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Hit and run Cyclist death - Kerry.

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 14 The Burgerbar


    That piece of dirt will be walking the streets again in three years time and is bound to take another life if he keeps up his drinking and driving.

    If there was any real justice the people who helped him escape first should also be doing time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    5 years??
    Minus 3 for good behaviour. He'll be out in 2 and it's the justice system in this country which is at fault for it.
    He should've gotten 2 for drink driving alone and then murder which is what is was considering he never owned up to it and destroyed evidence and left the country.
    Fcukin wànker.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 818 ✭✭✭Triangla


    Why he was not given the maximum sentence is beyond me.

    He should have had the book thrown at him and had every other charge possible added to the charges such as perverting the course of justice, tampering with a crimescene (disposing of the car). etc

    How anyone can stand by someone who did what he did and fled like he did is beyond me. An example of the lowest form of life there.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    What an self centred coward.

    The justice system is a mess too. Someone that does something like this should be getting a much, much harsher sentence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭qwerty1991


    An accident can happen to anyone.... this man however was under the influence of alcohol which is so selfish and disrespectful to other road users. He left that poor man to die and then moves away and lives a normal fun and carefree life?!

    I think the fact he showed such disrespect and cowardice by moving to Australia and thinking he could get away with it warrants a much tougher sentence. Imagine how that poor victim's family felt when they discovered the driver had been living it up in a different jurisdiction while they lived with the loss of their son? Scum.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    Scumbag. And to those who'll be along, "He'll have to live with it for the rest of his life" he will in his bollox. His actions show he clearly doesn't give a fuk, nor does our justice system tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,448 ✭✭✭crockholm


    You can stand by your friends when they do wrong-but I couldn't stand by a friend who acted so cowardly,illegally and showed so Little remorse for the man he killed or his family-why on Earth would I want anything to do with such a lowlife-he disgusts me.


  • Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    He should've gotten 2 for drink driving alone and then murder which is what is was...

    I don't think he was charged with drink driving. In fairness to the Gardai that would be very difficult without a sample.

    One doesn't want to accuse his family of any wrongdoing in the legal sense. But there are a lot of rumours and hard questions about them here in Kerry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,645 ✭✭✭RollieFingers


    Little ratbag, I hope he has a truly **** life for the rest of his days


  • Posts: 3,620 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    c_man wrote: »
    Scumbag. And to those who'll be along, "He'll have to live with it for the rest of his life" he will in his bollox. His actions show he clearly doesn't give a fuk, nor does our justice system tbh.

    Nope. In fact judging by his facebook he had great craic altogether in Australia after leaving that poor chap to die.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,178 ✭✭✭✭Lemming


    One lives in hope that one day, karma will catch up with this "fine upstanding" gentleman and he is left to die slowly in a gutter/ditch/sewer/car-wreck. Couldn't happen to a more deserving trogolodite.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭Streetwalker


    They should have charged him with non payment of a fine instead he would have served longer. 5 years is laughable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,285 ✭✭✭Summer wind


    I think it's terrible first of all for the poor man to have been killed in such an awful way but my god imagine the pain his family went through when they discovered his body and found out how long he was left there dead on that roadside. You would not do it to a dog. The law in this country is far too lenient.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭Warper


    5 years??
    Minus 3 for good behaviour. He'll be out in 2 and it's the justice system in this country which is at fault for it.
    He should've gotten 2 for drink driving alone and then murder which is what is was considering he never owned up to it and destroyed evidence and left the country.
    Fcukin wànker.

    2 years in jail for drink driving is excessive to say the least, 2 year ban fair enough but 2 yrs in prison forget about it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,273 ✭✭✭twowheelsonly


    Having met this fine individual I have to say that he's one of the most arrogant self centred pieces of sht that I've ever encountered.
    He's definitely up there with the likes of Lillis as a despicable cowardly individual.
    Supposedly the apple doesn't fall far from the tree, he had to have gotten the attitude from somewhere..
    Most criminals/junkies/drunk drivers etc will hold their hands when caught or will hand themselves in - a self centred coward like this will run away.
    Shame on any of his family and friends as well that helped him. They're as bad and should also face justice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,651 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    5 years??
    Minus 3 for good behaviour. He'll be out in 2 and it's the justice system in this country which is at fault for it.
    Either you have no clue about remission in this country or you're shite at maths.

    Which is it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,420 ✭✭✭Lollipops23


    1) He was drunk 2) He fled the scene 3) He intended to stay gone and showed zero remorse.


    That's tantamount to manslaughter. A couple of years is nothing- that man's children lost their dad, his wife lost her husband and clearly the driver didn't care. Scumbag.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    crockholm wrote: »
    You can stand by your friends when they do wrong-but I couldn't stand by a friend who acted so cowardly,illegally and showed so Little remorse for the man he killed or his family-why on Earth would I want anything to do with such a lowlife-he disgusts me.
    To be fair, it seems like plenty of his friends didn't stand by him and were happy to let Gardai know just how drunk he'd been on the night and where he'd been drinking.

    I'd say his family have told absolutely no-one what they've done with the land rover, so aside from shunning him and assisting Gardai about that night, there's not much else any friends could do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    Good to have a picture and name. Credit to Indo.
    Duly noted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,420 ✭✭✭Lollipops23


    This is probably the wrong this to focus on, but I couldn't help note that he went to court in jeans. WTF? He couldn't even try to look respectable and less like a scumbag? Screams arrogant SOB to me.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 604 ✭✭✭Vandango


    c_man wrote: »
    Scumbag. And to those who'll be along, "He'll have to live with it for the rest of his life" he will in his bollox. His actions show he clearly doesn't give a fuk, nor does our justice system tbh.

    Amen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 324 ✭✭rob180


    God forbid, if any of my kids ever came home, told me they might have hurt/killed someone and left the scene without contacting the authority. I would drag the fecker to the guards and have him/her owned up to what they did. Well, that what decent people would do, says alot about his family really.
    One more thing, can he return to Australia when he's released? Do the criminal record he has now affect his visa application?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,867 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    He won't be living it up in Australia any more. I doubt that they'd make him welcome seeing as they don't welcome convicts anymore.

    He won't be going to the US either as his conviction will stop him going there too.

    Anybody can have an accident but showing no remorse leads me to believe that he's beyond redemption.

    I'd feel sh1te if I hit a dog.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    The justice system is an ass.

    There is no justice for families like this. It nearly mocks their bereavement and loss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,946 ✭✭✭✭Neyite


    seamus wrote: »
    I'd say his family have told absolutely no-one what they've done with the land rover, so aside from shunning him and assisting Gardai about that night, there's not much else any friends could do.

    What's the story with the land rover?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭Duiske


    Been thinking about the story alot, and just can't get my head around how someone could knock a person down and then just drive away without even checking on them. Reading between the lines of the case it appears that the poor guy would almost certainly have been killed instantly from the impact, but the driver of the jeep would not have known that. I mean, not even to call the emergency services and say there might be an injured person at the scene ? Most normal thinking people would stop to see if they could help a dog they had struck with their car. Should be a minimum 20yr sentence for hit and run which causes death or serious injury, then add the drink-driving, etc, on top of that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 480 ✭✭MintyMagnum


    Read last week that his family would've donated his organs for transplant but he wasn't found for eight hours, so it wasn't possible. Think it would've given them some comfort. Very sad.


  • Posts: 53,068 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Would I stand by a friend who made a massive mistake and who was living through hell as a result? Absofcukinglutely.

    Would I stand by someone who left the scene of their accident and didn't own up to it immediately, who put another family, not only through massive loss by their actions, but hell for a long time after? Absolutely fcuking not.


  • Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Duiske wrote: »
    Reading between the lines of the case it appears that the poor guy would almost certainly have been killed instantly from the impact, but the driver of the jeep would not have known that.

    Sadly, again the rumours around Kerry is that he certainly did not die there and then, and that in fact had the person stopped and contacted the emergency services he may be alive now.

    I can't say that that's a medical assessment or that it was asserted in the case itself, or might have come from someone involved - it may have been, it may not, but that's what many are saying.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Neyite wrote: »
    What's the story with the land rover?
    It hasn't been recovered, largely believed that it's been buried somewhere by whoever was helping him flee.

    He did claim that he sold it in the UK to get himself to Australia, which given that he boarded a ferry the next day is plausible, but I imagine the Gardai would have thoroughly explored that.

    If he'd driven a grey land cruiser with the front right wing smashed to bits from Kerry to Dublin port, he would have been spotted.


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