWA expected shipping times accurate?
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03-04-2015 8:55pm#1
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Aye I'd agree FW. IF anything it really illustrates how over inflated the new Swiss watch prices are. A few have worked out that going on pre Swatch group marketing and especially the price hikes since the mid 90's an Omega Speedmaster should be between 1500-2000 quid. Going on 70's prices adjusted for inflation/exchange rates/wages/etc they should be closer to 1200 quid. And they're what now? Four grand or thereabouts?fret_wimp2 wrote: »The usual "amazing value considering the price" is true but id say its way better than that. It could sit with watches in the 2k + region and not be out of place.
They were also much "cheaper to run" back in the day too. Now with the Swatch group and others limiting or cutting off parts supplies to third party watchmakers the costs of ownership keep climbing. And it seems people keep accepting this state of affairs. Many times I've read on forums like WUS when someone(rightfully IMH) bitches and moans about the service costs and the time it takes to turnaround their watch(months rather than weeks), they will get a load of fanboys attacking them for being silly, because that's what you buy into when you buy a "luxury brand" *haughty sniff*. Never mind that Omega were never a "luxury brand". They were an expensive enough, step above your no name Swiss and the like brand, a very solid and solidly made watch but Patek they were not. Now they're being aimed as an entry level Rolex. And Rolex prices climbed like a monkey on cocaine in sympathy. We're in the wrong business lads and lasses. No way in hell would you buy a car with that kind of shenanigans.
On a Hodinkee article in the comments I reckoned that's why Longines has been making a load of inroads over the last few years. They came from being very much on the back foot, to the third most popular brand in Asia and elsewhere. Bloggists give credit to their reissue of historic watches as a reason, but I reckon a fair chunk of it is down to the fact that they are pretty much the same "price/value" they were back in the day. They're inhabiting the TAG Heuer price point of yesteryear. That sweet spot of 1000-2000 quid for much of their range. The price they would have been in 1960, or 70, or 80. What your average man and woman on the street thinks of as a luxury expenditure. Stowa and others inhabit that area and lower too. With more advertising I reckon they could get even more traction in the market, especially with the Swiss Franc in the state it's in.
End of Sat nite rant.
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At least some of the problem is I think self inflicted. The watch world is bonkers. Let's be honest, there is actually very little difference between lots of watches from the bottom to the top of the market. An example of this is the 'fashion watch, ugh' attitude. Another is that watch/brand 'A' has better residuals that watch/brand 'B' argument (EG Rolex SS Sports models), where lots of buyers seem to have convinced themselves that they are actually saving money by buying Rolex. Related to the residuals argument is the fact that lots of people really hate it when the RRP of their watch is reduced. Clever brands restrict supply and keep putting their prices up just a bit every year. Steinhart are a classic example. Lovely watches IMHO but very clever in carefully controlling supply and keep putting prices up gradually. Watch collecting for many (not all of course
) is often compared to getting on the ladder, start with eg a Seiko and aspire to a Rolex, then an AP or a PP. Service prices and service times are part of the game and if they were too reasonable then people might ask questions about the real value of their watches. 0 -
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johnthemull wrote: »It sure is.....Upward movement!
Still they are great watches. Laco increased their prices by nearly a third a while back as well.
This watch addiction is not for the faint hearted:)
Makes it all the better of a hobby. You only appreciate something when you spend months on months saving up and waiting for the delivery
Got three nice heavy duty nato straps from crown and buckle there today too for the summer.0 -
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Was told that the company responsible for the faces or parts of the face will not be able to deliver this month as expected. Didn't think the wait would be this hard! 
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