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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    I would prefer government to see about beefing it up some more to make it attractive to gay couples rather than diluting traditional marriage.

    In what specific way will giving same-sex couples the right to marry dilute anybody else's marriage?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,224 ✭✭✭alaimacerc


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    I would prefer government to see about beefing it up some more to make it attractive to gay couples rather than diluting traditional marriage.
    Fascinating I'm sure, but it doesn't address the point.

    Actually... not even all that fascinating. How much "beefing up" would you care for? CP "separate from but equal to" marriage? Or slightly more "equal", but still definitively second class, so they don't get ideas above their station?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,160 ✭✭✭Callan57


    RayM wrote: »
    In what specific way will giving same-sex couples the right to marry dilute anybody else's marriage?

    They would have to have fairly insipid marriages to begin with if they are that easily diluted.
    Wasn't this the same argument posited when divorce was being discussed? ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,224 ✭✭✭alaimacerc


    Callan57 wrote: »
    They would have to have fairly insipid marriages to begin with if they are that easily diluted.
    Wasn't this the same argument posited when divorce was being discussed? ;)
    Divorce does at least actually change each "instance" of the institution. You don't have to get divorced, but you do have to enter a institution that can, in civil terms, now be terminated. (Let's not get into the morass that is religious annulments.)

    Allowing other people to get married while making no changes at all to the terms of all existing marriages, or future marriages that would already have been lawful... that's quite the stretch.

    Seems to pretty much be a case of "ew, don't want to be associated with". Very much so in the case of that "very young 43 year old" writing to Mandate for Marriage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,160 ✭✭✭Callan57


    Ronan Mullin .... that's my Q to depart to Lyric. Could not take his waffle on a Monday


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,127 ✭✭✭✭neris


    what a hate filled little man. a biggoted little weasel


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,127 ✭✭✭✭neris


    mullen getting narky now coz hes getting a dose of his own interupting


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,127 ✭✭✭✭neris


    is there only mullen and that other pillock breda obrien who are against the marriage referendum? they seem to be the only 2 people on any radio show speaking for the No side


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,895 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    RayM wrote: »
    In what specific way will giving same-sex couples the right to marry dilute anybody else's marriage?

    It will no longer be a bond based exclusively on the relationship between a man and a woman.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,494 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    neris wrote: »
    is there only mullen and that other pillock breda obrien who are against the marriage referendum? they seem to be the only 2 people on any radio show speaking for the No side

    Keith Mills also turns up.

    There was another lad who's name I've forgotten, but after a few media performances so bad they make Terence Flanagan look well prepared it seems they've decided that having him on would be seen as promoting the other side!
    padd b1975 wrote: »
    It will no longer be a bond based exclusively on the relationship between a man and a woman.

    As that doesn't "dilute" anything, you've not answered the question.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,895 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    L1011 wrote: »



    As that doesn't "dilute" anything, you've not answered the question.

    That's a matter of opinion really.

    If you take something away from something that was the very cornerstone of what it was, then as far as I'm concerned it's been diluted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,160 ✭✭✭Callan57


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    That's a matter of opinion really.

    If you take something away from something that was the very cornerstone of what it was, then as far as I'm concerned it's been diluted.

    If it's that easily diluted it can't be very solid to begin with


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,127 ✭✭✭✭neris


    what was it the corner stone of?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    That's a matter of opinion really.

    If you take something away from something that was the very cornerstone of what it was, then as far as I'm concerned it's been diluted.

    You sound shook.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,224 ✭✭✭alaimacerc


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    That's a matter of opinion really.

    If you take something away from something that was the very cornerstone of what it was, then as far as I'm concerned it's been diluted.

    "Taking away the cornerstone" is "diluting" something?

    You've just jumbling up metaphors at this stage. If you take away a cornerstone of something, it doesn't get "diluted", it collapses. And this cornerstone is... "no gays allowed?"

    Seems pretty survivable to me. And pretty non-dilutey, too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    It will no longer be a bond based exclusively on the relationship between a man and a woman.

    How would that dilute it? You don't seem capable of directly answering anybody's questions. Since you don't appear to have any actual arguments against marriage equality, maybe you should consider voting 'yes'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,127 ✭✭✭✭neris




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,160 ✭✭✭Callan57


    Michael Colgan: "sending a ballet critic to review a cage fight" brilliant!
    He has me on the floor laughing, an absolute tonic on a miserable morning.:)

    Any chance RTE would drop MLOD and give us Mr Colgan every week?
    I very nearly missed him because I was late changing back after having to go to Lyric to avoid herladyship. :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,657 ✭✭✭CountyHurler


    Callan57 wrote: »
    Michael Colgan: "sending a ballet critic to review a cage fight" brilliant! He has me on the floor laughing, an absolute tonic on a miserable morning.:)

    Not usually a huge fan of Colgan, as I find him a bit arrogant, but he was very funny today... And I liked the way he didnt let political correctness get in the way of giving his honest opinions about the book.

    Particularly liked his line... "Sean, this book is called The Woman Who Stole My Life... And that is the name that I have now given to the woman in RTE who handed me this book to review". Brilliant..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,160 ✭✭✭Callan57


    Someone should give Noonan a fisherman's friend :)


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,771 ✭✭✭michael999999


    Noonan being handed he's arse on a plate!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,750 ✭✭✭touts


    Noonan being handed he's arse on a plate!

    Ah sure Life's great in Ireland now. It's not Noonan's fault if no one else thinks so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,160 ✭✭✭Callan57


    Why was this case prosecuted in the first place? Wouldn't be just to make more €€€€€ for the lawyers now would it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,051 ✭✭✭✭Odyssey 2005


    Noonan being handed he's arse on a plate!

    Sick I can't listen to that. I'll listen back later. Is he talking about rhe bullons he's saved us?;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,750 ✭✭✭touts


    The New Land League have taken over Gorsehill.

    Get the Teargas!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,129 ✭✭✭my friend


    touts wrote: »
    The New Land League have taken over Gorsehill.

    Get the Teargas!

    Nah, just have Revenue send a customs unit out and have them seize the UK Jaguar that Jerry Beades has spent at least the last year swanning about in. No VRT or import duties paid. Seize it now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    God these foreigners and their funny names! :pac:

    He got there in the end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,160 ✭✭✭Callan57


    Oh dear God the bloody Leaving Cert agaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaain :mad:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,129 ✭✭✭my friend


    Callan57 wrote: »
    Oh dear God the bloody Leaving Cert agaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaain :mad:

    Aren't the kids in school? Who's this aimed at? Nanny goats?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,708 ✭✭✭serfboard


    Noonan being handed he's arse on a plate!
    Seán kept pressing him about his (lack of) answers in the Dáil on SiteServ. He finally snapped, and resorted to attacking RTÉ about some report which has nothing to do with Seán - shows he was under pressure.


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