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Cigarette Run to Eastern Europe, where to go?

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  • #52
    lord lucan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭lord lucan


    larryolaoi wrote: »
    Better off going electronic, save your lungs

    No need for the lecture, this forum is for smokers to escape the usual finger wagging and health nazis.


  • #53
    BoJack Horseman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,248 ✭✭✭✭BoJack Horseman


    lord lucan wrote: »
    nazis.

    Suggesting better alternatives doesn't make one a Nazi.

    Its a remarkably ignorant comparison to make.


  • #54
    Faith+1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,674 ✭✭✭Faith+1


    BoJack Horseman wrote: »
    Suggesting better alternatives doesn't make one a Nazi.

    Its a remarkably ignorant comparison to make.

    It's a figure of speech.


  • #55
    BoJack Horseman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,248 ✭✭✭✭BoJack Horseman


    Faith+1 wrote: »
    It's a figure of speech.

    Aah.... OK.

    Calling people genocidal fascists isn't a common phrase down my way!


  • #56
    lord lucan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭lord lucan


    BoJack Horseman wrote: »
    Suggesting better alternatives doesn't make one a Nazi.

    Its a remarkably ignorant comparison to make.

    But this is not the forum for suggesting better alternatives, there's other forums for that. We keep this forum deliberately free of holier than thou types/nazis or whatever phraseology you care to use.


  • #57
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Just an update on this. Flew into Tallin last week and bought the limit of 3,200 costing a total of €440. (2.75 a pack) Brand was Chesterfield Blue which I'm fine with. The same thing here would have cost me close on €1400 so it was a good saving given I got return flights for just over €80 and a hotel there was pretty cheap.

    Anyway I'm wondering does anyone know the EU limit for rolling tobacco for personal use? A mate is keen to do a similar trip


  • #58
    Faith+1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,674 ✭✭✭Faith+1


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Just an update on this. Flew into Tallin last week and bought the limit of 3,200 costing a total of €440. (2.75 a pack) Brand was Chesterfield Blue which I'm fine with. The same thing here would have cost me close on €1400 so it was a good saving given I got return flights for just over €80 and a hotel there was pretty cheap.

    Anyway I'm wondering does anyone know the EU limit for rolling tobacco for personal use? A mate is keen to do a similar trip

    Any hassle in the airport?


  • #59
    TheMilkyPirate
    Registered Users Posts: 6,017 ✭✭✭TheMilkyPirate


    I'm going to prague in August how many can I bring back legally?

    Also I go to the canaries every year I was under the impression I could only bring back 200 is that correct?


  • #60
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Faith+1 wrote: »
    Any hassle in the airport?

    Yes and no. I landed at 11.30pm Friday night thinking that Customs would be deserted- instead there was two sniffer dogs and about 8 Customs staff in high vis. The main reason they appeared to be there was because just before my flight a flight had landed from Chisneau in Moldova, which is outside the EU obviously. As I walked through they had at least 6 people off that flight and were checking their bags, one woman had 1000+ cigarettes on the desk which seemed to be confiscated. I strolled through without problems, I had all the same brand to prove they were for personal use and a receipt to prove EU taxes were paid so even if I was stopped I was covered.


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  • #61
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    TheMilkyPirate wrote: »
    I'm going to prague in August how many can I bring back legally?

    Also I go to the canaries every year I was under the impression I could only bring back 200 is that correct?

    The Canaries are duty free islands so the 200 limit is correct. Czech Rep is a full EU member so the limit is 3200 for personal use as they are not on the list quoted from a post above this one

    Bulgaria
    Croatia
    Hungary
    Latvia
    Lithuania
    Romania


  • #62
    Duiske
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭Duiske


    Muahahaha wrote: »

    Anyway I'm wondering does anyone know the EU limit for rolling tobacco for personal use? A mate is keen to do a similar trip

    Would be interested in the answer to this as well. Thinking about a weekend away soon and combining break/tobacco run.


  • #63
    BeerNut
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,914 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    does anyone know the EU limit for rolling tobacco for personal use?
    The Irish Revenue guideline is 1kg tobacco and 800 cigarettes. This bar-room lawyer had it at 3kg tobacco and 3,200 cigarettes. In reality there is no set limit as such, just varying degrees of whether the Customs officer who stops you believes that you're not a smuggler.

    Less than 1kg of tobacco is the only point where you're guaranteed no hassle.

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  • #64
    relax carry on
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭relax carry on


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    The Canaries are duty free islands so the 200 limit is correct. Czech Rep is a full EU member so the limit is 3200 for personal use as they are not on the list quoted from a post above this one

    Bulgaria
    Croatia
    Hungary
    Latvia
    Lithuania
    Romania

    Not sure where the 3200 is coming from as the Revenue website states 800.

    http://www.revenue.ie/en/customs/leaflets/pn1878.html


  • #65
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    relax carry on wrote: »
    Not sure where the 3200 is coming from as the Revenue website states 800.

    http://www.revenue.ie/en/customs/leaflets/pn1878.html

    Revenue have been flogging that line for a few years now, but they admitted in front of an Oireachtas Committee a few years back that the real limit is 3200- they said thats the guidance they received from the EU. The Indo ran an article on it at the time but it no longer seems to be on their site.


  • #66
    relax carry on
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭relax carry on


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Revenue have been flogging that line for a few years now, but they admitted in front of an Oireachtas Committee a few years back that the real limit is 3200- they said thats the guidance they received from the EU. The Indo ran an article on it at the time but it no longer seems to be on their site.

    Wonder has anyone used that line with a customs officer when they were stopped? Must have a look on some EU sites for that 3200 figure.

    Edit, haven't found the 3200 but an EU site states 800 also.

    http://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/travel/carry/alcohol-tobacco-cash/index_en.htm

    Here's another.

    http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/common/travellers/within_eu/index_en.htm


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  • #67
    Grab All Association
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,921 ✭✭✭Grab All Association


    relax carry on wrote: »
    Wonder has anyone used that line with a customs officer when they were stopped? Must have a look on some EU sites for that 3200 figure.

    Edit, haven't found the 3200 but an EU site states 800 also.

    http://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/travel/carry/alcohol-tobacco-cash/index_en.htm

    Here's another.

    http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/common/travellers/within_eu/index_en.htm

    Listen to BeerNut. You can bring in as many cigarettes as you want. The onus is on Revenue to prove you're a smuggler. If Revenue can't prove this and seize your cigarettes for the hell of it then I'm pretty sure you can pursue them through the courts.
    BeerNut wrote: »
    The Irish Revenue guideline is 1kg tobacco and 800 cigarettes. This bar-room lawyer had it at 3kg tobacco and 3,200 cigarettes. In reality there is no set limit as such, just varying degrees of whether the Customs officer who stops you believes that you're not a smuggler.

    Less than 1kg of tobacco is the only point where you're guaranteed no hassle.


  • #68
    BeerNut
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,914 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    Chris___ wrote: »
    The onus is on Revenue to prove you're a smuggler.
    It's not, though. They can just decide it and seize your goods. What Revenue might have said at an Oireachtas committee is fine from behind your keyboard, but I can't see it being such a persuasive argument when you're standing in front of a customs officer in the airport who keeps quoting the figures from the website at you.

    It's worth bearing in mind also that Revenue has powers which the Gardaí can only dream of. Revenue has been around a lot longer, for one thing.

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  • #69
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    That might be the case Beernut but if Revenue said it at an Oireachtas committee then surely a traveller who had cigarettes confiscated has a right of appeal to the Rights Commissioner and point out their previous guidance? AFAIK the 3200 figure is an EU one, by quoting their own 800 figure they're hoping to dupe people out of established EU norms.


  • #70
    BeerNut
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,914 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    surely a traveller who had cigarettes confiscated has a right of appeal to the Rights Commissioner and point out their previous guidance?
    Something like that, I'm sure. But you don't get to smoke your delicious cigarettes while you're jumping through those hoops. It sounds like a lot of effort, with no guarantee of success at the end.
    Muahahaha wrote: »
    AFAIK the 3200 figure is an EU one, by quoting their own 800 figure they're hoping to dupe people out of established EU norms.
    Here's the EU's page on the subject. 800 is the no-challenge mark, not 3200.

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  • #71
    daheadonu
    Registered Users Posts: 252 ✭✭daheadonu


    Hi I'm going to Croatia on Saturday.I was curious how much a carton of smokes would cost in the duty free at split airport.I found prices on a website but it didn't look like it had been updated for a while.


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  • #72
    Jakub P.
    Registered Users Posts: 40 ✭Jakub P.


    Forgive me if it's not the most proper thread to ask. I couldn't find a better one and I didn't want to start a new one.
    I'd like to buy some tobacco pipe from USA. Not much, 1/2 lb. How it works in Ireland? Is it going to be confiscated? Or is there some amount which can be bought without risk of confiscation?


  • #73
    ella23
    Registered Users Posts: 97 ✭✭ella23


    I'm not a smoker, but i remember noting in Slovakia in February that an unknown brand of cigarettes (i'm presuming local) were for sale for 2.25. A far cry from over a tenner a pack here.


  • #74
    Jakub P.
    Registered Users Posts: 40 ✭Jakub P.


    I forgot to mention I'd like to place an order in one of the online stores in USA.


  • #75
    BeerNut
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,914 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    The short answer is that buying any exciseable product by mail order is likely to be awkward. As I understand it, for buying from outside the EU, the Irish Customs will stop it, bill you for the taxes, and release it when you pay them.

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  • #76
    Jakub P.
    Registered Users Posts: 40 ✭Jakub P.


    I don't mind paying custom duties.
    In Poland for instance, you can't buy tobacco from abroad and order by mail. It may result in confiscation of goods and imposition of fine. What's worse, latest legislation has led to situation where you can't buy any tobacco products within a country for the same reason. I was wondering if Ireland has the same or similar anti-tobacco policy.


  • #77
    Russman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,914 ✭✭✭Russman


    Apologies if this is in the wrong thread, but can anyone tell me if you can buy Benson & Hedges and/or Silk Cut Purple in Bratislava ? If you can, are they the same as over here ? I've heard some people mention that eastern European cigarettes have a different taste/flavour than home ones. I'm not a smoker so I've no idea, but will be in Bratislava in the autumn and have family members who smoke.

    Thanks !

    Edit: also what sort of prices might they be in Slovakia ?


  • #78
    abarkie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭abarkie


    Russman wrote: »
    Apologies if this is in the wrong thread, but can anyone tell me if you can buy Benson & Hedges and/or Silk Cut Purple in Bratislava ? If you can, are they the same as over here ? I've heard some people mention that eastern European cigarettes have a different taste/flavour than home ones. I'm not a smoker so I've no idea, but will be in Bratislava in the autumn and have family members who smoke.

    Thanks !

    Edit: also what sort of prices might they be in Slovakia ?

    Did you find Benson & Hedges and/or Silk Cut Purple in Bratislava ?

    At the airport or in town?


  • #79
    Russman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,914 ✭✭✭Russman


    abarkie wrote: »
    Did you find Benson & Hedges and/or Silk Cut Purple in Bratislava ?

    At the airport or in town?

    The airport had Benson & Hedges but not Gold, they didn’t have Silk Cut. I wasn’t in the town, went directly to Vienna by bus where Benson & Hedges Gold were widely available but couldn’t get Silk Cut anywhere.


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