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Animals recognized as sentient beings in Australia!

silverfeather

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/animals-are-now-legally-recognised-as-sentient-beings-in-australia-10256006.html

YEAH Aussies!

It was also recognized in France in Jan. Personally i would welcome a universal declaration. France and oz recognized animals as sentient beings with feelings rather than furniture. New Zealand did a few days ago too.

When will Ireland follow? It's about time we did! Buddhism recognizes this.

How can we get our country to take notice???

This concept is central to the philosophy of animals rights. And we all know how badly this are protected here! It would be a big step in the right direction!

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[Deleted User]

It's not "Austrailia", it's "Australia".

Oh, and it's not Australia, it's New Zealand.

Just saying.

Off now for some roast chicken for the dinner. Cheers. :P

silverfeather

Deleted User wrote: »

It's not "Austrailia", it's "Australia".

Oh, and it's not Australia, it's New Zealand.

Just saying.

Off now for some roast chicken for the dinner. Cheers. :P

No Australia just recognized it too!

Read the article.

New Zealand did it six days ago and now a few hrs ago Australia did it!:rolleyes:

silverfeather

France did it too in Jan!

silverfeather

COME ON IRELAND WE CAN DO IT!

[Deleted User]

silverfeather wrote: »

No Australia just recognized it too!

Read the article.

New Zealand did it six days ago and now a few hrs ago Australia did it!:rolleyes:

Roast chicken. Nom nom. :P

Amirani

Animal Welfare Act 1999 wrote:

animal—
(a)means any live member of the animal kingdom that is—
(i)a mammal; or
(ii)a bird; or
(iii)a reptile; or
(iv)an amphibian; or
(v)a fish (bony or cartilaginous); or
(vi)any octopus, squid, crab, lobster, or crayfish (including freshwater crayfish); or
(vii)any other member of the animal kingdom which is declared from time to time by the Governor-General, by Order in Council, to be an animal for the purposes of this Act; and
(b)includes any mammalian foetus, or any avian or reptilian pre-hatched young, that is in the last half of its period of gestation or development; and
(c)includes any marsupial pouch young;

Seems a bit incorrect to class some of the above as sentient.

[Deleted User]

Diego Simeone wrote: »

Seems a bit incorrect to class some of the above as sentient.

Especially in Austraiiiiiilia.

Yellowblackbird

There's also the animals that talk in cartoons.
They're very sentiental. If anyone is they are.

RaRaRasputin

I actually can't believe that animals would have been denied this status for so long. It's actually just embarrassing for mankind.

silverfeather

Deleted User wrote: »

Especially in Austraiiiiiilia.

It was a typo don't be an ass.:rolleyes:

Amirani

RaRaRasputin wrote: »

I actually can't believe that animals would have been denied this status for so long. It's actually just embarrassing for mankind.

Denied what status? The status that they're capable of subjective thought?

I agree that that is indeed the case for some animals, but not all that are classified in the bill I linked. This should not be a prerequisite for basic animal rights though.

timetogo

Well there's our next referendum sorted.

silverfeather

timetogo wrote: »

Well there's our next referendum sorted.

We don't need one they can just LEGISLATE ALREADY!

timetogo

silverfeather wrote: »

We don't need one they can just LEGISLATE ALREADY!

Does humour just fly over your head?

[Deleted User]

silverfeather wrote: »

It was a typo don't be an ass.:rolleyes:

No it wasn't, it was an error by the journalist, compounded by another error of yours. Don't be lazy and unthinking.

And don't be cruel to donkeys, either. You'll only hurt their feelings.

silverfeather

Deleted User wrote: »

No it wasn't, it was an error by the journalist, compounded by another error of yours. Don't be lazy and unthinking.

And don't be cruel to donkeys, either. You'll only hurt their feelings.

I hope you choke on that chicken! :mad:

Not modding ...but you don't have to post here if you don't want to. Hint hint...

silverfeather

Deleted User wrote: »

No it wasn't, it was an error by the journalist, compounded by another error of yours. Don't be lazy and unthinking.

And don't be cruel to donkeys, either. You'll only hurt their feelings.

I hate you!

silverfeather

By the way nice try but no one believes you have read Ulysses!

FluffyAngel

Don't think the farming/ slaughter community's would agree with the decree

We have a way of treating animals in Ireland that is beyond cruelty ..
I have a dog that could show a few humans about compassion to our fellow beings ..

Mind you the cat next door doesn't see it ..

Caught on film: pig bloodbath probed by PAC http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/caught-on-film-pig-bloodbath-probed-by-pac-31228638.html

[Deleted User]

Of course they are sentient.

It's what separates them from vegetables. They understand pain and deprivation, comfort and warmth etc.

silverfeather

FluffyAngel wrote: »

Don't think the farming/ slaughter community's would agree with the decree

We have a way of treating animals in Ireland that is beyond cruelty ..
I have a dog that could show a few humans about compassion to our fellow beings ..

Mind you the cat next door doesn't see it ..

Caught on film: pig bloodbath probed by PAC http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/caught-on-film-pig-bloodbath-probed-by-pac-31228638.html

Dep of Ag has a LOT to answer for ! That is shocking the man should not be allowed to farm any more.

silverfeather

Deleted User wrote: »

Of course they are sentient.

It's what separates them from vegetables. They understand pain and deprivation, comfort and warmth etc.

You have changed your tune about time welcome aboard!:)

RaRaRasputin

Diego Simeone wrote: »

Denied what status? The status that they're capable of subjective thought?

I agree that that is indeed the case for some animals, but not all that are classified in the bill I linked. This should not be a prerequisite for basic animal rights though.

The acknowledgement that they can feel seems to be novum here, so yes, I think this is quite overdue.

silverfeather

RaRaRasputin wrote: »

The acknowledgement that they can feel seems to be novum here, so yes, I think this is quite overdue.

I think it would help in getting animal testing for cosmetics banned. It's frivolous to say the least that it goes on. I never buy products that have been tested this way I know many others don't either.

the_syco

Diego Simeone wrote: »

Seems a bit incorrect to class some of the above as sentient.

So... you're excluding some inner city Dubs as well?

silverfeather

the_syco wrote: »

So... you're excluding some inner city Dubs as well?

Now now we all veg out sometimes!

AndonHandon

Vote no.

silverfeather

AndonHandon wrote: »

Vote no.

How about I vote whoop yo ass then !!

JONJO THE MISER

Fecking tree huggers, nothing like shooting a buck in the head and having nice venison steaks and stew for dinner.

DareGod

It doesn't say that "testing on animals has been banned."

It simply refers to "a ban" on testing on animals.

So I'm just wondering..... can anyone confirm the terms and conditions of the ban in question?