What salary are you on?

Wanderer78 · 27-04-2015 01:16AM

punk_one82 wrote: »

I'm well aware - I commuted 4 1/2 hours round trip Monday-Friday for my last job and it was tough. A 40 hour working week with a relatively short distance to travel is in no way keeping anyone from having a decent lifestyle though.

jesus thats tough going. i just wouldnt do it but i guess many just have to. i had a good balance with a 40 hour week. its enough hours to work, in fact i think the french have it right at 35 hours.

PutDownArtist · 27-04-2015 01:18AM

Wanderer78 wrote: »

jesus thats tough going. i just wouldnt do it but i guess many just have to. i had a good balance with a 40 hour week. its enough hours to work, in fact i think the french have it right at 35 hours.

No one should have to work for more than 21 hours pw, and the working week should be 3 days a week, not 5.

Time to reclaim life.

punk_one82 · 27-04-2015 01:20AM

Wanderer78 wrote: »

jesus thats tough going. i just wouldnt do it but i guess many just have to. i had a good balance with a 40 hour week. its enough hours to work, in fact i think the french have it right at 35 hours.

It was tough and I wouldn't do it again. It was my choice though, not forced upon me. I've sinced moved to Australia, work 37.5 hours a week, have a 40 minute commute to work and have a great lifestyle.

Wanderer78 · 27-04-2015 01:21AM

PutDownArtist wrote: »

No one should have to work for more than 21 hours pw, and the working week should be 3 days a week, not 5.

Time to reclaim life.

great idea, most would probably agree but reality simply would not allow it. matter of economics im afraid. id say i could probably make it work though.

Wanderer78 · 27-04-2015 01:22AM

punk_one82 wrote: »

It was tough and I wouldn't do it again. It was my choice though, not forced upon me. I've sinced moved to Australia, work 37.5 hours a week, have a 40 minute commute to work and have a great lifestyle.

great to hear. havent been to australia in years. what part?

punk_one82 · 27-04-2015 01:51AM

Wanderer78 wrote: »

great to hear. havent been to australia in years. what part?

Sydney. Work in the CBD and live by the beach. Earn enough to enjoy my time here, and have enough free time to spend my money whilst saving a decent chunk each month.

edward2222 · 27-04-2015 06:21AM

People who have salaries more than 150k...
Do you still have money problems?

amybabes · 27-04-2015 06:43AM

I'm in Sydney - on $80,000 base salary (current conversion to Euros is about E58,000) + 3.2% bonus + 11% superannuation payments (mandatory in Australia). Tend to get a 2 or 3% rise annually.

That's for a junior level marketing role in a global pharmaceutical company.
I interviewed for a similar level role in the company's office in Dublin last September when I was desperately homesick and wanted to come home, and the highest salary they could offer was E45,000.

Wasn't sure what kind of lifestyle E45,000 salary would afford you in Dublin to be honest, even if the cost of living in Sydney is sky high, I still have a fairly health disposable income.

This thread is really interesting, because I've been gone from Ireland 6 years and left straight after college, I really am out of touch with what's considered a good wage in Ireland, Dublin specifically. And what would be do-able if I were to move home....

Kinet1c · 27-04-2015 07:21AM

PutDownArtist wrote: »

I don't believe people "enjoy work", they merely enjoy the cash they get for doing it.

You wouldn't work for free etc.

Having left another career to move to technology, I thoroughly enjoy my work and current job. Monday mornings are something I really look forward to, I get to work with people who great at what they do and have no problem helping each other out. I solve (or help solve) problems relating to cutting edge technology and for me it's as good as it gets.

Who would work for free? Accommodation, clothing, food, education etc all costs money. If none of that was an issue, I'd work for free no problem.

Geniass · 27-04-2015 08:27AM

edward2222 wrote: »

People who have salaries more than 150k...
Do you still have money problems?

Someone from a lot of poor countries earning a couple of hundred dollars a month may ask the same question of someone on the dole in Ireland.

The more money you earn the greater the debts you can build up, and you will spend more and create a more expensive lifestyle.

In the long term lots of money wont make you terribly happy. However, I'm under no illusion about Put Down Artist having found the meaning of life. Seems like someone trying to justify their own failure.

Asmooh · 27-04-2015 08:29AM

20500 work from 700-1530 and most of the day im 'idle' and not doing so much.
Sitting in a nice and warm office, no complaints here.

edward2222 · 27-04-2015 10:07AM

Geniass wrote: »

Someone from a lot of poor countries earning a couple of hundred dollars a month may ask the same question of someone on the dole in Ireland.

The more money you earn the greater the debts you can build up, and you will spend more and create a more expensive lifestyle.

In the long term lots of money wont make you terribly happy. However, I'm under no illusion about Put Down Artist having found the meaning of life. Seems like someone trying to justify their own failure.

Owww, too bad for them,
but some people also have a problem on how to spend them.

Wanderer78 · 27-04-2015 10:31AM

edward2222 wrote: »

People who have salaries more than 150k...
Do you still have money problems?

worryingly, yes

Endthescam · 27-04-2015 10:36AM

Wanderer78 wrote: »

worryingly, yes

Same here. Your life and associated expenses just expand to fill the void. Nicer house, car, childcare, holidays etc. The worries are nowhere near as severe once you stay away from risky "wealth generating" investments. I spent 25K in a single month in February this year which knocked a dent out of my savings and income.

Wanderer78 · 27-04-2015 10:38AM

amybabes wrote: »

This thread is really interesting, because I've been gone from Ireland 6 years and left straight after college, I really am out of touch with what's considered a good wage in Ireland, Dublin specifically. And what would be do-able if I were to move home....

nice to hear your getting on good in australia. homesickness is not a nice feeling. many caught in this situation worldwide. i become deeply concerned when i hear our politicians say our economy is recovering but i suspect its a bit of a smoke screen. all i see is a hell of a lot of people who i consider, earning good money, struggling. something is fundamentally wrong here.

Wanderer78 · 27-04-2015 10:41AM

Geniass wrote: »

Someone from a lot of poor countries earning a couple of hundred dollars a month may ask the same question of someone on the dole in Ireland.

The more money you earn the greater the debts you can build up, and you will spend more and create a more expensive lifestyle.

In the long term lots of money wont make you terribly happy. However, I'm under no illusion about Put Down Artist having found the meaning of life. Seems like someone trying to justify their own failure.

all very good points

Wanderer78 · 27-04-2015 10:45AM

Endthescam wrote: »

Same here. Your life and associated expenses just expand to fill the void. Nicer house, car, childcare, holidays etc. The worries are nowhere near as severe once you stay away from risky "wealth generating" investments. I spent 25K in a single month in February this year which knocked a dent out of my savings and income.

apologies, i may have mislead you there. im actually long term unemployed but im becoming increasingly aware of the financial struggles people are experiencing in ireland at the moment. im aware of the squeezed middle which is deeply concerning.

_Kaiser_ · 27-04-2015 10:46AM

amybabes wrote: »

I'm in Sydney - on $80,000 base salary (current conversion to Euros is about E58,000) + 3.2% bonus + 11% superannuation payments (mandatory in Australia). Tend to get a 2 or 3% rise annually.

That's for a junior level marketing role in a global pharmaceutical company.
I interviewed for a similar level role in the company's office in Dublin last September when I was desperately homesick and wanted to come home, and the highest salary they could offer was E45,000.

Wasn't sure what kind of lifestyle E45,000 salary would afford you in Dublin to be honest, even if the cost of living in Sydney is sky high, I still have a fairly health disposable income.

This thread is really interesting, because I've been gone from Ireland 6 years and left straight after college, I really am out of touch with what's considered a good wage in Ireland, Dublin specifically. And what would be do-able if I were to move home....

It all depends really..

€45k for a single person in Dublin is a pretty good wage - monthly that's about €2750 after tax

You'd live fairly comfortably on that. Rent for a decent 2 bed would be anywhere from €1200-1600 a month depending on location (I say 2 bed as a 1 bed is tiny in most cases!), say utilities (gas/electric) and other bills (bins, bus fares etc) of maybe another €150-200 per month, TV/broadband maybe €60, food depends on where you shop but let's say €250 for the month and the rest is yours.

BUT.. if you have to run a car out of that, and maybe have a kid, suddenly it's not a whole lot really!

Wanderer78 · 27-04-2015 10:46AM

Endthescam wrote: »

Same here. Your life and associated expenses just expand to fill the void. Nicer house, car, childcare, holidays etc. The worries are nowhere near as severe once you stay away from risky "wealth generating" investments. I spent 25K in a single month in February this year which knocked a dent out of my savings and income.

apologies, i may have mislead you there. im actually long term unemployed but im becoming increasingly aware of the financial struggles people are experiencing in ireland at the moment. im aware of the squeezed middle which is deeply concerning.

jasus 25k in a month. thats a scary amount to spend in a short amount of time

Wanderer78 · 27-04-2015 10:48AM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

BUT.. if you have to run a car out of that, and maybe have a kid, suddenly it's not a whole lot really!

and this is where the real problem is i fear

_Kaiser_ · 27-04-2015 10:49AM

Wanderer78 wrote: »

nice to hear your getting on good in australia. homesickness is not a nice feeling. many caught in this situation worldwide. i become deeply concerned when i hear our politicians say our economy is recovering but i suspect its a bit of a smoke screen. all i see is a hell of a lot of people who i consider, earning good money, struggling. something is fundamentally wrong here.

+1.. I wouldn't buy into the spin of the recovering economy and Enda suggesting people come home now. There's still a lot of people/sectors that haven't felt any let up yet.

Plus, as I've said elsewhere, I really don't get this thing of chucking in a good job, decent life and opportunities (which is presumably why people left in the first place) to come back to this corrupt, overtaxed for no benefit, parochial little Island.

By all means come back on a holiday as much as you can afford, but I'd think hard about coming back to sit on the dole or in a job with far less options and money/higher cost of living because of homesickness

_Kaiser_ · 27-04-2015 10:50AM

Wanderer78 wrote: »

and this is where the real problem is i fear

Tell me about it... I make a bit more than the 45k being quoted but I have less money than ever in the last few years!

Wanderer78 · 27-04-2015 10:54AM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

There's still a lot of people/sectors that haven't felt any let up yet.

Plus, as I've said elsewhere, I really don't get this thing of chucking in a good job, decent life and opportunities (which is presumably why people left in the first place) to come back to this corrupt, overtaxed for no benefit, parochial little Island.

By all means come back on a holiday as much as you can afford, but I'd think hard about coming back to sit on the dole or in a job with far less options and money/higher cost of living because of homesickness

theres a hell of a lot of people struggling out there in all sorts of industries. im particularly worried about the lower waged sectors. i fear a lot of these people will be left behind.

life is relative to be honest. i have experienced homesickness before. its really not a nice feeling. corruption is a part of life im afraid. we re probably not that bad compared to developing countries. i love my country but its hard to watch a lot of hard working people struggle to even pay the basic necessities in life.

Wanderer78 · 27-04-2015 10:57AM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Tell me about it... I make a bit more than the 45k being quoted but I have less money than ever in the last few years!

this statement makes me very angry. we ve been codded im afraid. people like you deserve such things as free healthcare and free education for you and your kids.

_Kaiser_ · 27-04-2015 11:15AM

Wanderer78 wrote: »

this statement makes me very angry. we ve been codded im afraid. people like you deserve such things as free healthcare and free education for you and your kids.

As a single guy in the "squeezed middle" I get nothing but pay for everything unfortunately

For example, even though I technically earn more than I ever have, I didn't "go mad" in the Good Times, and as a result have been priced out of the property market entirely now when I might want to buy (as I don't have 2 incomes and with the expenses, no chance of a 20% deposit).. unless I buy somewhere in the middle of nowhere away from my job and son.

My reward for being responsible is to pay more than ever for even less return it seems. Ah well!

Wanderer78 · 27-04-2015 11:20AM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

As a single guy in the "squeezed middle" I get nothing but pay for everything unfortunately

For example, even though I technically earn more than I ever have, I didn't "go mad" in the Good Times, and as a result have been priced out of the property market entirely now when I might want to buy.. unless I buy somewhere in the middle of nowhere away from my job and son.

My reward for being responsible is to pay more than ever for even less return it seems. Ah well!

im afraid the system is failing you and your family. it sounds like you made many good decisions in your life but you're not getting the rewards you deserve. there are many out there like you. this is not right. you're not being treated correctly.

somebody told me a while ago, during the boom they were reckless with money, but some how they were rewarded for this during the recession. something is not right.

the system is a mess

27-04-2015 11:23AM

Wanderer78 wrote: »

this statement makes me very angry. we ve been codded im afraid. people like you deserve such things as free healthcare and free education for you and your kids.

What do you mean by free education? Everyone can send their children to primary and secondary school for free. Do you want the state to clothe and feed the kids too?

_Kaiser_ · 27-04-2015 11:25AM

Journee Flabby Nectarine wrote: »

What do you mean by free education? Everyone can send their children to primary and secondary school for free. Do you want the state to clothe and feed the kids too?

To be fair, it's far from "free". Not quite there yet myself, but between things like particular school uniforms, expensive frequently changing books (and workbooks), and (mandatory) "donations", our school system is far from free

Wanderer78 · 27-04-2015 11:26AM

Journee Flabby Nectarine wrote: »

What do you mean by free education? Everyone can send their children to primary and secondary school for free. Do you want the state to clothe and feed the kids too?

i would be very grateful if parents reading this can explain the flaws in this statement as im not a parent. thank you. in regards clothing and feeding the kids, yes this would be a great idea. it would take a lot of pressure off parents

Wanderer78 · 27-04-2015 11:27AM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

To be fair, it's far from "free". Not quite there yet myself, but between things like particular school uniforms, expensive frequently changing books (and workbooks), and (mandatory) "donations", our school system is far from free

tada. thank you

What salary are you on?

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