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evolving_doors · 03-05-2015 12:34AM

endacl wrote: »

Thread reported.

:mad:

you narc.

Genuinely
..
I think the OP is on his road to recovery. Lets all get behind him and channel our positive vibes .Shower me with thanks if you agree.

The spirit of the lord commends thee to leave the OP's username. Out foul demon troll... leave his ip address and get thee back to reddit.

Chloris · 03-05-2015 12:35AM

Gebgbegb wrote:

... could ya not just chill out and find a safe or something. Why all the hate?

I hate nobody I encounter on the Internet. I harbour very few actual opinions about them. I'm so chill I could freeze lava.

Brutal Deluxe wrote:

Personally, as a poster I'd report whatever I thought should be reported. As in to me personally was worth reporting. Using the analogy of something being reported at work: I wouldn't care if John comes in ten minutes late. But if John coming in late enough and it means everyone else is having to do more than they should, then yeah, I'd report it.

I don't know if that's analogous, because that's real life. Him doing that makes everyone have to work harder. I don't really think anyone has to work hard on a forum. Maybe the moderators, but surely by reporting you're making more work for them.

bb1234567 wrote:

lol i never get PMs . Do you guys all send each other PMs? is that a thing? sexual Pms? to anonymous people, anonymously?

Only if they have a provocative name. The sluuuts. The whatever the male equivalent of sluuuts is

anncoates · 03-05-2015 12:37AM

Have probably reported only a handful or two in about 9 years on the site. Usually really bad stuff. Reporting relatively minor stuff or ratting people out because you disagree with it is pretty sad.

crockholm · 03-05-2015 12:39AM

Been called scum,paedophile,nazi and more,but I've never reported a post.Tbh,those who report posts go down in my estimation.Man up ffs.

The Backwards Man · 03-05-2015 12:42AM

crockholm wrote: »

Been called scum,paedophile,nazi and more,but I've never reported a post.Tbh,those who report posts go down in my estimation.Man up ffs.

I don't think letting bullying go unchallenged is particularly manly.

Tombi! · 03-05-2015 12:43AM

Chloris wrote: »

I don't know if that's analogous, because that's real life. Him doing that makes everyone have to work harder. I don't really think anyone has to work hard on a forum. Maybe the moderators, but surely by reporting you're making more work for them.

Maybe I explained it wrong. I'm saying that if someone does something wrong and it has a greater effect on the community or someone else that's not me, I'd report it more.
Someone calling you an idiot, I'd report it. Someone calling me an idiot, I wouldn't care.

And just so you know, unless you happen to be reporting tens of posts by the same poster, you're not really making more work for us. If it's one post that's being an issue, just state it's the post that's causing a problem as a whole and not just the one post.

Tombi! · 03-05-2015 12:43AM

crockholm wrote: »

Been called scum,paedophile,nazi and more,but I've never reported a post.Tbh,those who report posts go down in my estimation.Man up ffs.

Er, y'do realize me saying you're a Nazi in one thread and following you around and constantly calling you a Nazi is a bit different, right?

One eyed Jack · 03-05-2015 12:48AM

Where's the shame in reporting posts?

If we're all adults here, surely we should be expected to behave like adults, and when I take objections to a post, when I feel it warrants attention from a moderator, I'll report it. Doesn't take two seconds out of my day and it allows moderators to spot patterns if there are patterns emerging, and take action where necessary to improve the site as a whole for everyone.

my teapot is orange · 03-05-2015 12:51AM

My attitude is why would you not report an abusive post. I don't get the idea that a person should "man up" by quietly taking it. Be tough by standing up for yourself and reporting it. Bullies want to perpetrate the notion that there is something wrong with reporting. It suits their own ends if people think that. I've only ever reported one post on a different forum. It was deleted in two seconds, ban etc. I felt more satisfied after someones inappropriate behaviour towards me was dealt with and the poster looked like an idiot being reprimanded like a little boy, rather than a hero who got away with it, so that sends a message to others about whether they want to write abusive posts or not.

LadyAthame · 03-05-2015 12:53AM

my teapot is orange wrote: »

My attitude is why would you not report an abusive post. I don't get the idea that a person should "man up" by quietly taking it. Be tough by standing up for yourself and reporting it. Bullies want to perpetrate the notion that there is something wrong with reporting. It suits their own ends if people think that. I've only ever reported one post on a different forum. It was deleted in two seconds, ban etc. I felt more satisfied after someones inappropriate behaviour towards me was dealt with and the poster looked like an idiot being reprimanded like a little boy, rather than a hero who got away with it, so that sends a message to others about whether they want to write abusive posts or not.

People forget.

my teapot is orange · 03-05-2015 12:55AM

LadyAthame wrote: »

People forget.

Maybe they'll forget specific instances, but if there's an overall feeling that nastiness won't be tolerated, there will be less of it that if the site is an unmoderated free for all.

KomradeBishop · 03-05-2015 12:58AM

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

I'm more of a mindset that it's better to rip apart someone who generally is a problem rather than just report them. It usually gives them a realization that they're not as superior that they think.
Not that I'd rather someone go on arguing but you get my meaning.

Can't stand someone being abusive to someone else either; especially if it's obvious the victim is really uncomfortable.

That's the take I've always had on it, until I found out later - after mod action - that this was just working against me, because (in addition to what I said in previous post) it allows multiple posters to group up and be uncivil, and pile-on against you, and then when mod action starts getting dished out you take a disproportionate amount of it (simply due to numbers).

Often, when stuff like that goes on, with people piling on in numbers, it seems as if it can be viewed as 'legitimate' then because a lot of people are doing it, and then idk, I get the impression that that can bias mods too. You see it a lot in the Politics category.

There are some posters who are particularly persistent in poor/borderline-troll level of posts (but which regularly score just under the margins of mod action), who I can't believe were not banned a long time ago - indeed, many mods have said the same.

Chloris · 03-05-2015 12:59AM

The Backwards Man wrote:

I don't think letting bullying go unchallenged is particularly manly.

An Internet stranger calling you a name is 'bullying' now? We have very sensitive feelings in this forum!

Persistent, repeated annoyances would be bullying... I've actually had that with one forum user in particular. I don't mind name calling because I honestly am the most difficult person in the entire world to offend, but this one seemingly followed me around reporting everything I did until something seemed to justify action. I mean, that's really annoying.

The Backwards Man · 03-05-2015 01:03AM

Chloris wrote: »

An Internet stranger calling you a name is 'bullying' now?

Not to me, I get called all kinds of names every day of the week, most of them justified.

I'm not in a position to ascertain whether others are as thick skinned as I am though. Nor are you.

Tombi! · 03-05-2015 01:05AM

KomradeBishop wrote: »

That's the take I've always had on it, until I found out later - after mod action - that this was just working against me, because (in addition to what I said in previous post) it allows multiple posters to group up and be uncivil, and pile-on against you, and then when mod action starts getting dished out you take a disproportionate amount of it (simply due to numbers).

Often, when stuff like that goes on, with people piling on in numbers, it seems as if it can be viewed as 'legitimate' then because a lot of people are doing it, and then idk, I get the impression that that can bias mods too. You see it a lot in the Politics category.

There are some posters who are particularly persistent in poor/borderline-troll level of posts, who I can't believe were not banned a long time ago - indeed, many mods have said the same.

I get where you're coming from but if you think someone (or rather a group) of people are reporting your posts just to make it seem more legitimate then mention it to a mod in the forum via PM.
Never stepped foot in the politics forum since it's... y'know, politics. :pac:
But if you think a mod is being biased then mention it to one of the co-mods if talking to the mod themselves gets you no where and see what happens. There's help desk too if it's just the one mod.

Chloris wrote: »

An Internet stranger calling you a name is 'bullying' now? We have very sensitive feelings in this forum!

Persistent, repeated annoyances would be bullying... I've actually had that with one forum user in particular. I don't mind name calling because I honestly am the most difficult person in the entire world to offend, but this one seemingly followed me around reporting everything I did until something seemed to justify action. I mean, that's really annoying.

We're on about more than just one insult.

Cold War Kid · 03-05-2015 01:10AM

I don't think bullying is something that can happen too easily - it would have to be very sustained and operational-like and involve following you around and sending you malicious messages and the like, which Boards is good at stopping.

But still, if a person posts verbal abuse and/or has no interest in actually engaging and just wants to be as inflammatory as possible for the craic, or posts really dumbfounding meanspirited stuff - e.g. about people on the dole, I don't see an issue with reporting them. They're not interested in participating in the spirit of the place, the way most people are, and their spamming and derailing is just thread-spoiling. Ideally you'd just filter that out, but then people start taking their bait and a big trainwreck ensues. I've taken bait and it's pointless - ignoring initially, then reporting, makes more sense to me now. Usually all it takes is one person to report them though, so if it's a good bit along since they started their shyte, probably no need to report them at that stage.

I agree with Komradebishop about the borderline trolls though who are more difficult to police. It does get frustrating to see them carry on with seeming impunity. I know it's probably because they don't quite cross the line so the mods' hands are tied.

LadyAthame · 03-05-2015 01:10AM

Chloris wrote: »

An Internet stranger calling you a name is 'bullying' now? We have very sensitive feelings in this forum!

Persistent, repeated annoyances would be bullying... I've actually had that with one forum user in particular. I don't mind name calling because I honestly am the most difficult person in the entire world to offend, but this one seemingly followed me around reporting everything I did until something seemed to justify action. I mean, that's really annoying.

We are adults we know the difference. Those who don't know the difference can't be told. Most people when told..ok stop..do.

I'm sensitive as a person. Generally in the world you take yourself away from with different levels of sensitivity. I can take myself away from boards if I don't like it. You don't want to stop other peeps having fun. You can come back after a bit.

That is bullying what you are saying if it was really unjustified. But generally mods don't take action unless it goes against the charter etc.

crockholm · 03-05-2015 01:14AM

The Backwards Man wrote: »

I don't think letting bullying go unchallenged is particularly manly.

I have seen bullying first hand,more's the pity that I should have done more when I had the chance.
Compare that to being called names here......pfffft.

Funny also,that the lad who called me scum actually thanked your post too:pac:

KomradeBishop · 03-05-2015 01:15AM

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

I get where you're coming from but if you think someone (or rather a group) of people are reporting your posts just to make it seem more legitimate then mention it to a mod in the forum via PM.
Never stepped foot in the politics forum since it's... y'know, politics. :pac:
But if you think a mod is being biased then mention it to one of the co-mods if talking to the mod themselves gets you no where and see what happens. There's help desk too if it's just the one mod.

Ah I didn't mean piling on with reported posts - nevermind

Oh I've been down that latter route

too far gone I think.

LadyAthame · 03-05-2015 01:16AM

The other thing is I know there are times I must not realize what I am saying is touching a nerve or how it's percieved too.

Tombi! · 03-05-2015 01:16AM

KomradeBishop wrote: »

Ah I didn't mean piling on with reported posts - nevermind Oh I've been down that latter route too far gone I think.

Bribery might work.
Say, didn't you mention an issue in AH? I take gold.
Gold works. :cool:

In all seriousness, if you actually do think a mod is being biased against you and it warrants attention, there are avenues.

KomradeBishop · 03-05-2015 01:24AM

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

Bribery might work.
Say, didn't you mention an issue in AH? I take gold.
Gold works. :cool:

In all seriousness, if you actually do think a mod is being biased against you and it warrants attention, there are avenues.

Ha

Ah it's not a particular mod or anything - it's kind of a wider issue, where people might not even realize having a bias (so it's nothing personal) - it's hard to explain (and the fact that it's hard to explain, is part of the problem too

).

When the Sun Hits · 03-05-2015 01:32AM

HardenendMan wrote: »

Do they oblige by deleting other people's posts that quote your regrettable post?

They did for me, yeah. Had some stuff I thought was too personal quoted and the Mod deleted it. I sent them a message though, I think. They were really sound about it. My opinion of the mods went up after it tbh. I really thought they'd be awkward, on other sites they'd be thick about that sort of thing.

Zaph · 03-05-2015 01:41AM

Chloris wrote: »

I don't know if that's analogous, because that's real life. Him doing that makes everyone have to work harder. I don't really think anyone has to work hard on a forum. Maybe the moderators, but surely by reporting you're making more work for them.

In the short term, yes, but by reporting a post and allowing a mod to deal with it sooner rather than later may save them an awful lot more work further down the line if the thread descends into a trainwreck.

Chloris · 03-05-2015 01:42AM

LadyAthame wrote:

I'm sensitive as a person. Generally in the world you take yourself away from with different levels of sensitivity. I can take myself away from boards if I don't like it. You don't want to stop other peeps having fun. You can come back after a bit.

Yeah, you're right to really. There's no talking to a lot of people. Users of internet forums who purge all their real world psychological damage by abusing strangers are pretty sad, too.

LadyAthame wrote:

That is bullying what you are saying if it was really unjustified. But generally mods don't take action unless it goes against the charter etc.

Ah you can twist the charter on most subfora to cover just about anything!

And weirdly, since I mentioned the bans I got here, one of them was lifted early!

Cold War Kid wrote:

I agree with Komradebishop about the borderline trolls though who are more difficult to police. It does get frustrating to see them carry on with seeming impunity. I know it's probably because they don't quite cross the line so the mods' hands are tied.

I actually just adopt a "someone else will probably report that dope" approach. Which is probably the worst thing to do.

Mint Aero · 03-05-2015 02:02AM

I got banned from AH for 3 months for saying "murica" :rolleyes: A phrase that everyone uses here. The AH regular yank, we all know him...sings praises and defends America, mentions America at every opportunity because he lives there, that guy :rolleyes: He even made a thread in feedback to complain about me to go along with the reporting :rolleyes:

Chloris · 03-05-2015 02:05AM

It's taken everything in my power not to refer to the Czech Nazi Stag as 'The Alcololcaust' as a joke in the relevant thread in case it incites too much hatred.

Cold War Kid · 03-05-2015 02:06AM

Chloris wrote: »

It's taken everything in my power not to refer to the Czech Nazi Stag as 'The Alcololcaust' as a joke in the relevant thread in case it incites too much hatred.

Well I think that's brilliant, and I found the stag to be horrible (not just the nazi regalia but just the general asshole behaviour). It's only a joke, there's no badness behind it.

Cold War Kid · 03-05-2015 02:08AM

Mint Aero wrote: »

I got banned from AH for 3 months for saying "murica" :rolleyes: A phrase that everyone uses here. The AH regular yank, we all know him...sings praises and defends America, mentions America at every opportunity because he lives there, that guy :rolleyes: He even made a thread in feedback to complain about me to go along with the reporting :rolleyes:

Was it just for saying Murica or was there a build-up of stuff before that, with Murica being the final straw?

Mint Aero · 03-05-2015 02:16AM

Cold War Kid wrote: »

Was it just for saying Murica or was there a build-up of stuff before that, with Murica being the final straw?

Build up of stuff apparently

apparently I upset people and don't contribute constructively to AH

but in that thread, all I said was Murica.

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