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DCM 2016: Leath maith tús na hoibre

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭kit3


    Had to search a bit to find this, it's so long since I updated !

    Wed 1st Apr Lunchtime run on the canal - 5.2 miles in 45.30

    Fri 3rd Apr Was in Cork with the kids visiting my Dad but sneaked out for a quick 30 min run - 3.5 miles

    Sat 4th Apr - Same as Fri before hitting the road back to Dublin - 3.5 miles in 30 mins

    Mon 6th Apr - Headed to Achill. Had hoped to get out for a run this evening when I landed but himself ran off fishing (tide was right and he came back with his first sea trout of the season which fed us all on Tuesday so was forgiven). The kids were so excited to be there again that they wanted to go everywhere & do everything at once. Hadn't the heart to refuse !

    Tues 7th Apr - Got it into my head that it would be a good idea to run some of the hills seeing as I was in Achill - not such a good idea as it turned out. For anyone that knows Achill I headed from Dooagh towards Keem bay with the intention of going all the way to the beach & back. Quite a climb although I don't have a garmin so don't have any stats on it. Ran ok for about 10 mins but had to stop every 2 minutes or so after that on the way up to catch my breath. Probably a good thing I didn't have a hrm or it would have gone mad. By the time I reached the top and was looking at the downhill into the beach my calfs were screaming & I knew that if I continued the climb back out was worse than what I'd already done. Decided to cut my losses & run back down the way I came. Just 3 miles in 31.25. Lessons learnt here - I did this early in the morning & was straight into the climb. Reckon I'd have fared a bit better if I'd had a warmup on the flat. I realised that most of my runs are on the flat so will have to mix it up a bit.:(

    Wed 8th Apr - 3.4 miles in 30 minutes around the sandybanks in Keel (grass covered area just behind the beach). Unfortunately the tide was in & the beach was not available to me (one of my favourite places to run :)). Legs feeling the effects of yesterday.

    Thurs 9th Apr - handy 58 minutes in the sandybanks again - approximately 6.2 miles

    Sat 11 Apr - had to leave a car back to Navan road so ran from there with a small loop in the Phoenix park though Chapelizod & Ballyfermot & along the canal to home. Legs protested at that hill in Ballyfermot (near the Fás building) as if to say 'you're not doing that to us again' but it was short & I got over it. Approx 8 miles in 1.25 door to door (forgot the watch so time includes a few stops at traffic lights but not too many). Felt tired towards the end but realised that I'd been up since 7.30 & had not eaten & I started running at 12.40 so that would probably account for that.

    Mon 13 Apr - am - cycle to work - 6.5 miles
    Lunchtime - canal run - felt wrecked on this one for some reason. 5.2 miles in 45.17

    pm - will be cycling home in a while 6.5 miles


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭kit3


    Tues - mad busy day between work & home saw me on the go from 6.30 till almost midnight - no opportunity to run

    Wed am - run to work - took this at a fairly handy pace as I was running home again later that day. Messed up with the watch on one section so had no official time but think I just dipped under the hour. Pleased with this as my easy pace for this run when I started running to work back in December would have been around 1.05/1.06 so seeing a bit of an improvement I think - 6.5 miles in 59-60 mins or so

    Wed pm - run home from work - although the canal seems fairly flat there are a few drags on the way home & the wind always seems to be against me. Happy with how this went as it was my first double day in a while - 6.5 miles in 1.01

    Thurs - worked from home this morning and nipped down to see my daughter running in a race for the school. Great initiative from South Dublin County Council who hold cross country races for all the schools in their area (Clondalkin, Tallaght, Lucan & North Clondalkin) & then bring them all together for a finals day. This is usually held at the track in Tallaght but they've outgrown that this year with 53 schools involved. Thurs was just the local schools. Great weather for it & great atmosphere with the top ten kids in each race getting points for their school.

    Thurs lunchtime - cycle to work - 6.5 miles

    Thurs pm - run home - took it very handy on this one as the legs were tired from Wed & the cycle in - 6.5 miles in 1.03

    Fri am - run to work - nothing much to report on this one except it's a nice way to start the day - 6.5 miles in 1.02

    Fri pm - cycle home - had to detour to avoid a mad swan who was perched in the middle of the canal path by Bluebell & was attacking anything that tried to go by it. It nearly got a cyclist coming towards me as I approached - jumped right up at him & nearly knocked him off the bike - he had to fend it off with the bike. I'm a chicken & went around :o- approx 7 miles

    Sat - short run on a new tarmac track around the GAA pitch while I was waiting for my daughter's camogie match to start. Legs felt surprisingly good & I would have loved to keep going but ran out of time - about 3 miles in 27 minutes.

    Not sure if I'll get out tomorrow as himself is off fishing overnight & I'm on match duty. Will see how the energy levels are when he gets back.

    Happy enough with this week 34.2 miles. The three weeks I was sick after Donadea knocked me back but feel I am finally starting to build up a bit again. Will have to get something a bit longer in next week & definately need to be running to work somedays to have a chance of getting any kind of mileage in.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,742 ✭✭✭ultraman1


    kit3 wrote: »

    Not sure if I'll get out tomorrow as himself is off fishing overnight .

    Nice week..........but wat sort of a man leaves his burd at home while he plays with his rod .........(disregard unless he a full time fisherman and fishes with annette)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭kit3


    ultraman1 wrote: »
    Nice week..........but wat sort of a man leaves his burd at home while he plays with his rod .........(disregard unless he a full time fisherman and fishes with annette)

    It gets worse - he's only playing with annette but his full time job involves playing with a flute ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭kit3


    monday am Cycle to work 6.5 miles. Had hoped to get out at lunchtime but meeting over-ran so no time :(

    Monday pm Cycle home (including detour to avoid that mad swan again - always seems to happen when I'm tight for time) approx 7 miles

    Monday pm Had to bring my daughter to Tallaght for her running session so threw on the gear to run out that direction while I was waiting for her. Headed towards some fields behind the club, spotted a football pitch & thought I'd give Ecoli's diagonals a go. Was doing this from memory (read it a few months back) & thought it was 10/12 diagonals - it should have been 10/12 minutes at 5k pace. Did 15 minutes warm up, 12 diagonals jogging the side of the pitch each time as recovery & 15 minutes cool down.

    First time doing something like this (feel all growed-up :cool:) - can feel the effect in my glutes tonight but enjoyed the change :)

    Total I reckon about 5 miles in 43 mins (I don't possess a garmin so unless it can be mapped the distance will be approximate :o


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    kit3 wrote: »
    Fri pm - cycle home - had to detour to avoid a mad swan who was perched in the middle of the canal path by Bluebell & was attacking anything that tried to go by it. It nearly got a cyclist coming towards me as I approached - jumped right up at him & nearly knocked him off the bike - he had to fend it off with the bike. I'm a chicken & went around :o- approx 7 miles

    Those mad swans would be a regular thing when I was living out in Parkwest. They would always be in the stretch of the canal between Parkwest and Clondalkin. I am a chicken too and they caused me to run a few extra miles in my day!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭kit3


    menoscemo wrote: »
    Those mad swans would be a regular thing when I was living out in Parkwest. They would always be in the stretch of the canal between Parkwest and Clondalkin. I am a chicken too and they caused me to run a few extra miles in my day!!

    There's one near Bluebell that's guarding a nest with 5 eggs in it. Seems to be no problem in the morning but it's in the middle of the path each evening & is actively going for people !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,916 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Try the Royal Canal sometime. Our swans are protective but not too aggressive (usually). :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭kit3


    Murph_D wrote: »
    Try the Royal Canal sometime. Our swans are protective but not too aggressive (usually). :)

    Sounds like you have more refined swans there Murph - might add a few miles to my commute though (Clondalkin to town) :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,196 ✭✭✭PaulieC


    Northside swans being more refined than southside swans ? Seems suspicious.

    Nice session yesterday, even if it was accidental...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭kit3


    PaulieC wrote: »
    Northside swans being more refined than southside swans ? Seems suspicious.

    Nice session yesterday, even if it was accidental...

    Looking at it, it was probably just a bit longer than it should have been - back to the 'continuity thread' for me - will read it properly beforehand next time :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭kit3


    Time to catch up !

    Tuesday - handy 3 miles in 27.xx

    Wednesday - Had planned to run in & out of work but was exhausted when I got up for some reason. Ended up cycling in & out and no run - 6.5 miles each way.

    Thursday - am - cycle to work - 6.5 miles
    - pm - run home - was tired throughout & glad when I was stopped at traffic lights so was surprised to see 1.00.46 on the watch.

    Friday - am - run to work - 6.5 miles - felt strong throughout & was able to maintain a steady controlled pace. Delighted to see 57.39 on the watch considering that this used to take me 1.05/1.06 back in January.
    - pm - cycle home

    Saturday - easy 4 miles - no watch

    Sunday - early run in the Phoenix Park - had intended this to be a long one but copped on two miles in that I would be short on time (kids matches etc) and just did 5 miles instead. Glorious morning in the park - had to clear frost from the car before I could drive !

    Monday - am - cycle to work

    Lunchtime - usual canal run - felt nice & strong on this - 5.2 miles in 41.04. Think the best I've done on this route before is 41.52 so going in the right direction.

    - pm - will be cycling home in a while.

    Some observations - 30 miles last week - a little less than the week before but not by much. Definitely feel that the consistency is paying dividends but need to get the finger out & do a long run one of these days - seem to have a bit of a mental block about this at the moment for some reason :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 928 ✭✭✭TRR_the_turd


    Why drive to the Phoenix park for LSR on a Sunday if stuck for time, when you could hit your local park? Run to it. You'd get 4-5 miles around the perimeter minimum. Then run home. Must take you 30 minutes travel time all in, getting to and from the Phoenix park.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭kit3


    Why drive to the Phoenix park for LSR on a Sunday if stuck for time, when you could hit your local park? Run to it. You'd get 4-5 miles around the perimeter minimum. Then run home. Must take you 30 minutes travel time all in, getting to and from the Phoenix park.

    I know what you are saying makes sense - thing was it was too early & the local park would have been deserted at that time (about 7.30). I'm a bit nervous of it at that time. I generally stick to the main parts of the Phoenix Park at that time where there is passing traffic. Having said that, it was poor planning on my part - kinda copped that when I landed in the park & could have had 2/3 miles in :o

    Edit- the more I think about it you're right. Need to make better use of limited time. Thanks :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭kit3


    In the spirit of making the most of any available time I managed to get out early this morning for a short slow run along the canal. Beautiful bright morning. Legs fairly dead to begin with - a combination of a slightly faster than normal run at lunchtime yesterday & a ridiculous cycle home against a strong wind (that nearly killed me - would far rather have been running), but they had improved by the time I finished.

    3.5 miles in 33.99 :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭kit3


    Wednesday am - run to work - 6.5 miles in 1.00.46 - can't really remember much about this one - was careful not to 'race myself' as this was the first of two

    Wednesday pm - run home into the wind all the way - 6.5 miles in 1.07

    Thursday - enforced rest day - home with sick kiddie

    Friday am - cycle to work 6.5 miles

    Friday lunchtime - short run along the canal - opposite direction to usual - 4 miles in 37.25

    Friday pm - cycle home - 6.5 miles - dodgy swan at it again but I came along just as someone was using their bike as a shield to get it back in the water do I got past !

    Saturday - early morning wet & windy run around Clondalkin - headed from the house but had to avoid the park (it was early & himself reckons it would be dodgy on my own at this stage too ). Happy with this one, had been finding it mentally hard to do anything remotely resembling a long run recently for some reason - did 10 miles in 1.41 - nice & handy and could have kept on going. This one reminded me that I like these runs once I clear the time to do them (if that makes sense). Soaked to the skin when I got back :)

    Rest day tomorrow - got a slight niggle in my calf today that was ok when I stretched it out but want to rest it tomorrow to be sure (fingers crossed !)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    Hey Kit,
    I see you have been asking for feedback so here goes!! It's very hard to give you feedback as It's difficult to know where you are and where you want to go.

    My advice is to firstly do a race to get a baseline. Then we can tell you if you are doing your runs too fast or too slow, otherwise we are just guessing.
    Secondly pick a goal race somewhere down the line and pick a goal time based on your first race (aim to improve) then follow a proper structured plan to get there.

    So, when are you racing?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,742 ✭✭✭ultraman1


    [quote="menoscemo;95352669"


    So, when are you racing?[/quote]
    30th may donadea forest...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭kit3


    ultraman1 wrote: »
    30th may donadea forest...

    Did you not have enough of waiting for me in February :eek:

    Be back to you later Meno - kiddie stuff going on here :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭kit3


    menoscemo wrote: »
    Hey Kit,
    I see you have been asking for feedback so here goes!! It's very hard to give you feedback as It's difficult to know where you are and where you want to go.

    My advice is to firstly do a race to get a baseline. Then we can tell you if you are doing your runs too fast or too slow, otherwise we are just guessing.
    Secondly pick a goal race somewhere down the line and pick a goal time based on your first race (aim to improve) then follow a proper structured plan to get there.

    So, when are you racing?

    Hey Meno, yeah can see what you mean - finding it hard to see where I should be myself. My goal later this year is DCM. PB is 4.29 so will be looking to go faster than that, ideally as close to 4 as possible but don't know what's realistic yet. Had originally hoped to do the Achill half in early July but it's the mil's 80th birthday that weekend so that's out. Would like to do a 10k in June - maybe Dunshaughlin if I can fit it in around family stuff although not set in that if I come across one that suits better time wise. Have never done a 10k !

    Out of Dublin for most of July & August so it makes it a bit difficult to settle on races. Will do the race series half in Sept too.

    Can totally see what you mean, though in needing to see where I am now.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    You've got loads of time between now and DCM so I would concentrate on getting your 5-10k time down over the next few months.
    Even if it's only doing a parkrun in a few weeks then giving yourself 6-8 weeks to improve the time.

    As long as you are running consistently (which you are) no need to get specific about DCM until about 10-12 weeks before it IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭kit3


    menoscemo wrote: »
    You've got loads of time between now and DCM so I would concentrate on getting your 5-10k time down over the next few months.
    Even if it's only doing a parkrun in a few weeks then giving yourself 6-8 weeks to improve the time.

    As long as you are running consistently (which you are) no need to get specific about DCM until about 10-12 weeks before it IMO.

    Thanks - I've never actually done a 5k or a 10k so that would be entirely new territory :)

    If I was to do as you suggest what type of weekly mileage should I be aiming for ? Aiming for mid 30's atm


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,369 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    Not sure where you live but you seem to be a bit nervous of running in parks early kit? Not sure if you have had bad experiences in the past but I wouldn't worry, the scumbags don't tend to be out early. I've been training earlier and earlier but often would have been running on deserted streets and a park (in Dundrum) at 7am, in the dark and never felt in any way nervous - don't bring music so you can hear noises and just relax. In all honesty, anything could happen at any time of the day.

    If I were you, I'd bring my bike out some morning (or a dog if you have one) and visit the local parks you could run in. You'll see that it's fine and safe and there'll be a lot more walkers and runners out there than you'd expect at stupid o'clock.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    kit3 wrote: »
    Thanks - I've never actually done a 5k or a 10k so that would be entirely new territory :)

    If I was to do as you suggest what type of weekly mileage should I be aiming for ? Aiming for mid 30's atm

    That mileage is fine, just maybe need a bit more structure.
    You can still get a good session into your runs into work/home from work. You don't have to do session on the track, canal path is fine!!

    Just do a parkrun for example, get a time and give yourself x number of weeks to improve it. General structure would be 1 tempo run, 1 interval session/fartlek per week and the rest easy runs. But as I say it's hard to go anywhere until we know what time you can do. Would it be possible to nip up to Griffeen/Tymon one saturday soon to get a parkrun time?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 928 ✭✭✭TRR_the_turd


    Not sure where you live but you seem to be a bit nervous of running in parks early kit? Not sure if you have had bad experiences in the past but I wouldn't worry, the scumbags don't tend to be out early. I've been training earlier and earlier but often would have been running on deserted streets and a park (in Dundrum) at 7am, in the dark and never felt in any way nervous - don't bring music so you can hear noises and just relax. In all honesty, anything could happen at any time of the day.

    If I were you, I'd bring my bike out some morning (or a dog if you have one) and visit the local parks you could run in. You'll see that it's fine and safe and there'll be a lot more walkers and runners out there than you'd expect at stupid o'clock.

    She lives close to my local park. All women are on high alert in the area ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭kit3


    Not sure where you live but you seem to be a bit nervous of running in parks early kit? Not sure if you have had bad experiences in the past but I wouldn't worry, the scumbags don't tend to be out early. I've been training earlier and earlier but often would have been running on deserted streets and a park (in Dundrum) at 7am, in the dark and never felt in any way nervous - don't bring music so you can hear noises and just relax. In all honesty, anything could happen at any time of the day.

    If I were you, I'd bring my bike out some morning (or a dog if you have one) and visit the local parks you could run in. You'll see that it's fine and safe and there'll be a lot more walkers and runners out there than you'd expect at stupid o'clock.

    I'm in Clondalkin & would be wary of Corkagh park early - great idea though to check it out on the bike. Wouldn't have the same issue with the Phoenix park though because there is passing traffic. Takes a bit of time to drive there though so will either start running there or get up earlier !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭kit3


    menoscemo wrote: »
    That mileage is fine, just maybe need a bit more structure.
    You can still get a good session into your runs into work/home from work. You don't have to do session on the track, canal path is fine!!

    Just do a parkrun for example, get a time and give yourself x number of weeks to improve it. General structure would be 1 tempo run, 1 interval session/fartlek per week and the rest easy runs. But as I say it's hard to go anywhere until we know what time you can do. Would it be possible to nip up to Griffeen/Tymon one saturday soon to get a parkrun time?

    A parkrun would be perfect but have to bring my daughter swimming for 8.15 on a Saturday so that kinda messes that up - there's an odd weekend that that doesn't happen though so will try to get an opportunity


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭kit3


    She lives close to my local park. All women are on high alert in the area ;)

    Yeah, we heard there was a self confessed dirty bastard running around there ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,102 ✭✭✭Pacing Mule


    Any interest in doing the Bob Heffernan 5k in Enfield in two weeks ? It's on the Tuesday evening.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭kit3


    Any interest in doing the Bob Heffernan 5k in Enfield in two weeks ? It's on the Tuesday evening.

    Ordinarily I'd say yes but the youngest is making her communion the following Saturday so I'd say we might be up the walls -party in the house seems to necessitate the paint brushes coming out that week etc :rolleyes: Will keep it in mind though - thanks


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