Why no movies about 1916?

Fratton Fred · 19-04-2015 09:55PM

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

After 20 minutes the Germans were 3-0 up but thanks to great performances from Ossie Ardiles, Pele and Rocky the Allies eventually snatch a draw.

And thankfully didn't (for once) win the penalty shoot out.

worded · 19-04-2015 10:02PM

I'm sure these people had passion and fire in their bellies fighting for ireland with their lives

We have keyboard warriors now with dough nuts in theirs

pablomakaveli · 19-04-2015 10:09PM

It would make for a good movie i think. Maybe tell it from the perspective of different people involved in the rising like one of the leaders, and another perspective from a volunteer and a woman involved or something like that.

Dirty Dingus McGee · 19-04-2015 10:17PM

Earthhorse wrote: »

They also have an instinct for what makes a good story and what doesn't.

Post on boards.

I don't remember if it is or isn't but that's possibly more to do with how the pacing and style of cinema has changed since then. But I agree plenty of WW2 films are boring. That doesn't make 1916 particularly interesting.

How do you define what is boring and what isn't?

I'd imagine a lot of people would consider a film with a small army rising against a significantly greater power to be quite interesting.

RickDeckard · 19-04-2015 10:47PM

The One Doctor wrote: »

I don't think anyone cares about 1916 anymore. I certainly don't.

That post makes me so mad its hard to formulate a popper response apart from:

YOUR QUITE WRONG.

What are you, 11? massive eejit.

Streetwalker · 19-04-2015 11:03PM

The One Doctor wrote: »

I don't think anyone cares about 1916 anymore. I certainly don't.

So nobody at all cares about 1916 because you don't? Right so.

Earthhorse · 19-04-2015 11:04PM

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

How do you define what is boring and what isn't?

I'd imagine a lot of people would consider a film with a small army rising against a significantly greater power to be quite interesting.

I don't define I just decide for myself. I don't hear anyone I know speak about 1916 with great excitement or enthusiasm.

I'm sure there are a rake of scintillating scripts out there though and a queue of directors waiting to get them made.

Harry Palmr · 19-04-2015 11:09PM

http://www.rte.ie/ten/news/2015/0331/691065-the-rising/

Writer-producer Kevin McCann has said he plans to have The Rising, "the first movie ever" about the Easter 1916 Rising, in cinemas next year, and hopes to begin production on the Colin Morgan-starring film in the Autumn, if a lead investor can be secured.

http://www.therising.ie/

Capt'n Midnight · 19-04-2015 11:49PM

Are you my Daddy wrote: »

Why no movies about the eastern front in world war two?

Cross of Iron http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074695/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
Wheels of Terror http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093546/?ref_=fn_al_tt_2
Come and See http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091251/

Also there is this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Young_Indiana_Jones_Chronicles
Ireland, April 1916

awec · 20-04-2015 12:11AM

Mint Aero wrote: »

*coughs*

Liam Neeson was in one.

\movie production.

Does that movie not about the bits after 1916?

TheMilkyPirate · 20-04-2015 12:19AM

The One Doctor wrote: »

I don't think anyone cares about 1916 anymore. I certainly don't.

WTF is this ****? Is it fashionable these days to not care about your national history. A lot of people care including me, those men that fought had more courage and pride in their small toe than you ever will.

jimmythedivil · 20-04-2015 12:31AM

TheMilkyPirate wrote: »

WTF is this ****? Is it fashionable these days to not care about your national history. A lot of people care including me, those men that fought had more courage and pride in their small toe than you ever will.

I worked at a tourist site before and by far the most ignorant visitors I encountered on a daily basis were Irish. Staggering to think that people are so ignorant of their own history.

I would love it if they made a 1916 film simply because it creates discussion on the events of the time. When Michael Collins and Wind That Shakes the Barley were released they sparked a lot of interesting debate about the period that even today is good to look back and read up on. However, I don't think either of these films did that well internationally. Even Michael Collins, despite the A-list cast (or maybe because of it) didn't do too well outside of Ireland.

The govt is probably shy about throwing money at another troubles related film given that quite a few Provos claimed to have been inspired by 'Insurrection' in 1966. Kevin McCann seems to have great ambitions for his project but surely it's too late now for him to get a full length movie filmed and ready for release in less than twelve months?!

longshanks · 20-04-2015 12:38AM

DVDM93 wrote: »

Stalingrad 1, Stalingrad 2 and Stalingrad 3.

Stalingrad.

Stalingradder.

Stalingraddest.

JacquesDeLad · 20-04-2015 12:42AM

There's plenty of 1916 stuff, of the Rising and at the Somme etc.

Not so much about the Irish during WWII or what revolutionaries were doing in the '50s. Huge gaps in history to be filled by adventurous, and maybe brave, film makers.

the_syco · 20-04-2015 12:48AM

Are you my Daddy wrote: »

Why no movies about the eastern front in world war two?

Have you seen Outpost yet? You can't kill a good Nazi!

=-=

Worked in the cinema when "Wind That Shakes the Barley" came out. It's the only film I know that had an audience for every showing, and they only stopped showing it two weeks before it came out on DVD!

=-=

1916 has a **** ending, so either you a) mess with what actually happened or b) portray the brits as filthy inhumane monsters, or c) cut to the credits with the lines "and everyone was shot that day", or something to that line.

PTH2009 · 20-04-2015 12:54AM

Maybe a drunken thing but I have a scary feeling the uda or someone might plan an attack during the celebbratory thing next year there are some sick ****ers around

OU812 · 20-04-2015 01:11AM

I suggest you check out Mise Eire.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2DzTCKnUqM

OU812 · 20-04-2015 01:16AM

Actually, there's room for a decent six part TV drama (more so than a movie) in the style of Strumpet city telling the story from different perspectives (even a black & tan or british soldier). RTE do great drama, I'm surprised they didn't do anything. It's too late now to have anything on by April 24th next year, they'd want to be already filming.

Goat the dote · 20-04-2015 08:40AM

There was a 10 part programme on tg4. If you look up 1916 documentary on YouTube it comes up. Parts of it are subtitled but it's very good

conorhal · 20-04-2015 09:41AM

OU812 wrote: »

Actually, there's room for a decent six part TV drama (more so than a movie) in the style of Strumpet city telling the story from different perspectives (even a black & tan or british soldier). RTE do great drama, I'm surprised they didn't do anything. It's too late now to have anything on by April 24th next year, they'd want to be already filming.

I agree, and you'd have thought that given the anniversary and all that some major production would have been in the works, I however and far from surprised that RTE didn't, I'd fire the lot of them and put the TG4 producers in charge in a heartbeat.

topper75 · 20-04-2015 10:01AM

worded wrote: »

I'm sure these people had passion and fire in their bellies fighting for ireland with their lives

We have keyboard warriors now with dough nuts in theirs

I thought Ireland was already there in 1916. In fact I think there were people here 9000 years ago.

I think they were fighting for control of Ireland. Not so noble really when you see it that way. And especially not when you see that many of them were staunch adherents to a religious cult. That really struck me when I toured Kilmainham Gaol and Collins Barracks. The letters and sentiments in them gave me the impression that they weren't much different from the Islamic fundamentalists of today - the Vatican was their Mecca and British rule the great Satan.

We see patriots as men with guns in their hands and wonder then why we are unsatisfied with our country today.
Patriots aren't dead guys in books. Patriots are the people you see around you picking up litter for tidy towns, coaching youth on sports field etc. If not constructive, then a patriot is nothing to me.

Pumpkinseeds · 20-04-2015 11:07AM

TheMilkyPirate wrote: »

WTF is this ****? Is it fashionable these days to not care about your national history. A lot of people care including me, those men that fought had more courage and pride in their small toe than you ever will.

Many people share his/her sentiment. I haven't heard any of my friends or family discuss 1916 because WE DON'T CARE, and indifference to the Easter rising is the prevalent attitude in this country. It's not about courage, so get off that high horse before you fall and do yourself a mischief.

TheBeardedLady · 20-04-2015 11:11AM

The One Doctor wrote: »

I don't think anyone cares about 1916 anymore. I certainly don't.

Ah well if you don't then no one does, obviously.

gandalf · 20-04-2015 11:13AM

Michael Bay is making one.

http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2014/05/14/michael-bay-to-direct-1916-rising-movie/

conorhal · 20-04-2015 11:16AM

Pumpkinseeds wrote: »

Many people share his/her sentiment. I haven't heard any of my friends or family discuss 1916 because WE DON'T CARE, and indifference to the Easter rising is the prevalent attitude in this country. It's not about courage, so get off that high horse before you fall and do yourself a mischief.

More people upvote cat videos on youtube then bother to vote, which explains the state of modern representitive democracy in the the western world. The Eurocrats and their Corporate masters have done a great job of spreading apathy.

valoren · 20-04-2015 11:17AM

I'd be sure that there are some documentaries in production to co-incide with the centenary.

Give me a quality written and well narrated documentary instead of a populist, crappily accented "Give up yer oul occupation" style movie anyday.

Pumpkinseeds · 20-04-2015 11:33AM

conorhal wrote: »

More people upvote cat videos on youtube then bother to vote, which explains the state of modern representitive democracy in the the western world. The Eurocrats and their Corporate masters have done a great job of spreading apathy.

The Easter rising was a bloodbath that couldn't possibly have resulted in victory. It was done a month after England declared war on Germany, with the intent that the Irish uprising would rely on German support. 350 thousand Irish fought in the war against Germany. 30 thousand Irish died in the war against Germany. The Irish leaders thought we should be supported by Germany. What a bunch of wan*ers.

Insect Overlord · 20-04-2015 01:54PM

TG4 did a fantastic series about the men behind the rising.

1916 - Seachtar na Cásca, and the sequel 1916 - Seachtar Dearmadta.

Well worth watching, and plenty of it is done in English too.

Witcher · 20-04-2015 03:50PM

Pumpkinseeds wrote: »

The Easter rising was a bloodbath that couldn't possibly have resulted in victory. It was done a month after England declared war on Germany, with the intent that the Irish uprising would rely on German support. 350 thousand Irish fought in the war against Germany. 30 thousand Irish died in the war against Germany. The Irish leaders thought we should be supported by Germany. What a bunch of wan*ers.

What?

Grandeeod · 20-04-2015 07:33PM

Director Michael Cimino originally proposed a movie about the rising back in the 1980s. He wanted to close O'Connell street for a few weeks! Eventually he got attached to what became the Michael Collins movie. He was removed due to budget concerns. Neill Jordan got his version made instead.

Why no movies about 1916?

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