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frazzledhome · 30-04-2015 02:37PM

mahoney_j wrote:

How dose fantastic sound.....

Getting warm:)

Greengrass1 · 30-04-2015 02:53PM

Went to dehorn last few calves this am. Can't find dehorner.

I'm in for sone bolicing if it's not found

frazzledhome · 30-04-2015 03:06PM

Greengrass1 wrote:

Went to dehorn last few calves this am. Can't find dehorner.

I'm in for sone bolicing if it's not found

Local guy comes here weekly Ã¢Â‚Â¬2/calf We have no hand act or part in the procedure.

Greengrass1 · 30-04-2015 03:27PM

frazzledhome wrote: »

Local guy comes here weekly Ã¢Â‚Â¬2/calf We have no hand act or part in the procedure.

Ah for my few it's no big chore do it once a week or every 2 wks and it's easy done

whelan2 · 30-04-2015 03:29PM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Ah for my few it's no big chore do it once a week or every 2 wks and it's easy done

ye but its one less job for you to do, lad comes here every few weeks and does mine

Greengrass1 · 30-04-2015 03:32PM

whelan2 wrote: »

ye but its one less job for you to do, lad comes here every few weeks and does mine

Half hour once a week it's done. Only had 40 heifers to do here 12 in autumn and rest between feb and March not as much as yourself or frazz

Sam Kade · 30-04-2015 09:57PM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Half hour once a week it's done. Only had 40 heifers to do here 12 in autumn and rest between feb and March not as much as yourself or frazz

I got the farm relief for a few years, they always made a pigs arse of it as in half the horns growing back :mad: They just nipped the tip of the bud off and that was it, job done :rolleyes:

Greengrass1 · 30-04-2015 10:02PM

Sam Kade wrote: »

I got the farm relief for a few years, they always made a pigs arse of it as in half the horns growing back :mad: They just nipped the tip of the bud off and that was it, job done :rolleyes:

Have a few with horns here. Hate them. I've heifers made such pets now they would be v dangerous. Walkin ahead of them in fiekd they have no problem giving me a push in the back with there head if your not watching

blackdog1 · 01-05-2015 12:57PM

Don't know if this has been posted already. Allocated flexi milk by coop http://m.independent.ie/business/farming/fasttrack-superlevy-deal-ifa-31175576.html

whelan2 · 01-05-2015 06:51PM

Wonder what will the milk supply for April be compared to last year

Greengrass1 · 01-05-2015 07:14PM

whelan2 wrote: »

Wonder what will the milk supply for April be compared to last year

Article in ifj says it's up 10% on last yr

RightTurnClyde · 01-05-2015 07:48PM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Article in ifj says it's up 10% on last yr

A good share of that could be carryover. 10% of my April supply was produced 10 minutes of the month!

Brown Podzol · 01-05-2015 08:01PM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Article in ifj says it's up 10% on last yr

The weather is responsible for most of that increase.

freedominacup · 01-05-2015 09:01PM

Brown Podzol wrote: »

The weather is responsible for most of that increase.

I can't believe it's that low tbh.

mahoney_j · 01-05-2015 10:00PM

freedominacup wrote: »

I can't believe it's that low tbh.

Neither can I especially with the big carryover at start of month

kevthegaff · 01-05-2015 10:18PM

mahoney_j wrote: »

Neither can I especially with the big carryover at start of month

we need to feed more meal lads!

Mad4simmental · 01-05-2015 11:59PM

Glanbia up 3.5 mill L a day between Ballyragget and Bellview.

Ballyragget from 3.5 ML to 5.5 at present
Bellview 1.5 ML day at present

That's allot of extra milk and the foot isn't to the floor yet. Mad amount of trucks on the road bringing that in!!

Deepsouthwest · 02-05-2015 01:02AM

frazzledhome wrote: »

What ever you do don't touch those Danish or American Je. All you'l get is a rat of a brown cow that'll milk herself to death with all the associated problems of the Hol. I'd stay with Hol before I'd touch them again

You're asking about our base herd. At this stage it's a mix and match. If I were xbreeding I'd go direct to Kiwi and let some one in NZ have the small cows.

A lot of my first crosses were to kiwi cross, but I'm constantly getting told I let too much hybrid vigour behind going that route.

frazzledhome · 02-05-2015 07:40AM

Deepsouthwest wrote: »

A lot of my first crosses were to kiwi cross, but I'm constantly getting told I let too much hybrid vigour behind going that route.

Teagasc and the guys racing for the 500 Ebi calf, I,d wager.

Get the same here every Dg that comes yet they're more profitable. Always accused of ignoring EBI which is far from true but we're very wary of Genomics. we do use genomics bur not the blanket approach.

We used a bull Called Lamont a few yrs ago who was top of the NZ bw for fertility, Ebi said we were mad as he didn't convert well yet when his daughters hit the ground he shot back up in EBI.

My observation on hybred vigour is that while the good traits are improved tha bad can be compounded if the bull and cow share them. it's far from a one stop cure all. For some reason there seems to be an agenda against LIC/Eurogene and Kiwi cross championed by teagasc and helped in no small way by a leading semen provider

stretch film · 02-05-2015 10:12AM

frazzledhome wrote: »

Teagasc and the guys racing for the 500 Ebi calf, I,d wager.

Get the same here every Dg that comes yet they're more profitable. Always accused of ignoring EBI which is far from true but we're very wary of Genomics. we do use genomics bur not the blanket approach.

We used a bull Called Lamont a few yrs ago who was top of the NZ bw for fertility, Ebi said we were mad as he didn't convert well yet when his daughters hit the ground he shot back up in EBI.

My observation on hybred vigour is that while the good traits are improved tha bad can be compounded if the bull and cow share them. it's far from a one stop cure all. For some reason there seems to be an agenda against LIC/Eurogene and Kiwi cross championed by teagasc and helped in no small way by a leading semen provider

Put some kiwi cross on small heifers over a number of years . All still here . Serious milk out of the resulting 3/4 fr animal with solids and fert.
Heading for a 7k delivred (550 kgs) herd with some NZ fr in all stock.
Using lic's genomic bulls is not as big a punt imo as most have calving surveys and stock on ground (some milking) by the time they're over here

Greengrass1 · 02-05-2015 10:58AM

stretch film wrote: »

Put some kiwi cross on small heifers over a number of years . All still here . Serious milk out of the resulting 3/4 fr animal with solids and fert.
Heading for a 7k delivred (550 kgs) herd with some NZ fr in all stock.
Using lic's genomic bulls is not as big a punt imo as most have calving surveys and stock on ground (some milking) by the time they're over here

impressive solids stretch. What level of meal do they take in the yr?

stretch film · 02-05-2015 11:20AM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

impressive solids stretch. What level of meal do they take in the yr?

1.2 t in 2014 which is skewed by a summer drought and my winter milkers are on silage and meal only (68 dmd silage) .
Fed 800kgs odd in 11 ,12 .
530 kgs MS last year with a balanced age profile but shorter lactations . Top heavy with heifers this year and next so may even drop for this year but would be confident in the genetics for the future.

Alot of the top ebi bulls are sired by NZ fr or their dams are so go figure.

Brown Podzol · 02-05-2015 12:21PM

frazzledhome wrote: »

Teagasc and the guys racing for the 500 Ebi calf, I,d wager.

Get the same here every Dg that comes yet they're more profitable. Always accused of ignoring EBI which is far from true but we're very wary of Genomics. we do use genomics bur not the blanket approach.

We used a bull Called Lamont a few yrs ago who was top of the NZ bw for fertility, Ebi said we were mad as he didn't convert well yet when his daughters hit the ground he shot back up in EBI.

My observation on hybred vigour is that while the good traits are improved tha bad can be compounded if the bull and cow share them. it's far from a one stop cure all. For some reason there seems to be an agenda against LIC/Eurogene and Kiwi cross championed by teagasc and helped in no small way by a leading semen provider

I'm always sceptical of conspiracy theories , but all imported bulls are discounted by 15% through interbull, called home advantage. I share your wariness of genomics especially here as the base is so small,the resulting proof is too unreliable for me.

freedominacup · 02-05-2015 01:40PM

Mad4simmental wrote: »

Glanbia up 3.5 mill L a day between Ballyragget and Bellview.

Ballyragget from 3.5 ML to 5.5 at present
Bellview 1.5 ML day at present

That's allot of extra milk and the foot isn't to the floor yet. Mad amount of trucks on the road bringing that in!!

And bellview has just choked.

Milked out · 02-05-2015 01:41PM

frazzledhome wrote: »

Teagasc and the guys racing for the 500 Ebi calf, I,d wager.

Get the same here every Dg that comes yet they're more profitable. Always accused of ignoring EBI which is far from true but we're very wary of Genomics. we do use genomics bur not the blanket approach.

We used a bull Called Lamont a few yrs ago who was top of the NZ bw for fertility, Ebi said we were mad as he didn't convert well yet when his daughters hit the ground he shot back up in EBI.

My observation on hybred vigour is that while the good traits are improved tha bad can be compounded if the bull and cow share them. it's far from a one stop cure all. For some reason there seems to be an agenda against LIC/Eurogene and Kiwi cross championed by teagasc and helped in no small way by a leading semen provider

I see that lamont bulls ebi is up to 313, with some serious producion figures

Milked out · 02-05-2015 01:44PM

feckin rain made a route straight to tank in parlour, have to go away and hook up the tanker now. serious rain since yesterday morning

mf240 · 02-05-2015 01:45PM

freedominacup wrote: »

And bellview has just choked.

Ya there suppose to be at capacity allready. Wouldnt think supply has peaked yet either.

frazzledhome · 02-05-2015 01:47PM

Milked out wrote:

I see that lamont bulls ebi is up to 313, with some serious producion figures

And we have heaps of them haha Nice to get it right occasionally

trixi2011 · 02-05-2015 01:57PM

frazzledhome wrote: »

And we have heaps of them haha Nice to get it right occasionally

Have you any milking yet ?

Buford T. Justice XIX · 02-05-2015 02:08PM

Brown Podzol wrote: »

I'm always sceptical of conspiracy theories , but all imported bulls are discounted by 15% through interbull, called home advantage. I share your wariness of genomics especially here as the base is so small,the resulting proof is too unreliable for me.

The bias is consistent so you are comparing like with like with Irish genomic bulls.

So higher Irish EBI genomic bulls should still be top of the Irish heap (using a bull panel, obviously), shouldn't they?

At least that's what I'm telling myself:o

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