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Not a NSA agent · 21-05-2015 04:47PM

LookingFor wrote: »

Hey Iona, what was that about 'freedom of conscience' again?

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/iona-institute-chair-criticises-catholics-calling-for-yes-vote-1.2221187

So, I guess, you're free to have a conscience about the constitution as long as its bound by "the Blessed Trinity and our obligations to Jesus Christ"?

Nice to see Iona also, finally, shake off any pretense of their objections not having anything to do with religion. People talk about the Yes side being sanctimonious, but this takes the cake.

He's right, lets change the preamble.

5starpool · 21-05-2015 04:50PM

Not a NSA agent wrote: »

He's right, lets change the preamble.

Full separation of church and state in this country, including schools would be a wonderful thing, but sadly I'd say it's a long way off.

SafeSurfer · 21-05-2015 04:50PM

Not a NSA agent wrote: »

He's right, lets change the preamble.

You'll be looking to get rid of the angelus next.

Zubeneschamali · 21-05-2015 04:51PM

LookingFor wrote: »

Nice to see Iona also, finally, shake off any pretense of their objections not having anything to do with religion.

I'd say David Quinn is tearing his hair out - after all these weeks and weeks pretending that it is all about children and mammies and daddies and surrogacy and adoption, this eejit comes out and says its about "turning away from God and his laws".

galljga1 · 21-05-2015 04:53PM

LookingFor wrote: »

Hey Iona, what was that about 'freedom of conscience' again?

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/iona-institute-chair-criticises-catholics-calling-for-yes-vote-1.2221187

So, I guess, you're free to have a conscience about the constitution as long as its bound by "the Blessed Trinity and our obligations to Jesus Christ"?

Nice to see Iona also, finally, shake off any pretense of their objections not having anything to do with religion. People talk about the Yes side being sanctimonious, but this takes the cake.

Actually the cake has nothing to do with it: different jurisdiction.

cloud493 · 21-05-2015 04:54PM

I don't feel bad about it personally Iona institute.

Nollog · 21-05-2015 04:55PM

Mr McCrystal said: “How can we, with integrity, write into our Constitution recognition for homosexual pairings, in a document that invokes the authority of the Blessed Trinity and our obligations to Jesus Christ in its preamble?”

Sounds like we have a candidate for the 36th amendment.

elekid · 21-05-2015 04:57PM

Scarinae wrote: »

How quickly do the results usually come in for a referendum? I can't remember how long it took for the last one

I'm dreading the wait for the result on Saturday, my stomach is already in knots - I have to find out if I'm allowed to marry my partner of 10 years or not by reading it on a news website

galljga1 · 21-05-2015 04:59PM

elekid wrote: »

I'm dreading the wait for the result on Saturday, my stomach is already in knots - I have to find out if I'm allowed to marry my partner of 10 years or not by reading it on a news website

Go out and get drunk, we can text you.

banquo · 21-05-2015 05:00PM

My grandmother, 83, is burying her husband tomorrow but making time to Vote Yes.

Am very proud of grandmother right now.

LookingFor · 21-05-2015 05:00PM

elekid wrote: »

I'm dreading the wait for the result on Saturday, my stomach is already in knots - I have to find out if I'm allowed to marry my partner of 10 years or not by reading it on a news website

It shouldn't be this way

Be strong.

To try and answer the question, a couple of hours after boxes open we might have an idea based on tallies of where things are going. This is just going by the live feeds from the children's referendum, though. One lesson from that is to beware jumping to any conclusions based on tallies from the first boxes, or small sets of boxes - in the childrens ref case they were wildly off from the final result.

CiDeRmAn · 21-05-2015 05:08PM

I will despair this country if they fail to succeed to bring in SSM tomorrow.
I'm straight but have friends and colleagues who should have the same chance as I have to be happy, and to be ordered to put up shelves and clean the attic out on my day off...

CiDeRmAn · 21-05-2015 05:10PM

I suppose for the No side its a bit like in the movie Armageddon, to see if against the odds their plucky team of ignorant rednecks have saved the day and avoided the end of christian civilisation as they know it.

c_man · 21-05-2015 05:14PM

BlitzKrieg wrote: »

http://cf.broadsheet.ie/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/CFhonjfWYAESNJa.jpg

Yeah I hear the scrapping of the bottom of the barrel here for decency.

Ah ffs, let's keep Santa out of this :mad:

Tony91 · 21-05-2015 05:21PM

I've been emotional drained this last week. I just want Saturday to be here and to know. I hope it's a YES vote, I truly do!!!

lizzyman · 21-05-2015 05:21PM

5starpool wrote: »

Full separation of church and state in this country, including schools would be a wonderful thing, but sadly I'd say it's a long way off.

We'll take another step in the right direction tomorrow. Stopping our kids being indoctrinated with religious horseshít in schools is the next step.

Merces · 21-05-2015 05:25PM

c_man wrote: »

Ah ffs, let's keep Santa out of this :mad:

Manipulative tripe. More likely the kid will be asking Santa for rational parents, rather than religious nut jobs.

Lollipop95 · 21-05-2015 05:32PM

I'm straight but I'll also despair at this country if the 'Yes' vote doesn't pass. It'll prove that a hell of a lot of Irish people are still stuck in the dark ages and that Ireland is still "backward" when it comes to SSM. What's the big deal? It's ridiculous that there's a referendum in the first place. Equality is equality. The reason I feel so passionately about this is I have 2 male friends who are gay and I know they'll be upset if this doesn't pass.

One of them is over in another country at the moment so can't vote so I'll guess I'll vote on his behalf!

lizzyman · 21-05-2015 05:38PM

LookingFor wrote: »

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/iona-institute-chair-criticises-catholics-calling-for-yes-vote-1.2221187

"Premarital acts, extramarital acts, heterosexual, homosexual, solitary acts or with others - all seriously jeopardise the eternal welfare God created us for, to enjoy with him in heaven"

Lololol

No eternal welfare for me then. Or anyone else in the country.

GCU Flexible Demeanour · 21-05-2015 05:40PM

endacl wrote: »

http://www.factmonster.com/ipka/A0934288.html

There are an estimated 5416 distinct species of mammal. A minority sample of one (over populated) example getting married probably won't hit the numbers too badly. I think evolution will muddle along just fine.

:rolleyes:

Yes, indeed, it's still operating. I haven't quite decided whether we're looking at a meme, or developments in our extended phenotype.

traprunner · 21-05-2015 05:42PM

I got disheartened down the St Stephens end of grafton street. 4 or 5 street entertainers there. Sorry I meant No campaigners.

Then I went down Henry street. When I came back up there was a Love Choir entertaining dozens of people at a time. Almost everyone walking by was smiling. I felt everything will be alright tomorrow. Yes will win.

Fat Christy · 21-05-2015 05:43PM

Lollipop95 wrote: »

I'm straight but I'll also despair at this country if the 'Yes' vote doesn't pass. It'll prove that a hell of a lot of Irish people are still stuck in the dark ages and that Ireland is still "backward" when it comes to SSM. What's the big deal? It's ridiculous that there's a referendum in the first place. Equality is equality. The reason I feel so passionately about this is I have 2 male friends who are gay and I know they'll be upset if this doesn't pass.

One of them is over in another country at the moment so can't vote so I'll guess I'll vote on his behalf!

Are you me? 2 male gay friends...one in a different country. And a cousin who came out at Xmas but half the family still don't know because he's terrified of telling them.

BlitzKrieg · 21-05-2015 05:46PM

mothers and fathers facebook (Iona with a smile) have resorted to the Daily Mail with the following article

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3071048/Gagging-mother-forced-hand-baby-daughter-gay-dad.html

of course its a red herring on the whole issue again has nothing to do with gay marriage cause even though this all occurred in the uk, I'll quote from the official ruling this key point

The issue of parental responsibility in respect of B remains contentious; he is not M's legal father, for the purpose of s4 CA 1989, or her step-parent, as he and H are not married nor in a civil partnership.

http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWFC/HCJ/2015/36.html

marienbad · 21-05-2015 05:47PM

lizzyman wrote: »

"Premarital acts, extramarital acts, heterosexual, homosexual, solitary acts or with others - all seriously jeopardise the eternal welfare God created us for, to enjoy with him in heaven"

Lololol

No eternal welfare for me then. Or anyone else in the country.

How do educated men and women believe this ? That is what I can't get my head round . Hundreds of families go homeless and that's ok , hundreds of 16 year old boys rub one out tonight and God abandons the country !

Zen65 · 21-05-2015 05:54PM

c_man wrote: »

Ah ffs, let's keep Santa out of this :mad:

Would a child with two dads be visited by two Santas?

Not a NSA agent · 21-05-2015 05:58PM

Zen65 wrote: »

Would a child with two dads be visited by two Santas?

No, they are visited by satan and he turns the child gay.

I do like the letter, the only child who isnt an asshole has 2 mothers.

Duffy the Vampire Slayer · 21-05-2015 05:59PM

osarusan wrote: »

It means that people stopped betting on a NO victory at 3-1, and Paddy Power had to lengthen the price to get them to bet again.

This was dicussed in the Atheism and Agnosticism thread on the referendum, several posters claimed that's not how bookies operate anymore. I haven't a clue about it myself but they said that odds more accurately reflect the chances these days.

getzls · 21-05-2015 06:00PM

Paddy Power going 1/10 for a yes vote.
Looks done and dusted.

BoJack Horseman · 21-05-2015 06:05PM

getzls wrote: »

Paddy Power going 1/10 for a yes vote.
Looks done and dusted.

'No' had tightened in to 9/2 but has gone back out to 5/1.

I feel that the 'Yes' vote has not only remained largely intact, but is firm in conviction.

I've never missed the opportunity to cast a vote since I was 18, but I've never looked forward to casting my vote as much as tomorrow.

'Yes' will carry the day by 75% - 25%.
The vote will get out & it will be a great day!

road_high · 21-05-2015 06:10PM

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

'No' had tightened in to 9/2 but has gone back out to 5/1.

I feel that the 'Yes' vote has not only remained largely intact, but is firm in conviction.

I've never missed the opportunity to cast a vote since I was 18, but I've never looked forward to casting my vote as much as tomorrow.

'Yes' will carry the day by 75% - 25%.
The vote will get out & it will be a great day!

Hope you're right. Weather meant to be good which will help turnout.

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