Sisters beaten up, held hostage by two men they "met" on Facebook

the evasion_kid · 18-05-2015 06:49PM

wakka12 wrote: »

I don't get why two pretty young girls would do this because they probably have plenty of guys living around them who would be interested in them, and who they know aren't thugs. So why would they go out of their way to meet two complete strangers and go through the trouble of travelling to meet them even? Like were they that exceptional that they deserved this attention, I strongly doubt it given what they're capable of..

Probably go for the bad boy type

silverfeather · 18-05-2015 06:51PM

We should all delete facebook right now.

Stheno · 18-05-2015 06:59PM

If the man who brought them to hospital picked them up outside the apartment as was reported surely the men can be found?

Roger_007 · 18-05-2015 07:02PM

This whole story is a bundle of lies. Everything about it is implausible. The proof of this will be the fact that in a couple of days it will be quietly dropped by the media and the Gardai.
If the account of the girls was true, it would make the international news for weeks. The fact that it hasn't even made the RTE news means that nobody really believes it.

Carlos Orange · 18-05-2015 07:05PM

Stheno wrote: »

If the man who brought them to hospital picked them up outside the apartment as was reported surely the men can be found?

They don't know who the man who picked them up is. That seems a little strange. As does the fact he bought them to Tallaght Hospital. That is hardly the closest hospital to Newbridge.

Stheno · 18-05-2015 07:06PM

psinno wrote: »

They don't know who the man who picked them up is. That seems a little strange. As does the fact he bought them to Tallaght Hospital. That is hardly the closest hospital to Newbridge.

Ah.

Why would he not take them to naas?

The plot thickens

bjork · 18-05-2015 07:28PM

.................The scene at Frances Lane was preserved and technically examined.............

The women received a lift on Friday afternoon from a man driving an orange coloured car in Newbridge to Tallaght Hospital.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/dublin-women-tied-beaten-meeting-men-facebook-154830505.html#TQCBAQA

Extra info?

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/republic-of-ireland/sisters-beaten-up-and-held-hostage-by-men-they-met-on-facebook-31231169.html

The sisters, who were covered in blood, ran out of the apartment and flagged down a man who was driving by with two children. He brought them straight to hospital.

The sisters believe they may have been drugged on the night of their ordeal.

nokia69 · 18-05-2015 07:28PM

Stheno wrote: »

If the man who brought them to hospital picked them up outside the apartment as was reported surely the men can be found?

and IF the whole thing was set up on Facebook then it should be easy to find the men

18-05-2015 07:29PM

mikom wrote: »

Paul Smyth Wow my cock is hard looking at this u are beautiful text me inbox
8 May at 03:44

Earthy, like James Joyce.

Smidge · 18-05-2015 07:35PM

One of the guys who put a comment of that pic of her has a daughter a few years younger.

As for taking them to Tallaght hospital?
My thoughts are that A: It would be nearer to their home or B: He was going in that direction.

JeffK88 · 18-05-2015 07:35PM

As judge Judy says, if it doesn't make sense it more than likely is not true

anvilfour · 18-05-2015 07:38PM

JeffK88 wrote: »

As judge Judy says, if it doesn't make sense it more than likely is not true

I believe her exact words were, "Don't pee on my leg, then tell me it's raining."

JeffK88 · 18-05-2015 07:40PM

I stand corrected:rolleyes:

RDM_83 again · 18-05-2015 08:00PM

silverfeather wrote: »

That would be tragic also.

No they did not beat themselves up. I think a little compassion would not go amiss. It's missing in this thread.

Its harsh but people get lumps knocked out of them all the time, what these people don't do is make up a weird false story about strange men kidnapping them while posing for the media, stuff like this makes people doubt people that are actual victims of sexual assaults etc, they deserve sympathy for being attacked, they loose that sympathy when they carry on in a manner that will cause genuine victims harm.

I'l close my account (yes I know not much of threat :P ) if this story is in anyway close to what was reported.

Smidge · 18-05-2015 08:06PM

RDM_83 again wrote: »

Its harsh but people get lumps knocked out of them all the time, what these people don't do is make up a weird false story about strange men kidnapping them while posing for the media, stuff like this makes people doubt people that are actual victims of sexual assaults etc, they deserve sympathy for being attacked, they loose that sympathy when they carry on in a manner that will cause genuine victims harm.

I'l close my account (yes I know not much of threat :P ) if this story is in anyway close to what was reported.

So what you are saying is they made the whole thing up and beat themselves up?
Riiiiiiiiight.

bucketybuck · 18-05-2015 08:12PM

Smidge wrote: »

So what you are saying is they made the whole thing up and beat themselves up?
Riiiiiiiiight.

He never said that they beat themselves up, and the part you bolded does not say that they beat themselves up.

Carlos Orange · 18-05-2015 08:13PM

bucketybuck wrote: »

He never said that they beat themselves up, and the part you bolded does not say that they beat themselves up.

Even more he said they deserve sympathy for being attacked

Smidge · 18-05-2015 08:15PM

bucketybuck wrote: »

He never said that they beat themselves up, and the part you bolded does not say that they beat themselves up.

He said they made the whole thing up about the men beating them up.
But I'm sure he doesnt need you to answer for him

bucketybuck · 18-05-2015 08:16PM

Smidge wrote: »

He said they made the whole thing up about the men beating them up.

No, he did not.

Smidge · 18-05-2015 08:17PM

psinno wrote: »

Even more he said they deserve sympathy for being attacked

Thats not what was said, he said they deserve LESS sympathy than genuine victims.
I was just wondering what insight he has that he can say these girls were not genuine victims.

Smidge · 18-05-2015 08:19PM

bucketybuck wrote: »

No, he did not.

Okay then....................................

*given it was the bit you took initial umbridge with but okay* :rolleyes:

Anyway, back on topic.
NO-ONE knows what happened so victim blaming is really poor form.

Electric Sheep · 18-05-2015 08:27PM

pablo128 wrote: »

Check out their surname. Then think of any dodgy people from Tallaght with the same surname.;)

Then think about how the attacker's demeanour suddenly changed, and he started raving about having been in jail.

Chloris · 18-05-2015 08:33PM

Can I just interject and ask why on earth people think it's fake?

Carlos Orange · 18-05-2015 08:33PM

Smidge wrote: »

Thats not what was said, he said they deserve LESS sympathy than genuine victims.
I was just wondering what insight he has that he can say these girls were not genuine victims.

The words I used after he said are letter for letter an exact quotation but we will agree to disagree.

Lando Griffin · 18-05-2015 08:41PM

They were told not to contact the Gardai. They somehow have managed not only get the Gardai's attention but every media outletboth north and south of the border.
Left screaming covered in blood. Picked up by a man in Orange car with two children and drove straight to hospital.
If I personally was driving through a town with my children and two girls were distressed I don't know would I be too quick letting them in my car with my children and the five of us up to Dublin and drop them off at the door. Not with serious head injuries anyway , I would be more inclined to call an ambulance.
Hope the girls make a full recovery but like a lot of people I suspect there is a lot more to the story.

Stheno · 18-05-2015 08:41PM

Chloris wrote: »

Can I just interject and ask why on earth people think it's fake?

Do you not think it sounds a bit ott?

Talking about holes in the mountains, being picked up and brought to tallaght instead of naas etc?

Oryx · 18-05-2015 09:02PM

Chloris wrote: »

Can I just interject and ask why on earth people think it's fake?

I dont think its fake. I think the reason given for what happened to them is fake. I think the details of how it happened is fake. But they definitely got the crud beaten out of them for some reason and they didnt deserve that

ahnowbrowncow · 18-05-2015 09:08PM

I'm guessing they know the person who did it hence why they've made up this dodgy story because for some reason they don't want that person getting in trouble.

Smidge · 18-05-2015 09:16PM

Oryx wrote: »

I dont think its fake. I think the reason given for what happened to them is fake. I think the details of how it happened is fake. But they definitely got the crud beaten out of them for some reason and they didnt deserve that

I'm curious as to why they would do this though.
Say what you have above is what happened, why go to the bother of getting the media involved?
I mean, its clear someone beat them up but if not the guys in the apartment, why bother going so far with it? I mean, they may be foolish/naive/dim whatever you want to call it but I dont for one second think they themselves reckon they could get away with such a tall tale.

They didnt have to say anything to anybody. They wouldnt be the first busted up girl walking around(black eyes seem to be everywhere I look lately). Nobody really asks question any more and its almost de rigour. Lets face it, it wont be the scandal of the parish.

So why?
It would only bring them negative attention for this story NOT to be true.

I think people just dont want to believe it to be true.
For me, it sounds more fishy for it to be something else than what they said happened. Lots of bad eggs out there who just like beating women up for the giggles and thrills sadly.

Smidge · 18-05-2015 09:18PM

ahnowbrowncow wrote: »

I'm guessing they know the person who did it hence why they've made up this dodgy story because for some reason they don't want that person getting in trouble.

Hell of a lot of work to go to when they could have just as easily said and did nothing and there would never have been a thing know about it if indeed they knew the person.
This way its just drawing more attention to it.

Sisters beaten up, held hostage by two men they "met" on Facebook

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