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2015 NFL Draft

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,475 ✭✭✭✭Knex*


    As an aside, I really don't want Williams to fall to the Redksins.

    Feck playing against that dude twice a year.


  • Posts: 10,091 ✭✭✭✭ Alivia Red Fur


    for a player that you want to trade? i actually was being generous and was thinking after to take a cb in the second and trade for kendericks in the 3rd - i dont think they will get much more than a 3rd round pick

    i dont think they want to trade him i just think he's available because we have two other starting mlbs

    kendricks is only 24 and a very very talented linebacker theres no hope he goes for a 3rd.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,475 ✭✭✭✭Knex*


    Anyone else kinda hoping Bucs go and draft Mariota, just to fuck some shit up? :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    I'm just waiting to see how the Browns mess this up :p


  • Posts: 10,091 ✭✭✭✭ Alivia Red Fur


    Knex. wrote: »
    Anyone else kinda hoping Bucs go and draft Mariota, just to fuck some shit up? :pac:

    very much so i think there would be a far bigger market for winston so it would be fun to see half the nfl scrambling to try to trade up to two
    mikemac1 wrote: »
    I'm just waiting to see how the Browns mess this up :p

    even if they get mariota on a good deal dies anyone believe he will develop into a good qb there?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭davegrohl48


    eagle eye wrote: »
    I counted through five of his games and his accuracy when he gets a bit of time is pretty impressive. I went from the snap 1, 1000, 2, 1000, 3, 1000 and his completion rate in that amount of time was pretty impressive. His numbers from last year are impressive when you consider how poor his OL was. He is without doubt the most pro-ready QB in this class imo.
    You hit on an interesting topic which is pocket time.
    - If a QB suffered many sacks in less than 3 seconds you would have to question the offensive line he had. Could consider upping the rating of his overall rating.
    - If a QB suffered very few sacks in that 3 seconds window and is not mobile did he have a brilliant offensive line or was he shaking off sack attempts with his size and power
    A QBs accuracy in that 3 second window gives you a much better analysis of his readiness to perform at NFL level. Being 6'5" 230lbs at College level will allow you shake off sacks, but it won't nearly as much at NFL level.
    Anyways I just thought interesting area to explore in rating players.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 950 ✭✭✭nasty_crash


    i dont think they want to trade him i just think he's available because we have two other starting mlbs

    kendricks is only 24 and a very very talented linebacker theres no hope he goes for a 3rd.

    at 24 and with his talent - i wouldnt be surprised if some1 did come in for him - i honestly would like the packers to get him because his is better than every other prospect at ilb!

    We would do well to get him as we have a massive hole at ilb


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,609 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    Williams to be Bucs just to mess things up completely! It's not like Tampa are a QB away from being a great team or anything, they should take the biggest difference maker out there and continue with a BPA strategy. Not sure either of those QB's qualify as that.


  • Posts: 10,091 ✭✭✭✭ Alivia Red Fur


    at 24 and with his talent - i wouldnt be surprised if some1 did come in for him - i honestly would like the packers to get him because his is better than every other prospect at ilb!

    We would do well to get him as we have a massive hole at ilb

    there is a rumour out there that if a certain player is not there for the green bay pick (possibly mychals brother eric) then the pacers will give there first and third for kendricks and the eagles second. the main reason I'm slow to believe it is that the pacers are the ultimate develop there own guys in house team right now (i.e. that julius peppers being the only non home grown player thing)
    adrian522 wrote: »
    Williams to be Bucs just to mess things up completely! It's not like Tampa are a QB away from being a great team or anything, they should take the biggest difference maker out there and continue with a BPA strategy. Not sure either of those QB's qualify as that.

    that would be amazing chaos. will never happen though you have to go qb.



    jesus christ i hate draft day if tonight would just get here that would be fantastic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,166 ✭✭✭Beefy78


    I'm stupidly excited about my first life NFL draft tonight. I watched last year's first round on Youtube at the weekend so I know roughly what to expect.

    Is the Sky coverage the same as the NFL Network coverage? If not then which is the one to watch?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 864 ✭✭✭Prefab Sprouter


    i think they would be mad not to take williams - imagine mack over his shoulder - olinemen and qbs would be ruined!!

    To be honest nasty_crash I cant see him being on the board by no.4 but, stranger things have happened! :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,369 ✭✭✭UnitedIrishman


    there is a rumour out there that if a certain player is not there for the green bay pick (possibly mychals brother eric) then the pacers will give there first and third for kendricks and the eagles second. the main reason I'm slow to believe it is that the pacers are the ultimate develop there own guys in house team right now (i.e. that julius peppers being the only non home grown player thing)

    I'm hoping this happens now. Not particularly all that psyched about our potential options at the position we are at. LB is our biggest need and given we are in win now mode rather than having to sit a guy to learn, he'd fit nicely.


  • Posts: 10,091 ✭✭✭✭ Alivia Red Fur


    lad on nfl network just said multiple front office sources round the league have told him that they dont think the titans will trade the number two overall because the price there asking for is to hefty


  • Posts: 10,091 ✭✭✭✭ Alivia Red Fur


    To be honest nasty_crash I cant see him being on the board by no.4 but, stranger things have happened! :cool:

    apparently the jags are big on fowler


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,415 ✭✭✭Guffy


    lad on nfl network just said multiple front office sources round the league have told him that they dont think the titans will trade the number two overall because the price there asking for is to hefty

    The question is then... do they pick mariota?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 950 ✭✭✭nasty_crash


    To be honest nasty_crash I cant see him being on the board by no.4 but, stranger things have happened! :cool:

    Is cos he is from florida - plays college football for florida - and he is a jags fan - and has openly said that he thinks that jags will take him! If the 2 qbs are taken 1-2 not entirely impossible - then williams will be at 4.....

    God this is the longest day in work haha


  • Posts: 10,091 ✭✭✭✭ Alivia Red Fur


    gufc21 wrote: »
    The question is then... do they pick mariota?

    starting to look like it by all accounts. could be a pick him and trade him type thing but if the price is that high they must be.

    also iv seen a few reports that the browns feel they can get sam bradford before the draft thats a strange one not sure how much i believe it


  • Posts: 10,091 ✭✭✭✭ Alivia Red Fur


    Is cos he is from florida - plays college football for florida - and he is a jags fan - and has openly said that he thinks that jags will take him! If the 2 qbs are taken 1-2 not entirely impossible - then williams will be at 4.....

    God this is the longest day in work haha

    i know right its ridiculous its actually worse than the Super Bowl


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 950 ✭✭✭nasty_crash


    i know right its ridiculous its actually worse than the Super Bowl

    Not that im actually doing anything in work - im very productive but not in an official capacity haha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 950 ✭✭✭nasty_crash


    redskins looking to trade down... no real suprise there - of course the browns aparently are all over it


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,415 ✭✭✭Guffy


    starting to look like it by all accounts. could be a pick him and trade him type thing but if the price is that high they must be.

    also iv seen a few reports that the browns feel they can get sam bradford before the draft thats a strange one not sure how much i believe it

    it doesn't make sense to me. If they draft him to trade his value will immediately drop, a little granted but it will still drop. Why don't they just make a reasonable deal now and make the draft picks they want. They don't need a qb.


  • Posts: 10,091 ✭✭✭✭ Alivia Red Fur


    Not that I'm actually doing anything in work - im very productive but not in an official capacity haha
    ya i have an assignment due tomorrow and i knew i had to have it more or less done yesterday because there was deck all happening today
    redskins looking to trade down... no real suprise there - of course the browns aparently are all over it

    every team seems to want to trade back who do you think teams would trade up for though there has to be someone that loves one of the receivers or something.


    all crap aside i would looooooove if somehow (and it won't happen) the jets got williams that line would be incredible


  • Posts: 10,091 ✭✭✭✭ Alivia Red Fur


    gufc21 wrote: »
    it doesn't make sense to me. If they draft him to trade his value will immediately drop, a little granted but it will still drop. Why don't they just make a reasonable deal now and make the draft picks they want. They don't need a qb.

    makes no sense to me either it was said at the time that the browns offered the number 19 overall to the rams and then to the eager for him when the trade happened but I'm not sure how they come out of this with him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭Magico Gonzalez


    Adrian Carter on AP situation at the Vikings:

    "I'm under a gag order on the Adrian Peterson situation. But I believe something's gonna happen. But I can't talk about it"

    He's being gagged, something might happen, at least he believes it is but he can't say.

    Conclusive.

    I still think he's playing in purple come the start of the season. Too old, salary too high.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 950 ✭✭✭nasty_crash


    I still think he's playing in purple come the start of the season. Too old, salary too high.

    Arizona may have something to say about that - they are actively talking with vikes - but i fully expect ap to stay where he is


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 950 ✭✭✭nasty_crash


    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000489039/article/seahawks-plan-to-decline-bruce-irvins-2016-option

    Interesting.... Dan Quinn is probably on the phone to Carroll as i type this! Falcons would do worse that trade a second round pick and maybe a 4th or 5th for irvins!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    Bob McGinn's mock draft has been released. McGinn has consistently ranked as one of the top five mockers around over the last number of years in terms of correct selections:

    http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/bob-mcginns-first-round-nfl-mock-draft-b99490465z1-301778881.html
    1. TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS: Jameis Winston, QB, Florida State

    When the Journal Sentinel surveyed 19 NFL personnel executives this month regarding the best player in the draft, six players received votes, and Winston wasn't one of them. Coach Lovie Smith and GM Jason Licht hitch their wagon to this controversial third-year sophomore.

    2. TENNESSEE TITANS: Marcus Mariota, QB, Oregon

    Looking to trade out and gain additional choices for the reclamation project ahead, the Titans will have opportunities to deal. Can Eagles coach-GM Chip Kelly get up this high? Others certainly can and probably will.

    3. JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS: Leonard Williams, DE, Southern California

    The Jaguars nab the scouts' runaway choice as the best player in the Journal Sentinel poll. Nicknamed "Big Cat," Williams drew 10 votes to four for runner-up Amari Cooper.

    4. OAKLAND RAIDERS: Amari Cooper, WR, Alabama

    The Raiders drafted OLB Khalil Mack No. 5 a year ago. This time, they take the wide receiver. There's not much separating Cooper from Kevin White.

    5. WASHINGTON REDSKINS: Dante Fowler, OLB, Florida

    Fowler is the type of powerful, relentless player with whom first-year GM Scot McCloughan hopes to rebuild in old D.C.

    6. NEW YORK JETS: Vic Beasley, OLB, Clemson

    New GM Mike Maccagnan, new coach Todd Bowles (one of Ron Wolf's college area scouts in Green Bay for seven months in 1996) seize a pass rusher when Mariota doesn't drop to them.

    7. CHICAGO BEARS: Kevin White, WR, West Virginia

    The Bears liked Randy Gregory more than any other pass-rushing OLB to fit their brand-spanking new 3-4 defense. Gregory's alarming off-field résumé prompts the switch to offense.

    8. ATLANTA FALCONS: Bud Dupree, OLB, Kentucky

    The Falcons shy away from both Gregory and pass rusher Shane Ray (turf toe, marijuana possession citation Monday) to take a safer albeit less impressive fit for new coach Dan Quinn's defense.

    9. NEW YORK GIANTS: Brandon Scherff, G-T, Iowa

    The Giants would love to see Beasley slip here. RB Melvin Gordon is a very real possibility, too. Settle for Scherff, a clear-cut choice in the Journal Sentinel poll as the No. 1 offensive lineman.

    10. ST. LOUIS RAMS: Andrus Peat, T, Stanford

    The Rams have all the defensive linemen they could possibly need. Peat will require more upper-body strength, and with it should come a more hostile approach. He'll join T-G Greg Robinson (No. 2 pick, 2014) as mainstays for a resurgent O-line.

    11. MINNESOTA VIKINGS: Trae Waynes, CB, Michigan State

    GM Rick Spielman ruminates over the selection of WR DeVante Parker only to provide CB Xavier Rhodes (No. 25, 2013) with another 6-foot coverage partner outside.

    12. CLEVELAND BROWNS: Randy Gregory, OLB, Nebraska

    Gregory was voted the best pass rusher in the draft by a 10-5 margin over Beasley. Gregory's free fall ends here, provided the Browns don't nab Shelton first and take Gregory at 19.

    13. NEW ORLEANS SAINTS: Danny Shelton, NT, Washington

    Last season, coach Sean Payton and GM Mickey Loomis fielded the No. 1-ranked offense and the No. 31-ranked defense (No. 29 against the run). The Saints just got a whole lot bigger.

    14. MIAMI DOLPHINS: Todd Gurley, RB, Georgia

    A lot of teams admire Gurley, especially the Jets at No. 6. That's too high for a player coming off ACL surgery Nov. 25. The risk-reward seems about right for the Dolphins here.

    15. SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS: Arik Armstead, DE, Oregon

    The 49ers cut LE Ray McDonald and are hoping to one final season from RE Justin Smith. With ILB Patrick Willis retired, GM Trent Baalke drafts a classic 5-technique for new coach Jim Tomsula's 3-4.

    16. HOUSTON TEXANS: DeVante Parker, WR, Louisville

    GM Rick Smith said goodbye to the great Andre Johnson and then signed UFAs Cecil Shorts (Jaguars) and Nate Washington (Titans). He needs a real receiver, and Parker is that.

    17. SAN DIEGO CHARGERS: Ereck Flowers, T, Miami

    Could the Chargers jump on Gordon? Without a doubt. But they've also had O-line needs for years. With Flowers at RT, athletically overmatched D.J. Fluker can move to guard.

    18. KANSAS CITY CHIEFS: Cedric Ogbuehi, T, Texas A&M

    The Chiefs lost Rodney Hudson to Oakland in March and have untested Eric Kush atop the depth chart at center. Tackle, however, might be an even more pressing need.

    19. CLEVELAND BROWNS-a: Nelson Agholor, WR, Southern California

    Former Chief Dwayne Bowe maybe can get the Browns by on the outside for a year. Agholor is a sleek, fundamentally sound slot receiver who would mesh beautifully inside of Josh Gordon if the troubled one can make it back from a yearlong suspension,

    20. PHILADELPHIA EAGLES: Damarious Randall, S, Arizona State

    In the past, the Eagles and Chip Kelly have drafted from the list of players that visited Philly before the draft. That list this year included Jaelen Strong, Byron Jones, Eric Rowe, Agholor and Randall. The Eagles say they won't take any character risks.

    21. CINCINNATI BENGALS: Dorial Green-Beckham, WR, Oklahoma

    Ogbuehi would have been a perfect fit. Green-Beckham is off some boards for an assortment of behavioral issues. Owner Mike Brown, coach Marvin Lewis take a gamble on greatness.

    22. PITTSBURGH STEELERS: Landon Collins, S, Alabama

    For the first time since 2004 the Steelers won't have Troy Polamalu at strong safety. Collins played too heavy last season and has flaws in coverage. What he can do is whack ball carriers in old-fashioned Steelers' style.

    23. DETROIT LIONS: Malcom Brown, DT, Texas

    DTs Ndamukong Suh and Nick Fairley are gone, leaving GM Martin Mayhew with former Raven Haloti Ngata, 31, and little else inside. Brown might be the draft's second-best interior rusher behind Leonard Williams and fits a 4-3 better than a 3-4.

    24. ARIZONA CARDINALS: Melvin Gordon, RB, Wisconsin

    It has to be a no-brainer if the irrepressible Badger still is on the board. GM Steve Keim can't go on with Andre Ellington, Kerwynn Williams and Stepfan Taylor toting the leather for coach Bruce Arians.

    25. CAROLINA PANTHERS: D.J. Humphries, T, Florida

    GM Dave Gettleman's LTs are Nate Chandler and Jonathan Martin, and newcomer Michael Oher is penciled in at RT. Humphries has the feet to start quickly on the left side.

    26. BALTIMORE RAVENS: Marcus Peters, CB, Washington

    In 2011, the Ravens used the No. 27 choice on CB Jimmy Smith, a player regarded as perhaps even more of a character risk than Peters. Smith has been a model citizen in Baltimore. The Ravens think they can do it again.

    27. DALLAS COWBOYS: Kevin Johnson, CB, Wake Forest

    If Johnson, the scouts' choice as the No. 2 cornerback in the draft, falls this far, he probably won't get past Dallas. If he's off the board, the Cowboys will consider ILBs Benardrick McKinney and Eric Kendricks.

    28. DENVER BRONCOS: Shane Ray, OLB, Missouri

    New D-coordinator Wade Phillips is back in Denver reinstalling his version of the 3-4. Von Miller is the truth on the left outside, but how much longer can DeMarcus Ware play effectively? He'll be 33 in July.

    29. INDIANAPOLIS COLTS: Cameron Erving, C, Florida State

    The Colts had a revolving door at center last year; Andrew Luck deserves better. Erving, who at 6-5½ becomes the NFL's tallest center, is good enough to approach Jeff Saturday's longevity records.

    30. BALTIMORE RAVENS-b: Breshad Perriman, WR, Central Florida

    In a projected trade, Green Bay GM Ted Thompson answers the entreaties from teams looking to move up for Perriman and other players. If it's Baltimore, the Packers would move down to the Ravens' second-round pick (No. 58) and probably pick up their first-round pick choice in 2016.

    31. NEW ORLEANS SAINTS-c: Bryce Petty, QB, Baylor

    The Saints worked out Petty in the last week and regard him as the best pure passer in the draft. Drew Brees, 36, will enter his 15th season. Petty has time to learn how to make reads and play from under center without having to play. TE-WR Devin Funchess is a fit, too.

    32. NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS: Jaelen Strong, WR, Arizona State

    Might the Patriots choose Duke G Laken Tomlinson 10 years after making the surprising choice of G Logan Mankins at No. 32? It could happen. Terry Glenn was the Patriots' last first-round WR. The year was 1996.

    a — From Buffalo in May 9, 2014, trade in which the Bills traded up for WR Sammy Watkins.

    b — From Green Bay in projected trade for picks.

    c — From Seattle in March 10 trade in which the Seahawks acquired TE Jimmy Graham.

    Can't see that Baltimore trade happening at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    Scenes from Higgins' house tonight if the Giants select Brandon Scherff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,317 ✭✭✭HigginsJ


    I'll just keep this handy.
    HigginsJ wrote: »
    :rolleyes: Oh good Brandon Scherff.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,725 ✭✭✭kennyb3


    Right guys hope you all enjoy the draft, time to unfollow and the media blackout.

    Back Friday night after I get to watch.

    Spare a thought for my tv if the Bears select Waynes at 7 as predicted by Mayock


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