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STORE IT is on fire

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭anto9


    dreamers75 wrote: »
    Its not really, you are renting a space. As its a public(in that members of public can freely enter) building they would have fire safety checks done annually.

    If you want space in a 4 hour fire proof vault with gas suppression, you would not fcuking believe the prices charged.

    Its crazy that each unit is not fully sealed off on the roof .Fire can jump from one unit to the other .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,457 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    the_syco wrote: »
    That's fairly pointless.

    It is not there as a fire block though it's there solely to segregate the units. Whilst we are storing some stuff that has value in the unit we have it is not irreplaceable. The place is a converted warehouse not a purpose built unit just like Store IT wasn't one (we looked at that as well).

    The one observation I would make is that whilst they stipulate in the T&C's that you can't store highly flammable material the practice from my experience is that there is very little real monitoring of what people store in their units. On the rare occasion we go to our Unit on a Saturday morning we tend to be the only people at the facility. So in reality it wouldn't surprise me if some individuals were storing inappropriate materials in their units that contributed to the fire as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭anto9


    It would be impossible to moniter every box going in .As far as i know the police have rights to enter and check a unit ,mostly for drugs etc .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,605 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    anto9 wrote: »
    It would be impossible to moniter every box going in .As far as i know the police have rights to enter and check a unit ,mostly for drugs etc .

    Doubt it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,457 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    anto9 wrote: »
    It would be impossible to moniter every box going in .As far as i know the police have rights to enter and check a unit ,mostly for drugs etc .

    Absolutely it is impossible to vet everything that is going into these units. With regard to the police they would have to get a warrant to search a unit just like any other premises. But people have to be aware that they are at the mercy of what their neighbours are storing in there units as well.

    With regard to the facilities having fully sealed units, the cost of this will be prohibitive and would price them out of the market they are aimed at. If you are putting items of value into these facilities you need to ensure you have them insured.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,689 ✭✭✭Jarren


    kneemos wrote: »
    Doubt it.

    Not the Police but Customs would come on regular basis with sniffing dogs.

    As someone who had his business /livehood destroyed in yesterday's inferno I know for once what I'm talking about.


    Over and out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,558 ✭✭✭✭dreamers75


    kneemos wrote: »
    Doubt it.

    He is correct numerous drug busts in these type of places, what gardai have done is just wait till someone shows up.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/man-held-after-raid-on-dublin-online-drug-dealing-operation-1.1990807

    There is one related to Silk Road.

    Was another one in D22 that was harsh, the companies driver was unwittingly loading boxes for the drug dealers and when arrested not one of them said the driver had fcuk all to do with it. He is currently serving 7 years for doing his job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,911 ✭✭✭✭whatawaster


    It's incomprehensible how a business could use one of these facilities to store their stock (such as the bike-shop example) and not have full insurance cover.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,424 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    Jarren wrote: »
    As someone who had his business /livehood destroyed in yesterday's inferno I know for once what I'm talking about.


    Over and out

    Sorry to hear that :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,238 ✭✭✭Deank


    There's an announcement on their homepage now with an email address to contact them on.
    Announcement

    We are deeply saddened to announce to you that our premises have been extensively damaged by a fire. Dublin Fire Brigade are presently at our premises and we have no access to the facility at present.
    We totally understand that you as a valued customer will be concerned about your belongings, with this in mind we have set up an email address to handle all enquiries until we have our phone lines back in running order. Please contact us at storeitfire@gmail.com


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  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 21,505 Mod ✭✭✭✭Agent Smith


    The Irish version of storage wars is going to take the biggest hit :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭fleet_admiral


    I worked in the industrial estate last year when the fire at oxygen started. people lost their jobs over that, hopefully it doesnt happen again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,605 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Jarren wrote: »
    Not the Police but Customs would come on regular basis with sniffing dogs.

    As someone who had his business /livehood destroyed in yesterday's inferno I know for once what I'm talking about.


    Over and out

    If they have the owners permission to walk around or a search warrent to search a unit.
    Doubt they could do so willy nilly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,695 ✭✭✭bur


    There's always money in the banana stand..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭anto9


    Is it out yet ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 307 ✭✭LastStop


    Yeah.

    I was down there this morning and spoke with one of the owners. They were having engineers in today to see what areas are safe to let people In.

    Said he probably get an update on the website this evening.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,856 Mod ✭✭✭✭dfx-


    Burned for about 24hrs

    I can see the building from our back window, it's considerably destroyed..you could still smell the charred remains on the wind this morning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 307 ✭✭LastStop


    Store It Announcement Update

    As you'll know, the extensive damage to Store It on Wednesday 29th of April , has meant that we and you, have no access to the facility until the Fire Brigade have completed their work. Therefore, we have no access to telephones or normal on-site contact, so please sign up to this email alert . . . .and we will keep you updated.You'll also understand that there's a lot to deal with, so please bear with us and, as quickly as we have information, you'll have it.It goes without saying, that we fully understand the stresses which last Wednesdays fire has caused. Those of you loyal customers will have lost materials, some will have lost livelihoods, records have been destroyed. It has been heartbreaking for everyone concerned.Of course, the facility was fully insured and those normal insurance processes are ongoing, but they in turn, have to await the formal report on the blaze by Dublin Fire Brigade which we have been advised will be sometime circa May 6th. The building remains in a dangerous condition which is consequently, adding to that delay.Whatever about insurance, it cannot replace the overall stress and emotional turmoil caused to you all and to all of us at Store It.There's a lot to deal with and we are striving to deal with the situation with as much haste as is possible.At the moment, our first task is to help The Fire Brigade complete their work, allowing us some access to the building itself to recover as much materials as possible and allowing the insurance issues to begin. We are doing so and will keep you informed. We will be contacting each customer by email towards the end of next week with instructions as to what the next steps are that need to be taken. In the meantime it would be prudent for customers to check their own household insurance policy as some insurers may cover some off site storage.Finally, there are no words to express our regret to you. What we can do now, is to promise to work on your behalf to conclude this professionally and properly for you. And that's we will do.Store It.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,294 ✭✭✭YellowFeather


    Received the insurance claim form for this the other day, and just trying to fill it in. I was storing personal stuff, so I'm not even sure how to evaluate it. Need to fill in the details, the age, the replacement price, and the claim amount. It's the last two I'm having the most trouble with.

    The likes of clothes, kitchen stuff, bedding, etc. How would you evaluate the claim price for something like that? Not sure the difference between the replacement cost and the claim amount anyway, and Jaysus it's difficult to name a figure for a box of shoes. Sure, one box was full of Christmas decorations and a tree. Probably would realistically cost €100 or €200 to replace, but I'd feel ridiculous claiming for that.

    Edit: Actually, claim amount, I guess, is replacement cost - depreciation. So, that may be the original value of the stuff less depreciation. Makes sense. Shouldn't the insurance company be calculating claim amount so?

    Confuzed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    The likes of clothes, kitchen stuff, bedding, etc. How would you evaluate the claim price for something like that? Not sure the difference between the replacement cost and the claim amount anyway, and Jaysus it's difficult to name a figure for a box of shoes. Sure, one box was full of Christmas decorations and a tree. Probably would realistically cost €100 or €200 to replace, but I'd feel ridiculous claiming for that.
    That's because your doing it wrong. It should read, vintage clothes, professional kitchen equipment, designer linen. :pac:

    €200 would probably cover it, maybe it would cover any payments you had made towards storage (don't forget to include that in your evaluation). If you've been paying insurance you don't need to feel bad about collecting, it's what insurance is for. It's good you don't want to make an illegitimate claim but at the same time you paid for a service and I wouldn't let the insurance company off just because it's a small sum.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,673 ✭✭✭fergiesfolly


    Just put in a reasonable claim for your antique Christmas decorations and your extensive Jimmy Choo collection and you'll be grand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Dont forget your Rembrandt.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 307 ✭✭LastStop


    Don't worry too much. I am sure everything will add up to 3000 euro easy. Anything over that your not getting back off the insurance anyway. Minus the 100 euro excess


    Do you have a copy of the rental agreement you got off them when you took unit?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,925 ✭✭✭RainyDay


    €3,000 is a fairly low limit for anyone who would have had most of a house contents stored. Was this the max insurance available?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22 Taxable


    The likes of clothes, kitchen stuff, bedding, etc. How would you evaluate the claim price for something like that? Not sure the difference between the replacement cost and the claim amount anyway, and Jaysus it's difficult to name a figure for a box of shoes. Sure, one box was full of Christmas decorations and a tree. Probably would realistically cost €100 or €200 to replace, but I'd feel ridiculous claiming for that.

    Don't underestimate the time it took you to buy all this stuff - value your time appropriately. Imagine going into town during the Christmas rush in December to buy new Christmas decorations and a tree... think about the cost of the stuff and the 2+ hours it would take you, and the associated inconvenience. Don't undervalue your time.

    Christmas stuff has little value in May, same for winter bedding, winter clothing, holiday clothing etc... ...but you were keeping all this stuff because it would save you this inconvenience of buying it again at some stage in the future.

    You can feel ridiculous about having to fill in the insurance form in the first place, and at the inconvenience that this will cause - but do not feel ridiculous for putting in realistic values. The insurance people will apply a discount anyway unfortunately.

    One of the basic principles of insurance is that the insured must not profit from it - the reason it is there is for managing downside risk and to get you back where you were before the event - but you definitely need to add everything up that would take you back to where you were before. Time is a part of that, but the insurance people don't look at it that way, so you must put in realistic values to begin with.

    Add it all up realistically, and most people will come to a figure well in excess of the €3,000 (less the €100 excess) figure. Otherwise they wouldn't have been spending more money on storage. When you add it up, it's likely to be above - make sure you have more than the €3k after depreciation.

    Stand your ground on that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 307 ✭✭LastStop


    Just been down at the site to be told that if I accept the 3000 euro insurance that I waive the right to remove anything from the unit and won't get any of the small items back.

    So if your unit is water and smoke damaged be careful about the claim incase you want to see if you can save any sentimental items.

    Also if anybody has a copy of the lease agreement that goes with the units PLEASE PM me as the crowd in store it claim that they have no copies of it anywhere in the world or cyberspace. which makes it extremely difficult for a solicitor to advise on. I wonder why they have no copies??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,252 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    LastStop wrote: »
    n down at the site to be told that if I accept the 3000 euro insurance that I waive the right to remove anything from the unit and won't get any of the small items back.

    So if your unit is water and smoke damaged be careful about the claim incase you want to see if you can save any sentimental items.

    Also if anybody has a copy of the lease agreement that goes with the units PLEASE PM me as the crowd in store it claim that they have no copies of it anywhere in the world or cyberspace. which makes it extremely difficult for a solicitor to advise on. I wonder why they have no copies??

    Maybe they were destroyed in the fire.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,689 ✭✭✭Jarren


    Maybe they were destroyed in the fire.


    They were not


    Main office wasn't fire damaged.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,504 ✭✭✭Polo_Mint


    Jarren wrote: »
    They were not


    Main office wasn't fire damaged.


    Water Damaged? they were spraying water for nearly 24hrs


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 307 ✭✭LastStop


    Polo_Mint wrote: »
    Water Damaged? they were spraying water for nearly 24hrs

    I seriously doubt that they don't have a copy of it on an email or hard drive outside of their office.

    They are just throwing up road block to customers who have been affected by the fire.


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