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Have you ever been treated differently because of your 'race'?

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,119 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    I'm a white male, age 18 to 49. Everyone listens to me -- no matter how dumb my suggestions are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,191 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    I'm a white male, age 18 to 49. Everyone listens to me -- no matter how dumb my suggestions are.

    So you think being white and male is an advantage?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,752 ✭✭✭pablomakaveli


    So you think being white and male is an advantage?

    Not when you go to the annual African ladies conference.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭Tarzana2


    So you think being white and male is an advantage?

    Whoosh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭irish son


    Yeah my father didn't disown me when I came out caucasian.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Berserker wrote: »
    I think you could have handled that a lot better. She probably thinks that Irish people are aggressive, unsympathetic and rude now too.

    100%.I was just drunk and tired.I was in the mood to try school some lunatic so I just tore into her and explained that I wouldn't expect a white south African to be sympathetic to the irish anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,191 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Tarzana2 wrote: »
    Whoosh.

    Yeah?

    Something to say?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭irish son


    Yeah?

    Something to say?

    Its a quote from the Simpsons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 981 ✭✭✭Stojkovic


    smurgen wrote: »
    Was in a group of professional at a work function in Geneva and a south African white woman wouldn't communicate with me cause I was irish.she'd a few drinks and walked over to me in the bar and went on a rant about how the irish were treacherous terrorists that her friend lost an eye in an ira bombing.literally one of the worst people I've met and worst still I rose to the bait.i called her everything under the sun and she was literally frothing at the mouth.
    A white South African calling the Irish treacherous terrorists haha !!!!

    Most horrible race on the planet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,712 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    Berserker wrote: »
    I think you could have handled that a lot better. She probably thinks that Irish people are aggressive, unsympathetic and rude now too.

    Need that Spitting Image clip.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Ghost Buster


    No but some bitch one stereo typed me based solely on my date of birth and the alignment of the planets at the time.
    Its shocking:eek:


  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I've been bullied for being English. I was told to go home and get myself bombed in primary school, and I've been called a Brit bi**h more than an couple of times on a night out in Ireland. I know it's only the few though, so I don't let it get to me. Once I tried to book a b&b in Cork and was told they don't take bookings off Brits. Again, isolated cases and most of the time people don't give my nationality a second thought.

    On the reception Irish people get compared to British people abroad, I've never been on the receiving end of rudeness or inexplicably lost bookings or whatever.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,043 ✭✭✭Berserker


    Candie wrote: »
    On the reception Irish people get compared to British people abroad, I've never been on the receiving end of rudeness or inexplicably lost bookings or whatever.

    I find this strange too. I've never had any issues with bookings abroad either. Always been welcomed wherever I travelled.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 787 ✭✭✭folamh


    Some American friends have no issue making jokes about my Irishness. Just stupid stuff, nothing that would indicate that they believe the Irish are racially or genetically inferior etc. At the end of the day I'm glad to be able to walk down the street without people glaring at me with contempt like some do to people of colour.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,191 ✭✭✭Eugene Norman


    I'll concede to that, I didn't realise the UN had a slightly different definition. Fair point, they are Caucasians. Those from Pakistan are often singled out by the colour of their skin in comparison to those who are white and speak English, that is why I would consider that racism. However, and I don't want to derail the thread so I'm leaving it at this. Within the Irish context I would see that kind of behaviour as more xenaphobia than racism unless it was a black man attacking a white man or vice versa. :) Anyway racism or xenophobia or bigotry is bad and only displayed by ignorant and foolish people and that'd the point of this thread.:)

    This kind of stuff is just nonsense. Firstly if you believe that race is just a social construct then you can't also limit racism to whatever you think are racial groups because the racist bigot could see himself as belonging to a superior Anglo Saxon "race" and feel superior to the Irish "race". Secondly if you follow this stupidity to its limits the Nazis were not racist since jews and Slavs are white. Or Israeli settlers aren't racist because Arabs are Semites. It's just rubbish.

    You can be racist at the ethnic level.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭laugh


    I live in South Asia for 3-4 months a year, so every time I step outside my door while there pretty much I get treated differently because of my race.

    People randomly asking to take pictures with you, restaurants giving you extra special treatment, supermarkets opening a till just so you don't have to queue, taxi's pulling over all the time (instead of ignoring everyone trying to wave them down).

    Takes a bit of getting used to.

    Where exactly is this? What months won't incinerate a pale freckly celt?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,191 ✭✭✭Eugene Norman


    I'm a white male, age 18 to 49. Everyone listens to me -- no matter how dumb my suggestions are.

    Oh stop with the quoting of dumb American identity politics ****. You're Irish, Not just white and plenty of people around the world will have prejudice based on your ethnicity as we can see from this thread. Try singing a Fenian song in east Belfast to see how far your whiteness takes you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,191 ✭✭✭Eugene Norman


    irish son wrote: »
    Its a quote from the Simpsons.

    Yellow privilege.


  • Posts: 3,444 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Oh stop with the quoting of dumb American identity politics ****. You're Irish, Not just white and plenty of people around the world will have prejudice based on your ethnicity as we can see from this thread. Try singing a Fenian song in east Belfast to see how far your whiteness takes you.

    Wow, It was a joke :pac:

    Take a chill pill.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,439 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    Not when you go to the annual African ladies conference.


    Actually being a white male at the annual African ladies conference, you may be surprised at the rather warm welcome you receive! :D

    Actually that reminds me, heh, y'know that saying about "Once you go black, yada yada"? This one particular black woman thought that highly of herself she was convinced that white men weren't as good in bed as black men...

    I have to admit, 'twas one of those times I really, really enjoyed smashing someone's preconceived ideas about people...

    *cough* :p


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,073 ✭✭✭pauliebdub


    Only in Northern Ireland, it's a place that contains some seriously vile people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,039 ✭✭✭garra


    Yes plenty of times, probably on a daily basis.

    Worst was in south america, taxi drivers in Bogota and Medellin charged me a LOT more than south american looking people would have had to pay.

    And worst still was the taxi driver in Bangkok who took me from airport to a place near Koasan road. Stopped the cab and I paid him over the seat. All settled up he opened his door as if to get out and open the boot for my backpack, and I got out.
    I was stretching and I noticed he hadn't got out, and was now pulling away from the kerb.
    All I had was my passport and wallet, but thoughtfully the driver didn't stop at the hostel, instead he stopped right outside a police station to make it easy for me to report the crime. Nice touch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,073 ✭✭✭pauliebdub


    the_syco wrote: »
    Over in France, in Nantes, and couldn't find a hotel or B&B to stay two nights, as no-one spoke "english".

    Curiously, when I asked if they spoke "Irelande", BIG attitude difference. Got a room easily (after showing Irish passport) for the gang of 6 or so people. Found if asked people spoke Irelande in pubs, got a friendlier response.

    I get this a lot in Spain as well, people respond to me better when they realise I'm Irish, there's often a poor perception of English people in Spain.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Why would White Irish people care what other White Europeans have to say ? Next you will be telling us Doing an Irish accent is Racist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 787 ✭✭✭folamh


    Why would White Irish people care what other White Europeans have to say ? Next you will be telling us Doing an Irish accent is Racist.

    in b4 "it is"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,752 ✭✭✭pablomakaveli


    pauliebdub wrote: »
    Only in Northern Ireland, it's a place that contains some seriously vile people.

    Funnily enough all the people i've met from a unionist background living in England i've got on quite well with and haven't displayed any bigotry towards me which was a surprise. People from certain parts of Scotland are a lot worse.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,520 ✭✭✭allibastor


    Group of black guys in laois wouldnt let me join a soccer Match cause i was white and they were doing an african league


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    folamh wrote: »
    in b4 "it is"

    I'm not Irish, Have lived a very long time and developed half an accent. Does that mean I'm a closet Racist. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,476 ✭✭✭ardmacha


    I had to pay 10 times as much in Asia, because of my race.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,439 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    allibastor wrote: »
    Group of black guys in laois wouldnt let me join a soccer Match cause i was white and they were doing an african league


    Need to change your username to alabaster :pac:


    Ala... what? Always used crack me up that one :D


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