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Super XV 2015 General Discussion Thread

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭Swiwi.


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    Buckman has been very solid at centre in his two games, quite good even. Not bad for a winger. Good to see hardie on the bench as well.

    I thin last week could have been a watershed for the blues and they could follow it up with another victory this week

    I reckon you need 3 more victories syd to make the top 6. It's a dream getting the Lions, Cheetahs, and Force as the away games. You've then got the Chiefs at home, the Canes away, and the Blues away. 2 wins on the road overseas, and the Blues away should do it. I'd even rate the Highlanders a very good chance to beat the Chiefs in Dunedin.

    Dream final for me is Canes vs Landers in perfect weather conditions. Would be something else.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭Swiwi.


    Good night sweet princes, and thanks for the memories. May your last appearances on earthquake shaken soil be winning ones!

    (I won't remember you for playing in the 12 and 20 shirts though...)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,599 ✭✭✭matthew8


    Ladies and gentlemen the 2015 Queensland Reds. Some of the worst defending I've ever seen, but wow fair play to Whitelock to go 60.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,471 ✭✭✭Kiwi_knock


    Only just turned on the game, but what a try by Whitelock.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,025 ✭✭✭skippymac6


    Kiwi_knock wrote: »
    Only just turned on the game, but what a try by Whitelock.

    Unreal try. He beat about three reds players before turning on the after burners and stepping the fullback before having the gas to get to the whitewash. Brilliant effort but the reds are woeful defensively. They have to be the worst team in the comp. This should be exhibition stuff now for a send off for McCaw and Carter.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,599 ✭✭✭matthew8


    Crusaders absolutely running riot. Still doubt they'll be able to do anything like this at the Brumbies and Waratahs but well done anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,471 ✭✭✭Kiwi_knock


    Tackling masterpiece by the Reds


  • Subscribers, Paid Member Posts: 43,828 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    jesus, crusdaders might hit 70 points here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,971 ✭✭✭SuprSi


    Important win for the Cruasders


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,599 ✭✭✭matthew8


    Try of the season from the Blues, unbelievable. They've butchered 3 from 1 metre out but that was awesome.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,471 ✭✭✭Kiwi_knock


    A dream prop try, great quick thinking by Leafa and Smith


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,632 ✭✭✭ssaye2




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,471 ✭✭✭Kiwi_knock


    Great bonus point win for the Rebels, keeps their hopes of a Wildcard alive. They are hitting form at the right time, especially with the Brumbies struggling for consistency.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,557 ✭✭✭sydneybound


    Kiwi_knock wrote: »
    Great bonus point win for the Rebels, keeps their hopes of a Wildcard alive. They are hitting form at the right time, especially with the Brumbies struggling for consistency.

    Their doing really well this year. Great that Melbourne has a decent team they can fully get behind.

    People are always banging on about how Australia rugby is down in the doldrums but with now the Rebels, current champs the tahs and the brumbies doing well it seems to be on an upward curve.

    I think with a fit Pocock back Australia will top the group over England and Wales. They really need to win the bledisloe cup which they haven't done since 2002.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,180 ✭✭✭Jacovs


    Naka Drotske quit as Cheetahs coach, and Os du Randt quit as forwards coach too, effective end of the super rugby season. Naka seems to be retiring from rugby, and Os got an offer abroad. Nake also wrote the fans an open letter:

    “It is with great thankfulness that I wish to inform you today that this current Super 15 will be my last as coach of the Cheetahs.

    “Life is all about opportunities and in March of this year I came along an exceptional business opportunity which I could not turn down. I am partner of a Company who obtained the exclusive manufacturing and distribution rights in Africa of a very unique fire retardant and fire extinguishing product.

    “The products are the most technical advanced fire products in the world and are currently patent pending in the USA. We are busy setting up a plant in South Africa and will produce the products locally and will also export worldwide. We believe that this product will change the way fires were prevented and extinguished in the past.

    “I have already, after I’ve signed these contracts in April informed Mr Ryno Opperman the chairman of the Cheetahs that this Super 15 will be my last as coach of the Cheetahs.

    “It is not ideal to make this announcement in the middle of the current Super 15 season but unfortunately some of the information leaked to the media and the wrong message based on sensation and lies were sent out to the public. This left us with no choice but to make the announcement as early as possible with the correct facts.

    “The advantage of the announcement now is it will give the new coach more than enough time to contract his own players for next year and also to sign more players for the upcoming 2015 Currie cup.

    “I apologise to my players and management that I could not discuss the situation with them first and that they have to learn about this in the media. We are currently in a bye week and I will explain the situation to them in person when we get together on Monday.

    “I’ve been involved in rugby since I can remember and would like to stay involved with the game in some way. I currently consider the option of becoming a player agent to represent players in South Africa.

    “In my time as coach of the Cheetahs I have represented the Cheetahs in negotiating more than 300 players’ contracts with all different agents in South Africa. I know the system and this comes naturally to me. I also know all the CEOs and coaches of other franchises in South Africa in person and as a former Super 15 coach I believe they will trust my opinion on the quality of different players.

    “I feel there is huge opportunity here as especially younger players often get the wrong advice and make wrong choices with their careers as professional rugby players.

    “I would like to thank the Cheetahs. With the exemption of three years when I played in the UK I have been involved with Cheetah rugby since 1988 as a Craven Week player.

    Highlights were the 2005 Currie Cup win at Loftus against a very good Bulls side as well as making the play offs of the Super 15 competition in 2013 for the first and only time in the history of Cheetahs rugby.

    “I have no regrets and am thankful to the Cheetahs and rugby for what it meant to me. As coach I have learnt valuable lessons of people which will help me a lot in the business world.

    “I would have liked to have the opportunity to compete with the same squad of players and the same budget as other franchises over a five-year term. The fact of the matter is this was not meant to be.

    “My wish for the future of Cheetahs rugby would be that the public will support the new coach and management team. Super 15 is a very tough competition where a franchise like the Cheetahs have to compete with limited resources. In order for them to be competitive, the supporters, players, management and board of directors all have to support each other and work in the same direction.

    “I would like to thank my management team for all the hard work the last nine years. Thank you that we could support each other in good and bad times.

    “Lastly I would like to thank my wife Marzanne for all the support. I truly believe that coaching is the second toughest job in the world. The toughest job is without a doubt being the wife of a professional rugby coach. Thank you for supporting me in good and bad results on the rugby field.

    “Good luck to Cheetah rugby and the new coach. My advice to him would be to take criticism from who it comes. Since I was a little boy one of my biggest heroes was Dr Danie Craven. One of his legendary sayings was ‘the more I see of people the more I love my dog’ I could never really understand the true meaning of this, until I started coaching. My immediate advice to the new coach would therefore be, get a dog. (-:

    “Thank you very much.”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,471 ✭✭✭Kiwi_knock


    That is a bizarre statement. Part product placement, and part showcasing his CV for a job as an agent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    Utterly bizarre. It's masked as an open letter of thanks best wishes to the fans and the team but is pretty much entirely self serving and rambling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 240 ✭✭stl.ire


    Just watched the crusaders game. Nice way for McCaw and Carter to (probably) say goodbye to Canterbury.
    Don't know what the Reds did to Whitelock for him to upset him so much!

    Good win for the Rebels. They're close to being a properly good side. Only saw the highlights but 17 turnovers? Is that stat real? Must have been pretty poor stuff by the Blues back row.

    That Drotske statement is weird but then so are the rumours Kirwan's getting an extension!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,180 ✭✭✭Jacovs


    Seems the Cheetahs backline coach Hawies Fourie is also on the way out. He wont be staying with the cheetahs for the currie cup, going back to Griquas, and has to negotiate with the new Cheetahs coach if he wants to stay on for Super Rugby after his contract expires the end of this season.
    Thats their head, forwards and backline coaches all gone.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,210 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Is not often that a craven, weak player would go on to have such a career in the game.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,971 ✭✭✭SuprSi


    Pathetic defending from Pieterson for that try, absolutely pathetic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 240 ✭✭stl.ire


    Good job ref! This game is finally going to form.
    Sharks came out well - going after the Canes up front - but the Canes have 2 nice trys and finally the ref gives a yellow for the Sharks 3rd(!) high tackle.
    Lets keep this up!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭Swiwi.


    stl.ire wrote: »
    Good job ref! This game is finally going to form.
    Sharks came out well - going after the Canes up front - but the Canes have 2 nice trys and finally the ref gives a yellow for the Sharks 3rd(!) high tackle.
    Lets keep this up!

    Im not even a Canes fan but they are compulsory viewing this season, their back line is far and away the best in world club rugby imo, and now that they have a decent enough pack they can go far. Front five is still their Achilles heel but much less than in previous seasons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 240 ✭✭stl.ire


    Swiwi. wrote: »
    Im not even a Canes fan but they are compulsory viewing this season, their back line is far and away the best in world club rugby imo, and now that they have a decent enough pack they can go far. Front five is still their Achilles heel but much less than in previous seasons.

    Yeah, the fact their attack is built on going 100mph is brilliant. With the likes of Savea, Barrett, Nonu and Milner Skudder I guess the thinking is why not?
    The pack is definitely a concern though. They kind of cover their breakdown weaknesses by just not contesting there at all and focusing on getting as many guys in the defensive line as possible. As we saw against Tahs, if a good breakdown team really targets them there they struggle.

    The Sharks are still in this game and are troubling the Canes a little up front but they are a mess discipline wise and if the Canes keep playing the ball wide they should have enough. Marshall is having a pretty good game which is encouraging.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,971 ✭✭✭SuprSi


    Wow Bismarck!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,971 ✭✭✭SuprSi


    What a try by the Sharks!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭Swiwi.


    This is the best the Sharks have played all season I reckon. Game on here. Both sides generally defending pretty well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 240 ✭✭stl.ire


    Sharks are playing well but the ref is allowing all kinds of things at the ruck. Hands are everywhere and the Smiley is getting impeded almost every time he goes to pass. Canes have a real test here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭Swiwi.


    Broadhurst is an outside chance at a NZ call up I reckon. Whitelock, Retallick and Tuipolotou are certainties but neither Romano nor Bird has been impressive for the Crusaders. Thrush will probably get the nod though I suppose.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,971 ✭✭✭SuprSi


    Is Milner-Scudder in the AB's squad?


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