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The exaggerated fantasy of college of constant parties and promiscuity

  • 10-05-2015 11:17PM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 65 ✭✭


    Why is Hollywood pushing this fantasy so hard? You've seen the same scenario in countless movies from American Pie to Van Wilder: your college years will be one big blur of drinking, parties, hook-ups with easy girls and experimenting with drugs. The reality is quite different in my experience. More like counting your pennies at the end of the month to pay the rent for your mold-infested shoebox apartment that you share with an illegal Chinese immigrant. And getting up super early to check if your grant came in before anyone you know sees you. Thoughts?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    The reality is quite different in my experience.

    You're doing it wrong, brah. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,957 ✭✭✭blindside88


    My experience of college was a lot of partying to be fair. Id say we were at a party 3 nights per week and drinking in the college bar during the day most days


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 65 ✭✭jonnypacket


    You're doing it wrong, brah. ;)

    I must be. Irish college girls are very cold and stand-offish (in my experience). YMMV.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,835 ✭✭✭✭cloud493


    I must be. Irish college girls are very cold and stand-offish (in my experience). YMMV.

    Or they won't go off with you on the first night, how dreadful of them ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 65 ✭✭jonnypacket


    cloud493 wrote: »
    Or they won't go off with you on the first night, how dreadful of them ;)

    Well that's how it works in the movies. So the movies lied to us, which is my point. I don't understand what's to gain from pushing a false perception of college in every single college-themed movie.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭Phil Mitchell


    3 years in college and not one party. Didnt even get the shift :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,439 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    Why is Hollywood pushing this fantasy so hard? You've seen the same scenario in countless movies from American Pie to Van Wilder: your college years will be one big blur of drinking, parties, hook-ups with easy girls and experimenting with drugs. The reality is quite different in my experience. More like counting your pennies at the end of the month to pay the rent for your mold-infested shoebox apartment that you share with an illegal Chinese immigrant. And getting up super early to check if your grant came in before anyone you know sees you. Thoughts?


    Key words highlighted there OP. You're not on your own either by any means. There are actually thousands of students like you, and then there are indeed the students who go for the whole party hardy lifestyle.

    I was somewhat a little bit from column A, a little bit from column B, came out the other end of it relatively unscathed. Gained employment in a multi-national which was almost a hotbed of sexual impropriety and all manner of debauchery... :eek:

    Fond memories of that place actually :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭Cold War Kid


    Why use America as a frame of reference for Ireland?

    And why compare movies to real life? The movies don't always claim to depict real life, certainly not comedy "frat" movies.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,835 ✭✭✭✭cloud493


    Well that's how it works in the movies. So the movies lied to us, which is my point. I don't understand what's to gain from pushing a false perception of college in every single college-themed movie.

    Cos thats creating a work of fiction. Expecting some girl to come home with you just cos you bought her a drink or two is stupid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    I went to college in galway.

    Made american movies look tame.

    No shortage of drugs or sex if you wanted either


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,443 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    3 years in college and not one party. Didnt even get the shift :(

    Accountancy?

    :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,752 ✭✭✭pablomakaveli


    I did an engineering degree so as you can guess i didn't party much either.:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,059 ✭✭✭Uriel.


    My college days had plenty of partying and ending up in very odd situations like sleeping in in a hot press during a party in a stranger's house. Ah those where the days...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 65 ✭✭jonnypacket


    3 years in college and not one party. Didnt even get the shift :(

    You're far from alone. I suspect many of the stories of keg stands and pulling several girls a week are fabricated. In my experience, most of the females in my course lived at home with their parents and spent their spare time in the library. As frigid as an iceberg and would wince at the thought of a man touching them.

    Also what's the obsession with the red cups??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    Constant is probably stretching it but it was - and presumably still is - definitely a time of sex and parties, at least relative to the other stages of life


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭thelad95


    Why is Hollywood pushing this fantasy so hard? You've seen the same scenario in countless movies from American Pie to Van Wilder: your college years will be one big blur of drinking, parties, hook-ups with easy girls and experimenting with drugs. The reality is quite different in my experience. More like counting your pennies at the end of the month to pay the rent for your mold-infested shoebox apartment that you share with an illegal Chinese immigrant. And getting up super early to check if your grant came in before anyone you know sees you. Thoughts?

    For a lot of people, it is like the stereotype especially during their Freshman year. There are quiet weeks though which don't seem to happen in the movies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,059 ✭✭✭Uriel.


    The one thing though is that in my experience, American college life may well be, at least to some degree, what it is portrayed as in the movies.

    I have friends in the US (American born) and been over plenty of times and been to loads of house parties with them and they quite literally are mad affairs, with plenty of drinking, drugs and sex. 20 to 40 people in the house, loads coming and going as the night wears on and plenty of drinking games...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 65 ✭✭jonnypacket


    Uriel. wrote: »
    The one thing though is that in my experience, American college life may well be, at least to some degree, what it is portrayed as in the movies. [\QUOTE]

    Elliot Rodger would disagree. He spent his nights in his Santa Barbara City College dorm room posting on internet forums after repeated failures to integrate into the campus culture. Go figure.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 65 ✭✭jonnypacket


    Uriel. wrote: »
    The one thing though is that in my experience, American college life may well be, at least to some degree, what it is portrayed as in the movies.

    Elliot Rodger would disagree. He spent his nights in his Santa Barbara City College dorm room posting on internet forums after repeated failures to integrate into the campus culture. Go figure.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    Why is Hollywood pushing this fantasy so hard? You've seen the same scenario in countless movies...

    Quite simple really, Animal House was a gigantic hit, so they stuck to the same kinda outline in every frat house comedy from Revenge of the Nerd to Old School. Why does Hollywood always stick to tropes and cliches so tightly? It works for 'em


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭Cold War Kid


    Elliot Rodger would disagree. He spent his nights in his Santa Barbara City College dorm room posting on internet forums after repeated failures to integrate into the campus culture. Go figure.
    Hell of an example. It doesn't happen for some people. Still happens for lots of others though.
    Happened for me, but as others have said, not "constantly". Just moreso at college than any other time.

    Probably depends on the amount of teaching hours a person's course has too.


  • Posts: 6,691 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Depends on the crowd you hang out with really. I went to plenty of parties etc..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 576 ✭✭✭Zymurgist


    When I was in college it was nightclubs twice a week and hash and Fifa tournaments the rest of the time

    Except for the three weeks before exams, Summer and repeats, then it was cursing the fact I spent so much time on the above..,,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Why is Hollywood pushing this fantasy so hard? You've seen the same scenario in countless movies from American Pie to Van Wilder: your college years will be one big blur of drinking, parties, hook-ups with easy girls and experimenting with drugs. The reality is quite different in my experience. More like counting your pennies at the end of the month to pay the rent for your mold-infested shoebox apartment that you share with an illegal Chinese immigrant. And getting up super early to check if your grant came in before anyone you know sees you. Thoughts?

    I wish I'd gone to college - because of the non-stop drinking, parties, promiscuous sex and what not. Well mostly the promiscuous sex.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,458 ✭✭✭chops018


    I went out a good bit in first year of college, second year I think I went out only two or three times, third year was my final year so I went out a decent bit again. I graduated in 2009 so I tried to get a job but ended up doing feck all for the year, went back to do a Masters in 2010-2011 and I didn't go out at all that year, head down and studied for all of it.

    I do remember some of the house party's being a bit eventful. Also the RAG weeks were mental.

    College is all what you make it. You can try have a good balance and do ok in college grades and go to some nights out. Or you can be a nerd and never go out, or you can just be a recluse and not a nerd, rather play xbox all the time, or you can be the party mad guy who always drinks and ends up repeating first year three times. I've seen them all. I like to think I was a mix, bit of a computer-film-tv show-book nerd, yet I had plenty of friends and options to go drinking and parties with (always had a place to stay there if I went drinking), and did just enough study to do ok in my course.

    College was great, but it certainly isn't like what they make it out to be in American movies.

    The country was still going ok when I was in college, and although I drove down due to being only 40 mins away, my parents said they would have paid for me to live there. Never was short of cash for any expenses due to my family, had an odd part time job here and there but never anything permanent so I relied on them a lot. My dad was on good money and my mother worked, the granny lived with us and she would give me money up and down for the college week. Not to forget when I went to college the fees were only €800 a year. I cannot believe how people go to college these days and pay €2,750 per year. I got my degree for less than a years college fees.

    Just to add, my family were (and still aren't) rich, but my dad got good money on the buildings, house was paid for etc. So did alright out of it I suppose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    I must be. Irish college girls are very cold and stand-offish (in my experience). YMMV.

    Jaysus, that is literally the exact opposite of my experience. My college experience has involved sessions which went on longer than entire semesters. :D

    I'm studying music so college social life revolves around non-stop gigs, with the predrink parties and after parties they entail. The off license, Lidl and take-aways in Dolphin's Barn has probably never and will probably never see as much business as we've given them over the last four years ;)

    As for the women in my course, they're some of the most fun people you'll ever meet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Zymurgist wrote: »
    When I was in college it was nightclubs twice a week and hash and Fifa tournaments the rest of the time

    Except for the three weeks before exams, Summer and repeats, then it was cursing the fact I spent so much time on the above..,,

    Now that many nightclubs have become so outrageously overpriced and over-bounced, house parties have taken over. The nights when we just stay in someone's gaff and have the absolute bants all night until we KO are, in my view, far more fun. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭Cold War Kid


    I don't believe for one second that "all" the girls are "frigid".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭Adamantium


    It's a monday night OP, get off the computer, unlock the door and join the party outside your door.


    If your posting from Galway, this will almost certainly be the case


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭JonEBGud


    The grand tour might change your way of thinking.


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