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Communion season in full flow...parents question

  • 11-05-2015 04:34PM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,969 ✭✭✭


    I was talking to someone today whose daughter is having her 1st Holy Communion on Saturday, all set - dress bought, restaurant booked, party afterwards etc. etc. but her parents don't go to mass or seem to be too bothered about religion.

    Do parents get back into Church ways following the communion whilst the child is growing up or does it all go out the window again after a week or 2 (or when the money's spent)

    This isn't meant to be a religious discussion just interested in the aftermath of Communions.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,420 ✭✭✭Lollipops23


    buck65 wrote: »
    Do parents get back into Church ways following the communion whilst the child is growing up or does it all go out the window again after a week or 2 (or when the money's spent)

    It's been that way for donkeys.

    My aul pair aren't religious but still made me do the whole communion/confo thing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    buck65 wrote: »
    This isn't meant to be a religious discussion.

    Good luck with that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,902 ✭✭✭MagicIRL


    Child makes a bucket load of cash, guests think you're the bees knees at hosting parties, what's not to like?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,558 ✭✭✭✭dreamers75


    Kids aware of more than 1 religion and that god doesnt exist in any form, they knew this before communion so then we asked if they wanted to make theirs.

    None have said no yet .....wonder why :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭zeffabelli


    buck65 wrote: »
    I was talking to someone today whose daughter is having her 1st Holy Communion on Saturday, all set - dress bought, restaurant booked, party afterwards etc. etc. but her parents don't go to mass or seem to be too bothered about religion.

    Do parents get back into Church ways following the communion whilst the child is growing up or does it all go out the window again after a week or 2 (or when the money's spent)

    This isn't meant to be a religious discussion just interested in the aftermath of Communions.

    No.

    It's peer pressure so your child is not excluded, you know because Catholic schools are so inclusive and compassionate......they just make the non believers sit out on a chair somewhere.

    SO much kindness displayed by 1st Holy Communion.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,335 ✭✭✭wendell borton


    Stalin would approve, maybe we should have some show trials....oh wait communion you say.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,969 ✭✭✭buck65


    zeffabelli wrote: »
    No.

    It's peer pressure so your child is not excluded, you know because Catholic schools are so inclusive and compassionate......they just make the non believers sit out on a chair somewhere.

    SO much kindness displayed by 1st Holy Communion.

    My son goes to a non denominational school so if he wants to make his Communion he has to go to another school/church for the day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,713 ✭✭✭keano_afc


    Kids get to dress up, make a few quid, folks get sloshed. Ask 99% of parents what it symbolizes and you'd probably get a reply of "do you want another can?"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 216 ✭✭redbel05


    Depends on the parents. I have known one or two families who did make an effort to get back into religious ways after their child made their communion, but many more who didn't. One of the local priests does a thing where both the children and the parents do a kind of religious preparation on the run up to the day and think it helps for some...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,035 ✭✭✭homewardbound11


    buck65 wrote: »
    I was talking to someone today whose daughter is having her 1st Holy Communion on Saturday, all set - dress bought, restaurant booked, party afterwards etc. etc. but her parents don't go to mass or seem to be too bothered about religion.

    Do parents get back into Church ways following the communion whilst the child is growing up or does it all go out the window again after a week or 2 (or when the money's spent)

    This isn't meant to be a religious discussion just interested in the aftermath of Communions.


    As an exhausted parent after a communion yesterday. It is very hard not to answer your question without bringing into it religious belief and Catholicism.

    Personally like all things these days we as parents overdo the whole thing and the idea/ indoctrination process of the religion is lost .
    Having said that I thoroughly enjoyed the local priests ceremony yesterday.

    -) first wholly communion will not change the parent into a mass goer.

    -) I would like to know is there other religions with a similar process for young children .
    -) isn't it more important to be a good person in both the community and family life. To word it a "good Christian .".and to ensure your children do the same.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    My daughter made hers in 2003, it was a day out. We'd never been to church and never went back. I wouldn't do it now and wish we hadn't done it at all but at the time it was the done thing.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 560 ✭✭✭Flood


    As an exhausted parent after a communion yesterday.

    Drank too much vino?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    buck65 wrote: »
    I was talking to someone today whose daughter is having her 1st Holy Communion on Saturday, all set - dress bought, restaurant booked, party afterwards etc. etc. but her parents don't go to mass or seem to be too bothered about religion.

    Do parents get back into Church ways following the communion whilst the child is growing up or does it all go out the window again after a week or 2 (or when the money's spent)

    This isn't meant to be a religious discussion just interested in the aftermath of Communions.

    The majority would be the bolded section, in my experience.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    The following sentence will say it all.





    "it's all about the Money "

    Nothing more and nothing less


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 978 ✭✭✭Fudge You



    Personally like all things these days we as parents overdo the whole thing and the idea/ indoctrination process of the religion is lost .



    You are a parent, an adult. You make the choices.
    And by the sounds of it, you made some kinda silly ones, in regards to the communion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,519 ✭✭✭Sunny Dayz


    In the year my son was making his First Communion we definitely went to mass more often. There were special masses arranged for the communion children. But we would have gone to mass before this anyway, just not every Sunday, but at least once a month and also for special occasions and anniversaries.


    I have found that since my son made his communion he is less interested in going to mass, especially in the last few months. I think the communion preparation masses were good, certainly more engaging for the congregation. Regular Sunday mass has no interest for most children or even adults. It also tends to be left up to me to say right we'll go to mass this Sunday, or so-and-so's anniversary mass is on, we should go to it. My husband never suggests going to mass so the religious responsibility is left up to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,519 ✭✭✭Sunny Dayz


    My son was at a birthday party at the weekend at a leisure centre (bowling, play areas, laser quest, etc) . When I went to collect him, there were a few parents who had their kids dumped in the play area while they sat in the bar drinking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,276 ✭✭✭readyletsgo


    If you christen your child, they are added to the live register of Christians. Not going to church then until your kid has 1st holy communion, which, if you have a daughter, you are presenting your small child as a bride of God, which is weird in my eyes, not sure about boys, prob just involved. But that keeps the numbers up for the church for a day. And all the kids think of is the money and a part. Which in fairness, they make a ton on the day.

    So in my eyes, if you are not practising Christians or full church goers you should not Christian you child to add to the dead numbers of christans in the world and let your child decide what religion they want to be part of, if any or none.

    I know a couple parents that had 1st holy communion over the years, not Christian so decided to get there kid some nice clothes for the day and bring them out for a meal or somethin.

    At the end of the day, it's just a 'keep the numbers up' without parents even realizing it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 978 ✭✭✭Fudge You


    if you have a daughter, you are presenting your small child as a bride of God, which is weird in my eyes,

    Ahhh JJJJaysus Chhhhrist*



    *In Des Curly's voice from the Snapper.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Santa Cruz


    eviltwin wrote: »
    My daughter made hers in 2003, it was a day out. We'd never been to church and never went back. I wouldn't do it now and wish we hadn't done it at all but at the time it was the done thing.
    In other words you were incapable of making up your own mind and acted like sheep.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Parents getting shiite faced in the company of their kids, just like in biblical times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Santa Cruz wrote: »
    In other words you were incapable of making up your own mind and acted like sheep.

    Yes


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88 ✭✭No_Comply


    eviltwin wrote: »
    My daughter made hers in 2003, it was a day out. We'd never been to church and never went back. I wouldn't do it now and wish we hadn't done it at all but at the time it was the done thing.
    Santa Cruz wrote: »
    In other words you were incapable of making up your own mind and acted like sheep.

    It's still the done thing.

    Too easy to sit there after the fact and say that. I don't believe for a second you wouldn't do again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    No_Comply wrote: »
    It's still the done thing.

    Too easy to sit there after the fact and say that. I don't believe for a second you wouldn't do again.

    I didn't do it again. Child number 2 wasn't baptised and won't be making his communion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,635 ✭✭✭Pumpkinseeds


    I think it's just a default thing for most parents. They have the child baptised because 'it's what you do' and there's also the party that every single person they know is invited to and expected to bring a gift. It's the same with Communion. We had an invitation from my husband's niece to attend her daughters christening in the UK last year. She hasn't been in a church since her first kid was christened and the time before that was when she was christened herself 20 odd years before that. We didn't go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,372 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    When I made my communion, I had just had a meal out and visited relatives


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,069 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    Gatling wrote: »
    The following sentence will say it all.


    "it's all about the Money "

    Nothing more and nothing less

    That is a disgrace, a total disgrace, and just what are the parents thinking of :confused:

    Many children will get confirmed in the C of I when they're fourteen/fifteen years old (no money involved), no stretch limos, no mini wedding dresses/suits, or fake tan either, just a religious ceremony which they should have a greater understanding of at that age. Surely at seven years of age the kids have little or no understanding of the religious significance of the ceremony?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭zeffabelli


    LordSutch wrote: »
    That is a disgrace, a total disgrace, and just what are the parents thinking of :confused:

    Many children will get confirmed in the C of I when they're fourteen/fifteen years old (no money involved), no stretch limos, no mini wedding dresses/suits, or fake tan either, just a religious ceremony which they should have a greater understanding of at that age. Surely at seven years of age the kids have little or no understanding of the religious significance of the ceremony?

    It's because Catholics like pageantry. Look at JFK...only Catholic president and they nicknamed it Camelot.

    Look at all the display teh Spanish do.

    Protestants aren't like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,420 ✭✭✭Lollipops23


    I was only chatting to my best mate earlier about how she's not planning on christening her kid-she's pregnant on her first now. She knows it's gonna provide all sorts of hurdles down the line for enrolling in schools etc but reckons if they cave over it, they'll be becoming part of the problem.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,298 ✭✭✭DareGod


    buck65 wrote: »
    I was talking to someone today whose daughter is having her 1st Holy Communion on Saturday, all set - dress bought, restaurant booked, party afterwards etc. etc. but her parents don't go to mass or seem to be too bothered about religion.

    Do parents get back into Church ways following the communion whilst the child is growing up or does it all go out the window again after a week or 2 (or when the money's spent)

    This isn't meant to be a religious discussion just interested in the aftermath of Communions.

    What a topic to be interested in.


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