Animals recognized as sentient beings in Australia!

silverfeather · 17-05-2015 07:38PM #1

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/animals-are-now-legally-recognised-as-sentient-beings-in-australia-10256006.html

YEAH Aussies!

It was also recognized in France in Jan. Personally i would welcome a universal declaration. France and oz recognized animals as sentient beings with feelings rather than furniture. New Zealand did a few days ago too.

When will Ireland follow? It's about time we did! Buddhism recognizes this.

How can we get our country to take notice???

This concept is central to the philosophy of animals rights. And we all know how badly this are protected here! It would be a big step in the right direction!

17-05-2015 07:50PM

It's not "Austrailia", it's "Australia".

Oh, and it's not Australia, it's New Zealand.

Just saying.

Off now for some roast chicken for the dinner. Cheers. :P

silverfeather · 17-05-2015 07:52PM

Deleted User wrote: »

It's not "Austrailia", it's "Australia".

Oh, and it's not Australia, it's New Zealand.

Just saying.

Off now for some roast chicken for the dinner. Cheers. :P

No Australia just recognized it too!

Read the article.

New Zealand did it six days ago and now a few hrs ago Australia did it!:rolleyes:

silverfeather · 17-05-2015 07:52PM

France did it too in Jan!

silverfeather · 17-05-2015 07:54PM

COME ON IRELAND WE CAN DO IT!

17-05-2015 07:56PM

silverfeather wrote: »

No Australia just recognized it too!

Read the article.

New Zealand did it six days ago and now a few hrs ago Australia did it!:rolleyes:

Roast chicken. Nom nom. :P

Amirani · 17-05-2015 07:58PM

Animal Welfare Act 1999 wrote:

animal—
(a)means any live member of the animal kingdom that is—
(i)a mammal; or
(ii)a bird; or
(iii)a reptile; or
(iv)an amphibian; or
(v)a fish (bony or cartilaginous); or
(vi)any octopus, squid, crab, lobster, or crayfish (including freshwater crayfish); or
(vii)any other member of the animal kingdom which is declared from time to time by the Governor-General, by Order in Council, to be an animal for the purposes of this Act; and
(b)includes any mammalian foetus, or any avian or reptilian pre-hatched young, that is in the last half of its period of gestation or development; and
(c)includes any marsupial pouch young;

Seems a bit incorrect to class some of the above as sentient.

17-05-2015 07:58PM

Diego Simeone wrote: »

Seems a bit incorrect to class some of the above as sentient.

Especially in Austraiiiiiilia.

Yellowblackbird · 17-05-2015 08:02PM

There's also the animals that talk in cartoons.
They're very sentiental. If anyone is they are.

RaRaRasputin · 17-05-2015 08:02PM

I actually can't believe that animals would have been denied this status for so long. It's actually just embarrassing for mankind.

silverfeather · 17-05-2015 08:03PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Especially in Austraiiiiiilia.

It was a typo don't be an ass.:rolleyes:

Amirani · 17-05-2015 08:04PM

RaRaRasputin wrote: »

I actually can't believe that animals would have been denied this status for so long. It's actually just embarrassing for mankind.

Denied what status? The status that they're capable of subjective thought?

I agree that that is indeed the case for some animals, but not all that are classified in the bill I linked. This should not be a prerequisite for basic animal rights though.

timetogo · 17-05-2015 08:04PM

Well there's our next referendum sorted.

silverfeather · 17-05-2015 08:05PM

timetogo wrote: »

Well there's our next referendum sorted.

We don't need one they can just LEGISLATE ALREADY!

timetogo · 17-05-2015 08:12PM

silverfeather wrote: »

We don't need one they can just LEGISLATE ALREADY!

Does humour just fly over your head?

17-05-2015 08:13PM

silverfeather wrote: »

It was a typo don't be an ass.:rolleyes:

No it wasn't, it was an error by the journalist, compounded by another error of yours. Don't be lazy and unthinking.

And don't be cruel to donkeys, either. You'll only hurt their feelings.

silverfeather · 17-05-2015 08:15PM

Deleted User wrote: »

No it wasn't, it was an error by the journalist, compounded by another error of yours. Don't be lazy and unthinking.

And don't be cruel to donkeys, either. You'll only hurt their feelings.

I hope you choke on that chicken! :mad:

Not modding ...but you don't have to post here if you don't want to. Hint hint...

silverfeather · 17-05-2015 08:15PM

Deleted User wrote: »

No it wasn't, it was an error by the journalist, compounded by another error of yours. Don't be lazy and unthinking.

And don't be cruel to donkeys, either. You'll only hurt their feelings.

I hate you!

silverfeather · 17-05-2015 08:16PM

By the way nice try but no one believes you have read Ulysses!

FluffyAngel · 17-05-2015 08:20PM

Don't think the farming/ slaughter community's would agree with the decree

We have a way of treating animals in Ireland that is beyond cruelty ..
I have a dog that could show a few humans about compassion to our fellow beings ..

Mind you the cat next door doesn't see it ..

Caught on film: pig bloodbath probed by PAC http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/caught-on-film-pig-bloodbath-probed-by-pac-31228638.html

17-05-2015 08:23PM

Of course they are sentient.

It's what separates them from vegetables. They understand pain and deprivation, comfort and warmth etc.

silverfeather · 17-05-2015 08:24PM

FluffyAngel wrote: »

Don't think the farming/ slaughter community's would agree with the decree

We have a way of treating animals in Ireland that is beyond cruelty ..
I have a dog that could show a few humans about compassion to our fellow beings ..

Mind you the cat next door doesn't see it ..

Caught on film: pig bloodbath probed by PAC http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/caught-on-film-pig-bloodbath-probed-by-pac-31228638.html

Dep of Ag has a LOT to answer for ! That is shocking the man should not be allowed to farm any more.

silverfeather · 17-05-2015 08:24PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Of course they are sentient.

It's what separates them from vegetables. They understand pain and deprivation, comfort and warmth etc.

You have changed your tune about time welcome aboard!:)

RaRaRasputin · 17-05-2015 08:24PM

Diego Simeone wrote: »

Denied what status? The status that they're capable of subjective thought?

I agree that that is indeed the case for some animals, but not all that are classified in the bill I linked. This should not be a prerequisite for basic animal rights though.

The acknowledgement that they can feel seems to be novum here, so yes, I think this is quite overdue.

silverfeather · 17-05-2015 08:26PM

RaRaRasputin wrote: »

The acknowledgement that they can feel seems to be novum here, so yes, I think this is quite overdue.

I think it would help in getting animal testing for cosmetics banned. It's frivolous to say the least that it goes on. I never buy products that have been tested this way I know many others don't either.

the_syco · 17-05-2015 08:31PM

Diego Simeone wrote: »

Seems a bit incorrect to class some of the above as sentient.

So... you're excluding some inner city Dubs as well?

silverfeather · 17-05-2015 08:32PM

the_syco wrote: »

So... you're excluding some inner city Dubs as well?

Now now we all veg out sometimes!

AndonHandon · 17-05-2015 08:36PM

Vote no.

silverfeather · 17-05-2015 08:38PM

AndonHandon wrote: »

Vote no.

How about I vote whoop yo ass then !!

JONJO THE MISER · 17-05-2015 08:42PM

Fecking tree huggers, nothing like shooting a buck in the head and having nice venison steaks and stew for dinner.

DareGod · 17-05-2015 08:52PM

It doesn't say that "testing on animals has been banned."

It simply refers to "a ban" on testing on animals.

So I'm just wondering..... can anyone confirm the terms and conditions of the ban in question?

Animals recognized as sentient beings in Australia!

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