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What's considered good bhp

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,309 ✭✭✭✭wotzgoingon


    mik_da_man wrote: »
    Looks like 420 is a bit rounded...
    414 is the actual figure.

    Audi A4 RS4


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,193 ✭✭✭Cleveland Hot Pocket


    Audi A4 RS4

    Rs4 TDI? lol
    (I'm only joking, I remember mik_da_man's rs4 from a midway meet)
    Probably the only actual RS4 I've seen up close in reality


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,606 ✭✭✭toastedpickles


    Rs4 TDI? lol
    (I'm only joking, I remember mik_da_man's rs4 from a midway meet)
    Probably the only actual RS4 I've seen up close in reality

    I seen the elusive rs4 tdi out my way the other day, so so rare, so rare audi never made it

    Knowing my luck they probably did


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,752 ✭✭✭Bohrio


    Rs4 TDI? lol
    (I'm only joking, I remember mik_da_man's rs4 from a midway meet)
    Probably the only actual RS4 I've seen up close in reality

    I was actually gonna say that...

    I have heard so many people say "Oh man... I love the A4 RS4, a friend of mine has the diesel"... and I am .. oh well


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,193 ✭✭✭Cleveland Hot Pocket


    I seen the elusive rs4 tdi out my way the other day, so so rare, so rare audi never made it

    Knowing my luck they probably did

    Must be the most common car on the road that wasnt made by the manufacturer!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73 ✭✭Johnny K


    8-10 sec to 60mph will generally feel quick for everyday driving.

    Anything below will feel quick full stop.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭mik_da_man


    porsche959 wrote: »
    Audi RS4?

    Yeah, have a Pug 106 Rallye, at about 130 BHP and it's a quick wee yoke - very light.

    And then the RS4, completely different animal and has loads of power.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,752 ✭✭✭Bohrio


    mik_da_man wrote: »
    And then the RS4, completely different animal and has loads of power.

    and I still want more power!

    I had a rally when I when I was younger.. great fun.. nippy as ...


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭mik_da_man


    Bohrio wrote: »
    man I must be still young at heart but I still want more power!

    Well it has lots, but more is always nice :D

    Supercharger is the only viable option - or a new car!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,752 ✭✭✭Bohrio


    mik_da_man wrote: »
    Well it has lots, but more is always nice :D

    Supercharger is the only viable option - or a new car!!

    True...

    An air filter, and a ECU will only give you a bit extra..

    I thought about APRs upgrade but is easy 12K pounds... but what a cracker of a car will be... until you want more power again...


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  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭mik_da_man


    Bohrio wrote: »
    True...

    An air filter, and a ECU will only give you a bit extra..

    I thought about APRs upgrade but is easy 12K pounds... but what a cracker of a car will be... until you want more power again...

    Yeah, the only ban for buck is the Supercharger, JHM stuff looks good too but not really a runner over here..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,924 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    As said before, it's all about ratio between weight and power. Then add on top of that how car manages to put that power to use.

    Mx5 was only 140hp, but it always felt alive and extremely fun to drive.

    Put that 140 hp in to something crazy like vectra and it will be boring and ****y.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,780 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    My experience of cars is relatively narrow. So I had a 1.6 petrol vectra, I'd say it did well to put out 100bhp. Useless for any situations where acceleration was needed. Drove like a brick.

    Had then a 1.8 Honda accord, probably put out about 130bhp and was a revelation compared to the vectra. Lovely car - a tad underpowered but was great for overtaking. Engine sounded nice at high revs!

    Current car is a ford focus bog standard enough 1.6tdi - have to say pleasantly impressed. I think I read it puts out 90bhp, but has plenty of power (for me anyway) in a normal car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 221 ✭✭robbiew


    I'm more then satisfied with my mk5 gti.. Motorway to boreen, don't want anything else.. probably couldn't afford it anyway... :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,309 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    225 stock in my 3L Quattro A6.. but I wonder did the original owner get it remapped as it seems very quick in comparison to most on the roads, despite the size.

    As a fun aside I happened upon a 04 version of my own today.. rare as hen's teeth they are now! Still a few on DoneDeal and the likes but I rarely encounter another one on the roads.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 221 ✭✭robbiew


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    225 stock in my 3L Quattro A6.. but I wonder did the original owner get it remapped as it seems very quick in comparison to most on the roads, despite the size.

    As a fun aside I happened upon a 04 version of my own today.. rare as hen's teeth they are now! Still a few on DoneDeal and the likes but I rarely encounter another one on the roads.

    tax & insurance must be in the mortgage levels on that..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,313 ✭✭✭Mycroft H


    I was driving my cousins Legacy B4. Now that's a quick car. Even if it was auto. It's rapid quick. About 6 seconds to 60 in the auto.

    But I tell you what's quicker. My dad has a Kawasaki ZZR1200. 150bhp. Weighs about 270kg.

    He was driving on the M4 one Sunday afternoon. Coming off a slip ramp, I gunned it in the legacy. The Kawasaki left the Legacy for dead. Not even a chance. I'd need a M5 to keep up and even that would struggle.

    So. Bang for buck, nothing beats a powerful motorbike. Only downside is the falling over bit, but that happens not too often.


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭Pugzilla


    Yeah and annual tax for a bike is only €88, even if it can do 0-60 in 2.5 secs, 160km/hr in 1st gear and quartermile in under 10 seconds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭ironclaw


    Took a 700 bhp GT-R out for a spin. Nothing has ever come as close or as terrifying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,309 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    robbiew wrote: »
    tax & insurance must be in the mortgage levels on that..

    Tax is fairly hefty alright.. €1494 for the year or €422 per quarter (but when you break it down it costs the price of a cup of coffee extra per day over a 2L on the old bands)

    Insurance is only €600-something with fully comp and the usual extras.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭Asmooh


    < 100 = Useless
    100-150 = Normal
    150-200 = Sporty
    250-300 = Good performance
    300-500 = Good power

    but this doesn't make sense does it? so lets use the following

    0-100: < 3 sec = Hyper car
    0-100: 3-4 sec = Super High performance car
    0-100: 4-6 sec = High performance car
    0-100: 6-7 sec = Performance/Sport-Class car
    0-100: 7-8 sec = Normal car
    0-100: 8-9 sec = Normal Family car
    0-100: 9+ = Slow car


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 843 ✭✭✭HandsomeDan


    Asmooh wrote: »
    < 100 = Useless
    100-150 = Normal
    150-200 = Sporty
    250-300 = Good performance
    300-500 = Good power

    but this doesn't make sense does it? so lets use the following

    0-100: < 3 sec = Hyper car
    0-100: 3-4 sec = Super High performance car
    0-100: 4-6 sec = High performance car
    0-100: 6-7 sec = Performance/Sport-Class car
    0-100: 7-8 sec = Normal car
    0-100: 8-9 sec = Normal Family car
    0-100: 9+ = Slow car

    8-9 sec normal family car? 12 sec I would have thought - think 1.9tdi Passat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,313 ✭✭✭Mycroft H


    8-9 sec normal family car? 12+ sec I would have thought.

    What about 14? I can manage to overtake most things with a few gear changes and being sensible when I go?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭Ryath


    Asmooh wrote: »
    < 100 = Useless
    100-150 = Normal
    150-200 = Sporty
    250-300 = Good performance
    300-500 = Good power

    but this doesn't make sense does it? so lets use the following

    0-100: < 3 sec = Hyper car
    0-100: 3-4 sec = Super High performance car
    0-100: 4-6 sec = High performance car
    0-100: 6-7 sec = Performance/Sport-Class car
    0-100: 7-8 sec = Normal car
    0-100: 8-9 sec = Normal Family car
    0-100: 9+ = Slow car

    Certainly doesn't apply in Ireland. There is a bigger gap to what you'd call a normal car your average 1.6 diesel will barely crack 12 seconds. Even a entry level BMW or a most models where the odd Irish person gos for an engine above the entry level will be in the 9-10 range. My 1.5 tonne 142bhp Mondeo with a 0-60 time of 10 seconds is faster than 90% of the cars on Irish roads. It's no rocket but can make brisk progress when needed.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 843 ✭✭✭HandsomeDan


    Ryath wrote: »
    Certainly doesn't apply in Ireland. There is a bigger gap to what you'd call a normal car your average 1.6 diesel will barely crack 12 seconds. Even a entry level BMW or a most models where the odd Irish person gos for an engine above the entry level will be in the 9-10 range. My 1.5 tonne 142bhp Mondeo with a 0-60 time of 10 seconds is faster than 90% of the cars on Irish roads. It's no rocket but can make brisk progress when needed.

    Yup, Id say
    14s: slow
    12s: average
    10s: better

    8s: Entry level fast
    6s: Proper fast
    4s: Scary fast


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,620 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    Asmooh wrote: »
    < 100 = Useless
    100-150 = Normal
    150-200 = Sporty
    250-300 = Good performance
    300-500 = Good power
    More=Pooowwwwaaaaaa!

    :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,480 ✭✭✭YbFocus


    Yup, Id say
    14s: slow
    12s: average
    10s: better

    8s: Entry level fast
    6s: Proper fast
    4s: Scary fast

    Much more realistic view on Ireland!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,907 ✭✭✭power pants


    indeed, most people drive slow accelerating cars over here but for a minority


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭Asmooh


    lol... my car does 0-100 in 8,8 sec with a 1.6 and 116hp and for me its "slow" but those are stock specs :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭Ryath


    indeed, most people drive slow accelerating cars over here but for a minority

    Even a lot of those with higher powered cars are slow accelerating. I'd swear a lot just stick it in fifth and never shift down unless they stop. Crawling up to speed coming out of towns once they leave the 50 zone . Was stuck behing a S350 yesterday driven by an older lady coming out of town 500 metres down the road she was still barely doing 60 when I got a chance to overtake.


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