The Great Russell Brand Swindle

Saipanne · 05-05-2015 12:47PM #1

Russell Brand calls on followers to vote Labour on election day

http://gu.com/p/484j6

So, after making the case for people to abstain from voting, and selling a book to gullible idiots for a nice wedge. Brand has now jumped into bed with a mainstream party. The very kind of party he once derided for money.

So, what do his followers think of this move?

Menas · 05-05-2015 12:49PM

He is a bit of a muppet. A clever muppet, but still a muppet.

Generic Dreadhead · 05-05-2015 12:53PM

Saipanne wrote: »

So, what do his followers think of this move?

I thought the whole point of him was he did their thinking for them no?

ancapailldorcha · 05-05-2015 12:54PM

Bit late. Registration closed 2 weeks ago.

Yurt2 · 05-05-2015 12:57PM

I see he didn't like Cameron calling him a joke.

He could have saved a lot of ink and trees by just sending out a tweet 'Vote Labour' a couple of years ago.

ShowMeTheCash · 05-05-2015 01:00PM

Saipanne wrote: »

Russell Brand calls on followers to vote Labour on election day

http://gu.com/p/484j6

So, after making the case for people to abstain from voting, and selling a book to gullible idiots for a nice wedge. Brand has now jumped into bed with a mainstream party. The very kind of party he once derided for money.

So, what do his followers think of this move?

I like brand, he is funny but I think he is one of these guys that likes to think about a thing and do a brain dump around it online without perhaps letting it settle.

One of the dumbest thing's around politics is the idea that people cannot change their mind, someone says something publically 10 years ago with half the facts cannot change their mind?

I think brand is an idealist, ideally we can change the way everyone thinks and vote in the Greens for example.

But in reality it comes down to two parties.
What do you want to do, vote someone you want in? Or let someone you don't want back in.....

BoJack Horseman · 05-05-2015 01:01PM

I want to know how Matt Morgan & Mr Gee feel.

smash · 05-05-2015 01:02PM

It's very easy for brand to represent 'the working man' and tell people not to be sheep while he sits on his millions.

bjork · 05-05-2015 01:05PM

Labours recent segregated event

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/05/05/12/article-3068429-285730AC00000578-936_964x447.jpg

Russesll Brand is a knob

Saipanne · 05-05-2015 01:05PM

smash wrote: »

It's very easy for brand to represent 'the working man' and tell people not to be sheep while he sits on his millions.

And adds to his millions by selling them a lie.

I didn't like the guy before, but I thought he had principles, at least...

ancapailldorcha · 05-05-2015 01:06PM

So... he can't change his mind? Is that the point of this thread?

c_man · 05-05-2015 01:07PM

So when he came out with his initial 'Don't bother voting' interview on Newsnight, everybody booed and called him an idiot. Now he comes out and says that even though it's an imperfect system, he thinks it's worth voting to keep the Tories out. Reaction: Everybody booing and calling him an idiot. You just can't win really.

BoJack Horseman · 05-05-2015 01:08PM

bjork wrote: »

Labours recent segregated event

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/05/05/12/article-3068429-285730AC00000578-936_964x447.jpg

Russesll Brand is a knob

Where was that?
Rotherham?

bjork · 05-05-2015 01:09PM

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

Where was that?
Rotherham?

Birmingham

Egginacup · 05-05-2015 01:10PM

smash wrote: »

It's very easy for brand to represent 'the working man' and tell people not to be sheep while he sits on his millions.

Do you have to be poor to have a political opinion?
Are only the destitute qualified to bring attention to governmental malfeasance?

smash · 05-05-2015 01:12PM

Egginacup wrote: »

Do you have to be poor to have a political opinion?
Are only the destitute qualified to bring attention to governmental malfeasance?

No, but you have to have credibility. I don't think he has any!

Saipanne · 05-05-2015 01:17PM

Brand: "I've never voted, never will"

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-24648651

LOL

ShowMeTheCash · 05-05-2015 01:17PM

smash wrote: »

No, but you have to have credibility. I don't think he has any!

Credibility is a weird thing....
Nothing wrong with having whacky ideas....

I don't think the current systems works, I think he has some good points, I think however he just realises he cannot change it....

smash · 05-05-2015 01:19PM

ShowMeTheCash wrote: »

Credibility is a weird thing....
Nothing wrong with having whacky ideas....

I don't think the current systems works, I think he has some good points, I think however he just realises he cannot change it....

He might realise that he can't change it, but he'll never admit that. After all, he's making money from his campaign.

Saipanne · 05-05-2015 01:21PM

ShowMeTheCash · 05-05-2015 01:22PM

smash wrote: »

He might realise that he can't change it, but he'll never admit that. After all, he's making money from his campaign.

Savvy!

brevity · 05-05-2015 01:23PM

I'd prefer for someone to change their mind because of certain factors they weren't previously aware of rather than stick blindly to their preconceived notions.

He said don't vote because there was no one suitable to vote for. Now he feels there is so he is suggesting Labour.

Saipanne · 05-05-2015 01:25PM

brevity wrote: »

I'd prefer for someone to change their mind because of certain factors they weren't previously aware of rather than stick blindly to their preconceived notions.

He said don't vote because there was no one suitable to vote for. Now he feels there is so he is suggesting Labour.

After he sold his book.

ancapailldorcha · 05-05-2015 01:26PM

c_man wrote: »

So when he came out with his initial 'Don't bother voting' interview on Newsnight, everybody booed and called him an idiot. Now he comes out and says that even though it's an imperfect system, he thinks it's worth voting to keep the Tories out. Reaction: Everybody booing and calling him an idiot. You just can't win really.

You might enjoy these:

http://www.medialens.org/index.php/alerts/alert-archive/2014/780-russell-brand-s-revolution.html

http://www.medialens.org/index.php/alerts/alert-archive/2014/781-russell-brand-s-revolution-part-2-the-backlash.html

c_man · 05-05-2015 01:27PM

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

So... he can't change his mind? Is that the point of this thread?

It seems so.

Also worth pointing out that he endorsed Labour just in England (think Scotland's pretty much sewn up) and that Green MP/candidate who appeared on the show last week. Seems like legit case of lesser of two evils in trying to keep the Tories out. Cos let's be honest, most people here aren't actually going to look into this in any way bar what a Guardian columnist spins it into.

Huntergonzo · 05-05-2015 01:27PM

I haven't heard much of him but I've heard a bit from his followers and they genuinely seem to think that's he's some sort of profound progressive political heavy weight. But from what I've heard of him he just seems to be a bit of an arbitrary rambler who likes to use fancy words and poetic language to con people into believing he's saying something brilliant. Personally I think George Carlin and Bill Hicks were far better political comedians (even though sadly they're both dead) and even Doug Stanhope, although he plays the hopeless deadbeat role.

ShowMeTheCash · 05-05-2015 01:28PM

brevity wrote: »

I'd prefer for someone to change their mind because of certain factors they weren't previously aware of rather than stick blindly to their preconceived notions.

He said don't vote because there was no one suitable to vote for. Now he feels there is so he is suggesting Labour.

Hmm perhaps or perhaps there is still no one suitable but Labour is a lesser evil than the Tory's...

Watching this on the news the whole campaign seems to be "Don't let the Tory's back in"...

walkingshadow · 05-05-2015 01:28PM

"Paradigm"

ancapailldorcha · 05-05-2015 01:29PM

c_man wrote: »

It seems so.

Also worth pointing out that he endorsed Labour just in England (think Scotland's pretty much sewn up) and that Green MP/candidate who appeared on the show last week. Seems like legit case of lesser of two evils in trying to keep the Tories out. Cos let's be honest, most people here aren't actually going to look into this in any way bar what a Guardian columnist spins it into.

Pretty much. I'd consider the Guardian to be the lesser of several evils.

wretcheddomain · 05-05-2015 01:40PM

Brand is an unprincipled idiot who peppers every sentence with the same words: "Bankers", "Paradigm", "Disenfranchised", "Elites", "Apathy", "Privatisation", "the 1%", "Corporations", "Disillusionment", "Frustrated"...

Brand is desperate to come across as credible, with many people falsely assuming this, no doubt because they conflate his awkward articulacy with some form of non-existent intelligence. In the video with Ed Miliband, Brand repeats the claim that there's no utility in voting and he's proud of that fact.

I disbelieve, as will many people, that he suddenly saw the light on meeting Miliband. His plan in advance of that interview was to promote the Labour party, yet he continued to smuggle his 'don't vote' attitude into the interview. Brand's duplicity has terminally atrophied any credibility he would otherwise have had.

foggy_lad · 05-05-2015 01:42PM

He reminds me of Kenny Everett:) But I think the late Kenny Everett was far more intelligent and had a lot more to say that was of use or relevance to the general public. He was also far more entertaining!

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