Same Sex Marriage Referendum Mega Thread - MOD WARNING IN FIRST POST

Bannasidhe wrote: »

And the No side are climbing up the front of buildings and stealing expensive banners - damaging them in the process.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/yes-banner-to-be-restored-after-removal-from-corks-north-main-street-330961.html#.VVcKsNDsBnQ.facebook

More on this...

The owners of the two shops the banner was (and will be again) attached to have been threatened with a boycott and were told their windows will be smashed in 'if the quaires win'.

Benny, who owns BDSM, has already run afoul of the NO Campaign for refusing to allow them to distribute leaflets in another one of his bars - the very popular Bodega.

Just comparing polls for yes and no to see what can happen.
Seanad abolition poll:
The poll of 1,000 adults carried out late last week shows that when undecideds are included 44 per cent back abolition, 27 per cent want the Seanad retained. 21 per cent don’t know and 8 per cent will not vote.
The Ipsos MRBI poll in today’s Times shows that when undecided voters are excluded then 62 per cent of voters back abolition while 38 per cent are against.

So in that poll when they removed undecided they increased the yes vote from 44% to 62%, No vote was increased from 27% to 38%
The referendum poll result: Yes 48.27%, No: 51.73%

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In today's poll:
The more accurate poll could be the 58% Yes rather than the headline 70% which is excluding don't no's.
The interesting thing is in todays poll they increased the yes from 58% to 70% but then in the article they say:
The conventional wisdom is undecideds are more likely to favour the status quo. In this latest poll we measured attitudes towards same-sex marriage in addition to voting intentions. Our analysis reveals a pattern of responses that is consistent with the view that undecideds lean towards No.
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/marriage-referendum-yes-lead-narrows-but-still-enough-to-win-1.2214590

The more accurate poll might be somewhere around 60% Yes, 40% No.

RobertKK wrote: »

Just comparing polls for yes and no to see what can happen.
Seanad abolition poll:
The poll of 1,000 adults carried out late last week shows that when undecideds are included 44 per cent back abolition, 27 per cent want the Seanad retained. 21 per cent don’t know and 8 per cent will not vote.
The Ipsos MRBI poll in today’s Times shows that when undecided voters are excluded then 62 per cent of voters back abolition while 38 per cent are against.

So in that poll when they removed undecided they increased the yes vote from 44% to 62%, No vote was increased from 27% to 38%
The referendum poll result: Yes 48.27%, No: 51.73%

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In today's poll:
The more accurate poll could be the 58% Yes rather than the headline 70% which is excluding don't no's.
The interesting thing is in todays poll they increased the yes from 58% to 70% but then in the article they say:
The conventional wisdom is undecideds are more likely to favour the status quo. In this latest poll we measured attitudes towards same-sex marriage in addition to voting intentions. Our analysis reveals a pattern of responses that is consistent with the view that undecideds lean towards No.
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/marriage-referendum-yes-lead-narrows-but-still-enough-to-win-1.2214590

The more accurate poll might be somewhere around 60% Yes, 40% No.

I'd agree with that but I'd imagine that when you factor in the Yes voters who won't turn up to vote I think it'll be much closer to the 50/50 mark

Cats fur sale wrote: »

Vote NO.

Why though?

Cats fur sale wrote: »

Because I feel it's the right thing to do.

Vote NO.

Why do you feel it's the right thing to do?

Tasden wrote: »

Imo those people were always going to vote no, they just now feel better about it because they have what they see as justification for doing so.

Exactly, they were just looking for a reason they could voice their bigotry without sounding bigotted, now they just sound idiotic

I'm starting to have bad vibes about this referendum. The No campaign seem to have stepped up their game and the amount of people who say they're voting no seem to be on the increase.

SummerSummit wrote: »

On my road all the Vote No posters were painted over with red paint. I have heard a number of people saying how awful it was and are now voting no.

The Vote No posters in my town were taken down altogether and a small poster put up on the poles explaining why they were taken down*. As we're a tiny village, there weren't any Yes posters anyway (still aren't), so it's a glorious poster-free zone. The only thing I heard about the No posters being taken down was a thank you on face book to the community council** for their removal from a same sex couple who are engaged to be married, with many locals thanking the post.


*it said something along the lines of "these were removed so that no person is insulted that their family is inferior to the "ideal"". And some more I can't remember about children thriving with love and community inclusiveness.

**can't imagine it actually was the community council, but the little posters have been left up anyway, so clearly people are ok with the "vandalism".

Cats fur sale wrote: »

My conscience tells me so.

No actual reason's then?

Cats fur sale wrote: »

Vote NO.

Why though?