What's considered good bhp

Noccy_Mondy

corktina wrote: »

I think 202 in my Mondeo and 173 in my Focus are not shabby at all :-)

Stop showing off :P

pudzey101

Have 190-220bhp in a car that weights about 1024kg nippy out !!

Gumbo

I have just short of 180bhp and just short of 300 foot pounds of torque in my Fabia, and that a lot! But I had 345 bhp and 500 foot pounds in the E60 before that. It's all relative!

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime

id get one of these if i could

http://www.createforum.com/ljp/viewtopic.php?t=2029&sid=192119deb92206157320ef10fb604e36&mforum=ljp

wotzgoingon

pudzey101 wrote: »

Have 190-220bhp in a car that weights about 750kg nippy out !!

What car is that?

corktina

Variohorsepower model....

HandsomeDan

Pudz is fos

pudzey101

dont be jelous dan , its a stripped out dc2

MortGoldman

I have 197 bhp ( probably 170-180 really) in my FTO Version R.

193 bhp standard e39 530d. The FTO feels faster and definitely is 0-60, but the BMW is relentless on the open road. Going to remap the 530d soon to take it to 230. To be honest, I think 160-170 is the bare minimum I can tolerate in a daily driver. Driving my girlfriends 04 c220 cdi is a pain in the arse and that has 140 or so.

wotswattage

My old 150bhp Golf Mk3 GTI would eat my 160bhp Alfa 159 in a straight line.
1090kg vs 1480kg!!

Overall I'd say any car with 150+ bhp should be able to move with some urgency if needs be. Not necessarily rapid, but 150bhp is more than a good share of cars on the road regardless of weight.

gctest50

Twas Not wrote: »

Sounded like the Beemer was in the wrong gear.

seems to happen a lot - they need a shift light or smth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEPu6TyMGt8

lomb

250bhp seems to be the sweetspot where there aren't many performance gains beyond. Traction control kills the power anyway and unless you've all wheel drive you wil struggle to get the power down.

kay 9

Bhp without torque is no fun. Had a Rover 25 van 2.0 td with 155bhp and 250lbft torque with minimal work & cost needed and that was fun to drive bar the handling being a little testing. I think they weigh somewhere between 1100 - 1200kg. 0-60 was low 7s. Sub 7 sec 0-60 would have needed a vnt turbo upgrade, upgraded clutch etc and that's all ££ I didn't have.

simplybam

In regards to power to weight ratio. Got a Merc E 200 Kompressor with 163 bhp and a Kawasaki ZZR 1200 with 168 bhp. Car weighs in at about 1.5 tons and bike at roughly 250 kg. Guess which one is faster and accelerates better?

Merc: 0-60 in 9.8 seconds, top speed 230 km/h
Bike: 0-60 in 3.2 seconds, top speed 270 km/h

Bohrio

Power is never enough, 200, 300, 400, it might be ok for a while but after a few hours you always want more

kay 9

Bohrio wrote: »

Power is never enough, 200, 300, 400, it might be ok for a while but after a few hours you always want more

That's why the lads on top gear find it hard to review family estates I'm thinking :d

B Rabbit

Went from a 130bhp tdi mk4 golf which I thought was quick until I got a 200bhp MK5 GTI. After a while i'm sure I'll get used to the power.

Pawwed Rig

JC01 wrote: »

It's very true what other posters said about power to weight but IMO 200+ is the minimum before you can even start calling a car nippy, and that would be in the like of an old light jap car etc.

True that. my insurance company tried to tell me that my Insignia 160bhp was a high powered car :pac:

corktina

Bohrio wrote: »

Power is never enough, 200, 300, 400, it might be ok for a while but after a few hours you always want more

yep, too much is just enough....for now

Bohrio

corktina wrote: »

yep, too much is just enough....for now

Thats what I said about mine... I'll give you a month

rocky

255bhp in a 1.5t car is alright, but would like more power when accelerating from 100+

Henry Ford III

Good bhp? I'd say 30 bhp more than you need.

mik_da_man

As said above it's all about power to weight.

I have a car with 130ish bhp and it's plenty quick.
Has given a lot of much higher powered cars a fair surprise.
I'm quite happy with it


That said, my other car has 420 bhp and that's pretty nice too :P

wotzgoingon

mik_da_man wrote: »

As said above it's all about power to weight.

I have a car with 130ish bhp and it's plenty quick.
Has given a lot of much higher powered cars a fair surprise.
I'm quite happy with it


That said, my other car has 420 bhp and that's pretty nice too :P

What cars are they?
I really want to know what the 420 bhp car is.

mik_da_man

wotzgoingon wrote: »

What cars are they?
I really want to know what the 420 bhp car is.

The first one is easy..
Have a guess at the second!

toastedpickles

mik_da_man wrote: »

The first one is easy..
Have a guess at the second!

I know what they are Only cos i seen the 420 one :pac:

porsche959

mik_da_man wrote: »

The first one is easy..
Have a guess at the second!

Aston-Martin DB7 Vantage - [1999]420 bhp @ 6000 rpm

Aston-Martin Vantage V8 - [2008]
420 bhp @ 7000 rpm

Jaguar XF 4.2 V8 Supercharged - [2009]
420 bhp @ 6250 rpm

Porsche 911 Turbo 996 - [2000]
420 bhp @ 6000 rpm

TVR Cerbera 4.5 - [1997]
420 bhp @ 6750 rpm

Volkswagen(VW) Phaeton 6.0 W12 - [2005]
420 bhp @ 6000 rpm

Lamborghini LM002 5.2 V12 - [1986]
420 bhp @ 6800 rpm

Bentley Continental T 6.8 V8 Turbo - [1998]
420 bhp @ 4000 rpm

http://www.autosnout.com/Car-Power-List.php

mik_da_man

porsche959 wrote: »

Aston-Martin DB7 Vantage - [1999]420 bhp @ 6000 rpm

Aston-Martin Vantage V8 - [2008]
420 bhp @ 7000 rpm

Jaguar XF 4.2 V8 Supercharged - [2009]
420 bhp @ 6250 rpm

Porsche 911 Turbo 996 - [2000]
420 bhp @ 6000 rpm

TVR Cerbera 4.5 - [1997]
420 bhp @ 6750 rpm

Volkswagen(VW) Phaeton 6.0 W12 - [2005]
420 bhp @ 6000 rpm

Lamborghini LM002 5.2 V12 - [1986]
420 bhp @ 6800 rpm

Bentley Continental T 6.8 V8 Turbo - [1998]
420 bhp @ 4000 rpm

http://www.autosnout.com/Car-Power-List.php

Looks like 420 is a bit rounded...
414 is the actual figure.

porsche959

mik_da_man wrote: »

Looks like 420 is a bit rounded...
414 is the actual figure.

Audi RS4?

Bohrio

mik_da_man wrote: »

Looks like 420 is a bit rounded...
414 is the actual figure.

I can easy think of two cars, one a 4.0 and the other a 4.2

And with either of them I would still want more power...