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  • #812
    meglome
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,980 ✭✭✭meglome


    gravehold wrote: »
    Yes yes it's ok to send kids to the hospital cause you disagree with their opinions. :rolleyes:

    What's you opinion on the yes "equality" video of the where the parents? push the girl (looks around the same age) up at the door to spread their lies and fud?

    Just to make this clear I completely disagree with throwing eggs at these people.

    Then you've lost me. What lies are spread in the video?


  • #813
    gravehold
    Closed Accounts Posts: 912 ✭✭✭gravehold


    meglome wrote: »
    Just to make this clear I completely disagree with throwing eggs at these people.

    Then you've lost me. What lies are spread in the video?

    The woman in the video is seen pushing the young girl forward as the door opens, they are campaigning with the kid like you said was bad parenting. But you only seem to have a problem when the no side does it.

    Yes side has fud and lies just as much as the no side.


  • #814
    meglome
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,980 ✭✭✭meglome


    gravehold wrote: »
    The woman in the video is seen pushing the young girl forward as the door opens, they are campaigning with the kid like you said was bad parenting. But you only seem to have a problem when the no side does it.

    Yes side has fud and lies just as much as the no side.

    No that's not what I said at all. I said it was bad parenting to use your children to go out spreading lies and fear to people. Only the no side are doing this. The Yes side have used children to seek a Yes vote for more equality in our society. Imagine the horror of more equality, how will we get through it. I pity you if you can't see the difference.


  • #815
    gravehold
    Closed Accounts Posts: 912 ✭✭✭gravehold


    meglome wrote: »
    No that's not what I said at all. I said it was bad parenting to use your children to go out spreading lies and fear to people. Only the no side are doing this. The Yes side have used children to seek a Yes vote for more equality in our society. Imagine the horror of more equality, how will we get through it. I pity you if you can't see the difference.

    Both sides are using kids for lies and fear (as you put it), but it's ok when we do it.

    That's some fine double think from the yes side.

    Either both are wrong or neither or wrong.


  • #816
    meglome
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,980 ✭✭✭meglome


    gravehold wrote: »
    Both sides are using kids for lies and fear (as you put it), but it's ok when we do it.

    That's some fine double think from the yes side.

    Either both are wrong or neither or wrong.

    good grief man you really hear what you want to hear. I have clearly stated twice what I meant. I'm going to bed now and I'll take a quick glance in the mirror and be happy that I'm voting Yes for logical sound reasons.

    What you're doing is like saying it's the same to send a child out to steal as it is to send a child out to pick up litter. The former is clearly wrong and the latter benefits society. They are not the same. I'll be delighted to benefit society with my Yes vote.


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  • #817
    timetogo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 990 ✭✭✭timetogo


    gravehold wrote: »
    Both sides are using kids for lies and fear (as you put it), but it's ok when we do it.

    I think we can drop this pretence now.


  • #818
    ByfocalPhoto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 72 ✭✭ByfocalPhoto


    In a democracy you can express your opinion and you should not be in danger of being pelted. Thus the event should be safe for kids to attend.
    I hope they throw the book at this moron for assault on a child.
    I would imagine the top guys of the yes campaign will be very quick to condemn rhe incident as they should.
    He obviously didn't think it through. Allergies aside throwing things at children has to be an own goal.


  • #819
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,356 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    JONJO THE MISER wrote: »
    More yes supporters trying to silence debate and one of them assaulting no campaigners
    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/girl-with-allergy-suffered-anaphylactic-shock-after-egg-pelted-at-no-campaigners-31220488.html

    Youths pelted the eggs, not yes or no campaigners. They are at it in my area all the time. Gave my old flat mate a black eye and blinded a nurse in the past.

    Can't really complain of bias with shoddy journalism like this.


  • #820
    Ozymandius2011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,712 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Of course I condemn the attack on the child with the egg as does the Yes campaign. Colm O Gorman said so yesterday. In my opinion it was a random act of thuggery and noone should use it for political advantage. There is no evidence of a link to the yes campaign.


  • #821
    traprunner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭traprunner


    gravehold wrote: »
    The woman in the video is seen pushing the young girl forward as the door opens, they are campaigning with the kid like you said was bad parenting. But you only seem to have a problem when the no side does it.

    Yes side has fud and lies just as much as the no side.

    1. What lies?
    2. What is 'fud'?


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  • #822
    traprunner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭traprunner


    Has it been confirmed that the egg throwing youth was a yes campaigner?

    Is Justin Bieber a yes campaigner? http://www.sundayworld.com/style/showbiz/justin-bieber-has-completed-most-of-probation-for-egg-throwing
    Is this woman a yes campaigner? http://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/news/crime/neighbour-hit-in-row-over-egg-throwing-1-7226252
    What about this crowd? http://www.bathchronicle.co.uk/Egg-thrown-David-Cameron-protestors-greet-Prime/story-26439678-detail/story.html
    And these youths/teens? http://news.hjnews.com/allaccess/cache-county-sheriff-s-office-seeking-egg-throwing-teens/article_36976474-e3cb-11e4-a63c-5344ba7c3cd7.html

    Egg throwing is wrong and definitely not nice but it could just be a random attack that just happens and not necessarily targeted at the no campaigners. Potentially just wrong place wrong time.

    I hope the girl recovers and they someday find a cure because egg is a tough thing to avoid in foods and it must be horrible living with it.


  • #823
    ByfocalPhoto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 72 ✭✭ByfocalPhoto


    The youth was certainly a yes supporter making a point very poorly.
    No actual yes or no campaign would condone that sort of behaviour because it is horrible strategy.


  • #824
    traprunner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭traprunner


    ByfocalPhoto wrote: »
    The youth was certainly a yes supporter making a point very poorly.

    Where is the evidence to back it up?

    Either way he is an idiot.


  • #825
    frostyjacks
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,951 ✭✭✭frostyjacks


    traprunner wrote: »

    Egg throwing is wrong and definitely not nice but it could just be a random attack that just happens and not necessarily targeted at the no campaigners. Potentially just wrong place wrong time.

    I hope the girl recovers and they someday find a cure because egg is a tough thing to avoid in foods and it must be horrible living with it.

    Wrong place, wrong time? You could argue that if she was standing outside a nightclub at chucking out time. This was outside a shopping centre in broad daylight. She has every right to feel safe there.


  • #826
    ByfocalPhoto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 72 ✭✭ByfocalPhoto


    traprunner wrote:
    Where is the evidence to back it up?


    I hear he is all over twitter trying to justify himself. I will try and find his tweets and see if they betray a slight bias.


  • #827
    Ozymandius2011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,712 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    frostyjacks wrote: »
    Wrong place, wrong time? You could argue that if she was standing outside a nightclub at chucking out time. This was outside a shopping centre in broad daylight. She has every right to feel safe there.
    Sure but in a highly charged political campaign I think its questionable. They appear to be adopting the tactics of Manif pour Tous, the group which marched against marriage in France, who were always bringing their children to demonstrations with them despite warnings from the government about security. I think the reason rightwing groups do this is because of their obsession with fertility as the sole purpose for marriage. So if you believe in marriage for love and don't want children, then in Iona's eyes yours is not a real family.


  • #828
    SireOfSeth
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 340 ✭✭SireOfSeth


    frostyjacks wrote: »
    Wrong place, wrong time? You could argue that if she was standing outside a nightclub at chucking out time. This was outside a shopping centre in broad daylight. She has every right to feel safe there.

    Wow! Talk about missing his point. Of course she has every right to be there and feel safe. But as far as we are aware the Gardai haven't ascertained whether it was related to the referendum or a hatred of little girls or...


  • #829
    frostyjacks
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,951 ✭✭✭frostyjacks


    SireOfSeth wrote: »
    Wow! Talk about missing his point. Of course she has every right to be there and feel safe. But as far as we are aware the Gardai haven't ascertained whether it was related to the referendum or a hatred of little girls or...

    I got the point exactly. They suggested it was somehow wrong for a daughter to be with her mother in a public place during the day. That is complete nonsense. Should we all live in fear now?


  • #830
    traprunner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭traprunner


    frostyjacks wrote: »
    Wrong place, wrong time? You could argue that if she was standing outside a nightclub at chucking out time. This was outside a shopping centre in broad daylight. She has every right to feel safe there.

    Wouldn't you agree that Amanda Brunker was probably standing in the wrong place at the wrong time when a seagull pooped on her head? (Lucky it didn't get into her eyes)

    Amanda had every right to feel safe there as it was not outside a nightclub at chucking out time (whatever chucking out time has to do with anything here.)

    http://www.independent.ie/style/celebrity/celebrity-news/a-seagull-s-in-my-hair-disaster-for-amanda-brunker-on-vip-style-awards-red-carpet-31170873.html


  • #831
    traprunner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭traprunner


    frostyjacks wrote: »
    I got the point exactly. They suggested it was somehow wrong for a daughter to be with her mother in a public place during the day. That is complete nonsense. Should we all live in fear now?

    No...you most certainly did not get the point! I know because I was the one making it. No where did I state that she shouldn't have been there. My point was that it could have been a random egg throwing and not a planned one to target the no side.


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  • #832
    SireOfSeth
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 340 ✭✭SireOfSeth


    frostyjacks wrote: »
    I got the point exactly. They suggested it was somehow wrong for a daughter to be with her mother in a public place during the day. That is complete nonsense. Should we all live in fear now?

    You were replying to traprunner's post...
    traprunner wrote: »
    Egg throwing is wrong and definitely not nice but it could just be a random attack that just happens and not necessarily targeted at the no campaigners. Potentially just wrong place wrong time.

    I hope the girl recovers and they someday find a cure because egg is a tough thing to avoid in foods and it must be horrible living with it.

    I don't see anywhere where he suggested it was somehow wrong for a daughter to be with her mother in a public place during the day.


  • #833
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Very first thing the "No" side did was attempt to use this little girl's medical emergency as a chance to take a swipe at the "Yes" side. That's pretty pathetic.

    Like a bunch of teenagers on bikes throwing eggs were part of the yes campaign :rolleyes:

    Not really any level David Quinn's side won't stoop to.


  • #834
    ByfocalPhoto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 72 ✭✭ByfocalPhoto


    I get the strangest feeling that if someone threw an egg at a yes rally this same group would have no problem ascribing political motivation.
    Colm O'Gorman who I hold in the highest regard condemned the action in the strongest terms on twitter #marref . I have never blamed the yes campaign. To try to say it wasn't politically motivate however is a bridge too far.


  • #835
    frostyjacks
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,951 ✭✭✭frostyjacks


    traprunner wrote: »
    Wouldn't you agree that Amanda Brunker was probably standing in the wrong place at the wrong time when a seagull pooped on her head? (Lucky it didn't get into her eyes)

    Amanda had every right to feel safe there as it was not outside a nightclub at chucking out time (whatever chucking out time has to do with anything here.)

    http://www.independent.ie/style/celebrity/celebrity-news/a-seagull-s-in-my-hair-disaster-for-amanda-brunker-on-vip-style-awards-red-carpet-31170873.html

    You're comparing apples and oranges here. Where should the little girl have been? Alone in the car? Told to go off on her own for a while?


  • #836
    traprunner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭traprunner


    frostyjacks wrote: »
    You're comparing apples and oranges here. Where should the little girl have been? Alone in the car? Told to go off on her own for a while?

    Still missing or twisting the point.


  • #837
    SireOfSeth
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 340 ✭✭SireOfSeth


    ByfocalPhoto wrote: »
    I get the strangest feeling that if someone threw an egg at a yes rally this same group would have no problem ascribing political motivation.
    Colm O'Gorman who I hold in the highest regard condemned the action in the strongest terms on twitter #marref . I have never blamed the yes campaign. To try to say it wasn't politically motivate however is a bridge too far.

    You obviously have some facts that the rest of us aren't privy to.


  • #838
    southstar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 465 ✭✭southstar


    Just consider Paddy Manning if you are ever in doubt as to whether being gay is a choice or not.


  • #839
    gravehold
    Closed Accounts Posts: 912 ✭✭✭gravehold


    southstar wrote: »
    Just consider Paddy Manning if you are ever in doubt as to whether being gay is a choice or not.

    Don't get your logic


  • #840
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,356 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    ByfocalPhoto wrote: »
    I hear he is all over twitter trying to justify himself. I will try and find his tweets and see if they betray a slight bias.

    Good, hopefully it will be easier to identify him and get the Gardai to pick him up. There were a bunch of prats doing this around UCD for years (or multiple groups of prats), constantly heard reports of people getting black eyes and severe bruising as they used to pelt people while driving past at speed.
    ByfocalPhoto wrote: »
    I get the strangest feeling that if someone threw an egg at a yes rally this same group would have no problem ascribing political motivation.
    Colm O'Gorman who I hold in the highest regard condemned the action in the strongest terms on twitter #marref . I have never blamed the yes campaign. To try to say it wasn't politically motivate however is a bridge too far.

    Some young scrote egged a child, regardless of the yes or no side, the person should get someone like Jim Brannigan to correct their behaviour. I won't condone it either way, but to say it was political rather than an idiot looking for an excuse to be stupid is too far.


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  • #841
    galljga1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,937 ✭✭✭galljga1


    southstar wrote: »
    Just consider Paddy Manning if you are ever in doubt as to whether being gay is a choice or not.

    You've lost me with that one.


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