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Dublin Bus route 9

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  • #32
    guile4582
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,147 ✭✭✭guile4582


    cdebru wrote: »
    How would a privately operated bus get through the traffic any quicker ? Would cars suddenly move aside when they saw a privately operated bus approaching ?

    BTW I think we should privatize Met Eireann it is raining again today bloody incompetence..........

    they may seek using an alternative route, they may be more open to change and running an efficient servie

    your Met Eireann comment is just nonsense and you know it is


  • #33
    cdebru
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,761 ✭✭✭cdebru


    guile4582 wrote: »
    they may seek using an alternative route, they may be more open to change and running an efficient servie

    your Met Eireann comment is just nonsense and you know it is



    Where ? Will they build their own private roads ?

    What change could DB make that would allow the 9 to move through bumper to bumper traffic ? Fit wings ?

    Yeah and its my met eireann comment that's nonsense, because apparently DB are running the 9 through traffic on purpose just because they dont like change.

    BTW it is the NTA that decides on routings and no private company will be able to take the 9 down the empty roads that DB are avoiding without the NTA approving it .


  • #34
    guile4582
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,147 ✭✭✭guile4582


    we could send cars down other roads though couldn't we?

    Private companies seem to get their will more than government run companies, look at the Cork Bike Scheme for instance


  • #35
    cdebru
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,761 ✭✭✭cdebru


    guile4582 wrote: »
    we could send cars down other roads though couldn't we?

    Private companies seem to get their will more than government run companies, look at the Cork Bike Scheme for instance

    But it would be the NTA which is not a private company that decides on routes but rather than cheer leading for the improvements you expect with a private cpany perhaps you might read up on what is involved in tendering.

    They will bid for a route, at a certain service level, they will be paid on a km driven basis, carry no one they get paid carry a full bus they get paid the same amount, all the fares collected go to the NTA, any changes to routes or timetables have to be approved by the NTA. You might be waiting for the great private sector innovativation for a long time. The badge on the drivers uniform might be different and he will probably be paid less but other than that the 9 would still be stuck in traffic.


  • #36
    guile4582
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,147 ✭✭✭guile4582


    so feck it then, just give up is it?


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  • #37
    cdebru
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,761 ✭✭✭cdebru


    guile4582 wrote: »
    so feck it then, just give up is it?

    Not at all just look for a real solution rather than hoping some privately operated bus will fix it, bus only streets are a good idea, BRT, luas, metro, extension of the bike scheme.


  • #38
    GBX
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,101 ✭✭✭✭GBX


    guile4582 wrote: »
    how about a flyover?

    Where or how do you suggest this could possibly work in a suburban area like Harolds Cross/Kimmage :confused::confused:


  • #39
    Birneybau
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,434 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    GBX wrote: »
    Where or how do you suggest this could possibly work in a suburban area like Harolds Cross/Kimmage :confused::confused:

    Yeah, they obviously don't know the area, mad suggestion!


  • #40
    guile4582
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,147 ✭✭✭guile4582


    FYI

    I got a response from the traffic authority today:

    The ITS Officer reports that the timings at the junction of Harold's Cross Road at Harold's Cross Park have been adjusted in order to give more time to traffic approaching from Kimmage. As is it not possible to provide bus lanes on Kimmage Road Lower public transport will suffer from delays along this section of the route when traffic volumes are particularly heavy.
    The timings at Harold’s Cross Road/Grove Road and at Leonard’s Corner have also been adjusted to cater for the heavier volumes being experienced along the route.
    A yellow box will be provided at the end of the inbound bus lane on Clanbrassil Street Upper to assist buses in getting from bus stop 01347 across to the right turning lane onto the South Circular Road.
    The route will continue to be monitored.


  • #41
    LXFlyer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,039 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    Well that's a few steps in the right direction in terms of improving the flow of the buses.


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  • #42
    Peregrine
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,411 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    There are way too many stops on the route 9 in Glasnevin and Finglas. The distance between some stops is ridiculous. It's so frustrating sitting there while the bus stops at these stops, lets one person on, drives 150-200m up the road, takes on another and does the same again.

    http://www.dublinbus.ie/en/Examples/Google-Map/?routeNumber=9&direction=OI&towards=Limekiln+Ave.&from=Charlestown

    Prospect Avenue - St. Theresa’s Place: 190m

    Griffitth Avenue - Glasnevin Tennis Club: 250m
    Glasnevin Tennis Club - St. Canice’s Road: 210m
    St. Canice’s Road - DCU: 170m
    DCU - St. Pappin’s Road: 160m
    St. Pappin’s Road - Glasnevin Avenue: 220m

    6 stops over a distance of 1km. 1 stop every 167m.


    Beneavin Drive - Beneavin Park: 230m
    Beneavin Park - Beneavin School: 180m

    3 stops in 410m. One stop every 137m.


    Clune Road - Clancy Avenue: 160m
    Clancy Avenue - Sycamore Road: 290m
    Sycamore Road - McKee Road: 130m

    4 stops in 580m. One stop every 145m.


    At least 5 of those stops are completely unnecessary.


  • #43
    guile4582
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,147 ✭✭✭guile4582


    Nim wrote: »
    There are way too many stops on the route 9 in Glasnevin and Finglas. The distance between some stops is ridiculous. It's so frustrating sitting there while the bus stops at these stops, lets one person on, drives 150-200m up the road, takes on another and does the same again.

    http://www.dublinbus.ie/en/Examples/Google-Map/?routeNumber=9&direction=OI&towards=Limekiln+Ave.&from=Charlestown

    Prospect Avenue - St. Theresa’s Place: 190m

    Griffitth Avenue - Glasnevin Tennis Club: 250m
    Glasnevin Tennis Club - St. Canice’s Road: 210m
    St. Canice’s Road - DCU: 170m
    DCU - St. Pappin’s Road: 160m
    St. Pappin’s Road - Glasnevin Avenue: 220m

    6 stops over a distance of 1km. 1 stop every 167m.


    Beneavin Drive - Beneavin Park: 230m
    Beneavin Park - Beneavin School: 180m

    3 stops in 410m. One stop every 137m.


    Clune Road - Clancy Avenue: 160m
    Clancy Avenue - Sycamore Road: 290m
    Sycamore Road - McKee Road: 130m

    4 stops in 580m. One stop every 145m.


    At least 5 of those stops are completely unnecessary.

    start contacting the relevant bodies. A few of my nags have paid dividends. there is a real difference in traffic flow in kimmage area has defo improved

    (cyclist numbers seem the same too - this will increase though as it gets warmer)


  • #44
    LuckyLloyd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,701 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    Well fair play to you for complaining, though I wonder if such a change adversely affects road users coming from another direction.

    Ultimately though, I have to wonder why you believe you should be entitled to use motorised transport to traverse that route in a certain amount of time at peak period on a work day?


  • #45
    cdebru
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,761 ✭✭✭cdebru


    guile4582 wrote: »
    start contacting the relevant bodies. A few of my nags have paid dividends. there is a real difference in traffic flow in kimmage area has defo improved

    (cyclist numbers seem the same too - this will increase though as it gets warmer)

    Well done, the important part is complaining to the people who can actually change it, complaining to DB because there buses are stuck in traffic is next to useless.


  • #46
    Carawaystick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Carawaystick


    Nim wrote: »

    At least 5 of those stops are completely unnecessary.

    Which 5?


  • #47
    Player_86
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 124 ✭✭Player_86


    While I don't use the 9 bus route, I do occasionally use the 15A, the 54A and the 150 (I'm based on Limekiln Road) when the weather is too cold to cycle.

    All of these routes are very poor, and I don't blame Dublin Bus - it's more down to the city centre approach roads being too narrow, as a previous poster pointed out. I contacted all of the local public representatives about this and I understand that the traffic light sequence approaching Terenure on the 15A has been changed, which makes the trip into town a little quicker, as this is where the 15A generally gets held up.

    I think a LUAS extension from the Kylemore stop towards the general Templeogue area would be a good idea. Having lived in several areas of Dublin in my early 20s, I think the general Limekiln/Templeogue/Perrystown/Greenhills area is the worst area for public transport in Dublin. A LUAS extension would link a huge chunk of people not only with town, but with the hospitals at Tallaght and St James's, thereby further reducing congestion on the southside in general. Not a chance of it happening though!


  • #48
    guile4582
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,147 ✭✭✭guile4582


    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    Well fair play to you for complaining, though I wonder if such a change adversely affects road users coming from another direction.

    Ultimately though, I have to wonder why you believe you should be entitled to use motorised transport to traverse that route in a certain amount of time at peak period on a work day?

    Because when for example you see there is so little traffic coming the other way etc. a simple thing like changing traffic light frequency can help move things along a lot smoother.

    and I cycle 99% of the time btw.


  • #49
    LXFlyer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,039 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    guile4582 wrote: »
    Because when for example you see there is so little traffic coming the other way etc. a simple thing like changing traffic light frequency can help move things along a lot smoother.

    and I cycle 99% of the time btw.



    The main problem on that route however, is not traffic going in the other direction, but rather that two separate inbound routes merge together at Harold's Cross Green. Your route merges with that coming from Terenure and Rathfarnham at that location - it's very hard to manage that any more than is done already.


    The welcome changes mentioned above will however help the 9, 16, 49 and 54a.


  • #50
    Nom DeGuerre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 ✭Nom DeGuerre


    Sorry to resurrect an old thread, just wondering if anyone living in the Kimmage area or beyond knows if journey times for the number 9 bus have improved in any way over the last year or two since the change to the traffic light sequencing at Harold's Cross?

    For example, Google Maps says the number 9 takes 18 minutes to get from Kimmage Road Lower (outside Mount Argus Community Centre and the row of shops) to Aungier Street leaving at 8.30 am on a weekday. Would this be reasonably accurate or are they living in a dream world!?

    I ask because I'm thinking of buying a house in the area.


  • #51
    guile4582
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,147 ✭✭✭guile4582


    i moved out of the area
    I seriously doubt there is any improvment (given the narrow roads) and to add to that there is a huge building site before the Harolds Cross bottleneck now that I say has added further delays


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  • #52
    BeerNut
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,087 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    Nom DeGuerre wrote: »
    Sorry to resurrect an old thread, just wondering if anyone living in the Kimmage area or beyond knows if journey times for the number 9 bus have improved in any way over the last year or two since the change to the traffic light sequencing at Harold's Cross?
    Everything is still the same. It's impractical to travel this route by bus during rush hour during school term. Walk, cycle, or travel before 8am.

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