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3 British ISIS brides that flew into Syria reportedly on the run from their husbands

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,246 ✭✭✭✭Riamfada


    Whos gangraping who now? Im confused. Are they being gangraped? Whats going on?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 762 ✭✭✭PeteFalk78


    FYI

    Not giving a flying fcuk what happens to them NOT EQUAL TO wanting them to be gangraped until they die


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,651 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    El Weirdo is oblivious to the irony of his posts.
    Quite the opposite. I'm trying to point out the irony in yours.

    Anyone that believes that raping and beheading is a suitable punishment foranything or anyone (let alone 3 teenage girls), is as bad as the other.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,074 ✭✭✭pmasterson95


    LDN_Irish wrote: »
    Go have sex with some 15 year old "women" and see if everyone agrees how fully capable of making adult decisions they are.

    Hint, they won't. And we'll be here with people just like you hoping you're gangraped in prison.
    Well you see no matter what pamphlet I get handed about how great that'd be I have just enough brain cells to realise no thats bad if I do that there will be consequences.
    But of course it seems such things as responsibility and consequences doesn't matter. They thought ISIS was a lovely bunch. No clue what they were at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,074 ✭✭✭pmasterson95


    PeteFalk78 wrote: »
    FYI

    Not giving a flying fcuk what happens to them NOT EQUAL TO wanting them to be gangraped until they die

    Tbh this is probably too complicated a concept for them to grasp.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,109 ✭✭✭✭threeball


    LDN_Irish wrote: »
    Go have sex with some 15 year old "women" and see if everyone agrees how fully capable of making adult decisions they are.

    Hint, they won't. And we'll be here with people just like you hoping you're gangraped in prison.

    Hmm, shall we stay in one of the safest most inclusive societys in the world where we have almost every amenity at our doorstep
    or
    travel to a warzone and wed lunatics who behead and maim people for heinous crimes like adultery and like to subject women to being no more valuable than a stray dog.

    Tough choice that even my 4yr old would struggle with :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭LDN_Irish


    PeteFalk78 wrote: »
    FYI

    Not giving a flying fcuk what happens to them NOT EQUAL TO wanting them to be gangraped until they die

    I think you're confused fella, I haven't implied that you want people to be gangraped. That's twice now you've completely failed to understand very simple posts and implied something has been said when it hasn't.

    You ought to be careful, you're a prime target for radicalisation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭LDN_Irish


    PeteFalk78 wrote: »
    FYI

    Not giving a flying fcuk what happens to them NOT EQUAL TO wanting them to be gangraped until they die

    I think you're confused fella, I haven't implied that you want people to be gangraped. That's twice now you've completely failed to understand very simple posts and implied something has been said when it hasn't.

    You ought to be careful, you're a prime target for radicalisation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭LDN_Irish


    threeball wrote: »
    Tough choice that even my 4yr old would struggle with :rolleyes:

    Yeah, you would think. It's such a bat**** insane decision that you'd think there was something wrong with them.

    Or if you're a "good and evil" "black and white" kind of character you might like to put no thought in to it whatsoever.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 762 ✭✭✭PeteFalk78


    LDN_Irish wrote: »
    I think you're confused fella, I haven't implied that you want people to be gangraped. That's twice now you've completely failed to understand very simple posts and implied something has been said when it hasn't.

    You ought to be careful, you're a prime target for radicalisation.

    Haha you're the one who is confused. What makes you think I was replying to you? Did I quote you?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Gotta love the SJW out in force, What happened to personal responsibility ? You do know at 16 in the UK you can have sex ? And most countries now are going to let 16 year olds vote. 16 is not a child.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭LDN_Irish


    PeteFalk78 wrote: »
    Haha you're the one who is confused. What makes you think I was replying to you? Did I quote you?

    No, you couldn't even successfully quote someone you were replying to. Congrats. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,109 ✭✭✭✭threeball


    LDN_Irish wrote: »
    Yeah, you would think. It's such a bat**** insane decision that you'd think there was something wrong with them.

    Or if you're a "good and evil" "black and white" kind of character you might like to put no thought in to it whatsoever.

    I think no matter who you are or how you stack it up you would need to be completely simple to think going to Syria/Iraq was a good idea regardless of your religion. I cannot think of one single 16 year old whom I've ever met who would be stupid enough to do such a thing so the "they're only kids" line doesn't wash with me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Gotta love the SJW out in force, What happened to personal responsibility ? You do know at 16 in the UK you can have sex ? And most countries now are going to let 16 year olds vote. 16 is not a child.

    It is when you have them that age yourself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭LDN_Irish


    threeball wrote: »
    I think no matter who you are or how you stack it up you would need to be completely simple to think going to Syria/Iraq was a good idea regardless of your religion. I cannot think of one single 16 year old whom I've ever met who would be stupid enough to do such a thing so the "they're only kids" line doesn't wash with me.

    Thay excuse wouldn't wash with me either, I haven't said that once.

    I have a theory. My theory is based on anecdote only so it's not cast iron. I think someone who would see IS propaganda videos and think "pure deadly boss, they're raping and beheading! I want in on that action and I'm not even a bloke! I actually trust these people to look after me and do the right thing!"

    I think those people have undiagnosed mental health conditions or learning difficulties, "completely simple" as you've put it.

    I also have a theory that where there's a vulture clash, mental health problems might be easier to miss. My neighbours when I grew up in London were Pakistani. The dad used to kick seven shades of **** out of the youngest one in the garden at night. I remember when I first moved to the house the boy boasted to me that he could count to 12, he was about 9 at the time. I was 8, I remember thinking he must be the stupidest ****er on Earth to think counting to 12 was an achievement.

    Years later I found out he'd been arrested for terrorism offences. He'd turned in to a sunni fundamentalist, but the family were kind of moderate for muslims. I think if I'd displayed the kind of behaviour that he did as a child, and if my parents had displayed the kind of behaviour that his parents had displayed, social services would have been involved and I'd have received an assessment. I think teachers and health visitors and the like had missed the issues in his house because with them being Pakistani it was hard to figure out what was cultural and what was a disorder.

    Just theories. "Good vs evil" is too simplistic for me, but it might be correct. I'm not an expert.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭LDN_Irish


    I typed that on a phone so apologies for mistakes. There were far more indicators than just the counting thing, but it'd take a long time to list them all. There was a lot of unpredictable violence. Even more than the usual male posturing you get among the young.

    My conclusion on that is that it's very sad. Others might think it's great that a potential danger is in prison where he can't harm anyone but himself and other prisoners or people paid to deal with that. Everyone is entitled to an opinion after all.


  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The level of bile and poison directed at three sublimely stupid kids is really awful. They're young, stupid, they think they're off to marry heroes doing Allahs work. They've certainly paid the price of that naivety and stupidity, there's no need to wish worse on them.

    And two 15 year olds and a 16 year old living the sheltered life of a Muslim girl, even in the UK, do not constitute women. When I was 15, I thought I knew everything, when I was 16, I was certain of it. I'd say these kids are only finding out now exactly how much they don't know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,074 ✭✭✭pmasterson95


    Candie wrote: »
    The level of bile and poison directed at three sublimely stupid kids is really awful. They're young, stupid, they think they're off to marry heroes doing Allahs work. They've certainly paid the price of that naivety and stupidity, there's no need to wish worse on them.

    And two 15 year olds and a 16 year old living the sheltered life of a Muslim girl, even in the UK, do not constitute women. When I was 15, I thought I knew everything, when I was 16, I was certain of it. I'd say these kids are only finding out now exactly how much they don't know.

    At 15 or 16 did you know that chopping off journalists heads or blowing people up wasn't a good thing and shouldn't be a wanted criteria for finding a good husband?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,042 ✭✭✭who the fug


    PeteFalk78 wrote: »
    No problems. Sure when you're sick of ISIS, come home, LDN_Irish and Nodin will welcome you back with open arms and hot dinner.

    I would and will welcome all of them back, and if they have broken UK law then I expect them to accept their punishment and then get on with their lives.

    All these people have fallen in love with an ideal, problem with ideals they are usual promoted by bull****e merchants


  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    At 15 or 16 did you know that chopping off journalists heads or blowing people up wasn't a good thing and shouldn't be a wanted criteria for finding a good husband?

    How many 15 year olds thought the IRA blowing up hotels full of people or putting bombs under politicians cars was a reasonable tactic or acceptable collateral damage?

    Kids are stupid, they romanticise and look at the possible outcome rather than the means. They've learnt the harsh realities, I daresay.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭LDN_Irish


    PeteFalk78 wrote: »
    FYI

    Not giving a flying fcuk what happens to them NOT EQUAL TO wanting them to be gangraped until they die

    Just noticed something interesting. Check attachment:

    "I hope they get everything that's coming to them!"

    "This post has been thanked by PeteFalk78"

    You want them to get everything that's coming to them or not?


  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    All these people have fallen in love with an ideal, problem with ideals they are usual promoted by bull****e merchants

    Thats how brainwashing and cults work, promote things in a way that people want to hear. The majority joining ISIS would almost certainly be thinking they're doing what their god wants, not that it's a great way to get some beheading practice in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,115 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    anna080 wrote: »
    They should not under any circumstances be let back into the UK.

    On the contrary. The UK Gov should go out there and get them. I'm sure their experiences would be powerfully persuasive as regards preventing others from heading out there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭BlaasForRafa


    Candie wrote: »
    Thats how brainwashing and cults work, promote things in a way that people want to hear. The majority joining ISIS would almost certainly be thinking they're doing what their god wants, not that it's a great way to get some beheading practice in.

    At least you got one thing correct, Islam is a cult that brainwashes it's followers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    OK any of the SJW types going to give us a cut-off age at where you are responsible for you're actions ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,835 ✭✭✭✭cloud493


    Me not giving a **** about them does not equate to me wanting them raped/shot/violently murdered in any way. If I still lived in the UK, I'd hope not a single penny of government money went towards assisting them either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,992 ✭✭✭mikeym


    What were they expecting before they left the UK?

    Loads of designer clothes and money :D

    I doubt Cameron will want them back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,059 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    cloud493 wrote: »
    Me not giving a **** about them does not equate to me wanting them raped/shot/violently murdered in any way. If I still lived in the UK, I'd hope not a single penny of government money went towards assisting them either.
    About what were you using the term Schadenfreude in your first post?


  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    OK any of the SJW types going to give us a cut-off age at where you are responsible for you actions ?

    So now SJW is the new dismissive disparagement. De PC brigade has run it's course I suppose, so we need a new meaningless put-down so that we can shut people up out of hand.

    The girls actions amount to going into ISIS controlled territory thinking they'd marry what they think are hero husbands.

    They haven't, it seems, beheaded anyone or blown up people, but hey, lets talk like they're just as bad as those who do to legitimise the vitriol.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,042 ✭✭✭who the fug


    mikeym wrote: »
    What were they expecting before they left the UK?

    Loads of designer clothes and money :D
    .

    Utopia, I would expect


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