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Paris Roubaix 2015 (contains spoilers)

  • 08-04-2015 11:45AM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,527 ✭✭✭✭


    A slightly early thread, but I think this year's edition is deserving of a good build up :)

    The final cobbled classic of 2015 comes this Sunday, and although many of the teams still have not been announced yet we have a very large list of possible contenders for the win. Cancellara and Boonen will definitely be missing due to injury, which opens the door for a large number of other riders.

    Firstly, the course.

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    There are 27 sectors of pavé on the route, with the only notable change being the Carrefour de l'Arbre being upgraded to a 5* difficulty, along with the Arenberg trench and Mons-en-Pévèle. ASO's Thierry Govenou says the Carrefour de l'Arbre is even worse than last year. "With time, the Carrefour de l’Arbre has got harder and harder. In terms of difficulty, it’ll be right up there with the Arenberg Forest this year. Over the whole sector, I don’t think there’s a single level cobblestone."

    The other aspect of any Paris Roubaix course is whether the riders will be contending with dust (dry) or mud (wet). There is at least a 50% chance of rain on Saturday, but it expected to have fully cleared up by the race on Sunday.

    After his peerless early season form, Alexander Kristoff will rightly go into Sunday as favourite (5/1). Kristoff has an outstanding record in the cobbled hills of the Tour of Flanders, not finishing outside of the top 5 for the last 3 years, although his Paris-Roubaix record is not as strong as some of his competitors.

    Despite losing Boonen, Etixx Quickstep will almost certainly still go into Sunday with the strongest team on paper. They are yet to confirm their team, but last year's winner and Tours of Flanders runner-up Niki Terpstra and his team-mate Sep Vanmarcke Stijn Vandenbergh are likely to be joint leaders, although Zdenek Stybar will be a valuable alternative option should Terpstra or Vanmarckedenbergh struggle.

    Bradley Wiggins (8/1) has made no secret of his desire to win at Roubaix, whether he has the ability to do so is a contentious matter. Doubts hover over his tactility nous and mental resolve, and his early-season form does not compare well with the riders above. However, he will be desperate to finish his road career with a bang, and his solid performance in last year's edition is reason for optimism.

    Peter Sagan's (12/1) struggles are well known, and the pressure is building. Despite having won the last 3 green jerseys in the Tour de France, his inability to put away a big monument win is mysterious. He rode a clever Tour of Flanders, finishing fourth, but lacked the power to pursue van Avermaet who took the last place on the podium.

    My own pick for this race is Lars Boom (18/1). Astana are also sending a very capable squad, featuring Grivko, Westra and Bozic to support Boom. A more leader-focused team than I expect Etixx Quickstep will be, Boom took a notable win on last year's pavé stage of the Tour de France.

    See also Van Avermaet (16/1), Degenkolb (8/1)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 227 ✭✭Euro Fred


    Best race of the year IMO


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,279 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    Looks like the roads are in great nick

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,135 ✭✭✭✭neris


    Cant see wiggins doing anything in this. Watching him last week looked like he wanted to be anywhere but on his bike. Etixx to take it Terpstra if steinbergh doesnt get in his way


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,716 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    Despite losing Boonen, Etixx Quickstep will almost certainly still go into Sunday with the strongest team on paper. They are yet to confirm their team, but last year's winner and Tours of Flanders runner-up Niki Terpstra and his team-mate Sep Vanmarcke are likely to be joint leaders, although Zdenek Stybar will be a valuable alternative option should Terpstra or Vanmarcke struggle.

    @Darkglasses

    You've got Sep Vanmarcke (Lotto-NL Jumbo) mixed up with Stijn Vandenbergh.

    You can edit your post and delete this one to save you from the shame and embarrassment :D :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,527 ✭✭✭✭Darkglasses


    @Darkglasses

    You've got Sep Vanmarcke (Lotto-NL Jumbo) mixed up with Stijn Vandenbergh.

    You can edit your post and delete this one to save you from the shame and embarrassment :D :P

    They all look the same to me :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,831 ✭✭✭ROK ON


    Stybar for me.
    But at some stage Van Avermaet will take a classic. With Tom and Fabian on the injured list there is about 12 guys who cannot be ruled out.
    Would like to have seen Wiggo do it but he simply hasn't shown the form. As Fabian would say there is a difference between goals and dreams.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭CptMackey


    Really looking forward to this. Very hard to see sagan doing it as much as I would like to see him win.

    Wiggins would love to do it but not sure he would have it in him.

    If it rains it will be anybody's race


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,302 ✭✭✭Decuc500


    Geraint Thomas has a good chance. I think this race suits him more than Flanders.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,356 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    @Jep, is that really the type of roads the race goes down? it is incredible that the whole thing manages to get through at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,527 ✭✭✭✭Darkglasses


    Leroy42 wrote: »
    @Jep, is that really the type of roads the race goes down? it is incredible that the whole thing manages to get through at all.

    Not on race day - a group of about a dozen volunteers called "Les Amis de Paris Roubaix" do maintenance work on the cobbled sections, so the surface itself isn't so muddy. However that kind of flooding is entirely possible - it was this bad during Sky's recon ride earlier this week

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    Here's a video of the group at work -



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,075 ✭✭✭gman2k


    Kelly has gone for Thomas on his blog.
    My money (via Paddy Power) is on Terpstra, got him at 14/1 a couple of months back.
    Any of the top riders in the last month are capable of the win.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,527 ✭✭✭✭Darkglasses


    gman2k wrote: »
    Kelly has gone for Thomas on his blog.
    My money (via Paddy Power) is on Terpstra, got him at 14/1 a couple of months back.
    Any of the top riders in the last month are capable of the win.

    Betting months in advance seems to be the way to go. I got Lars Boom e/w at 33/1 ages ago. I did have a bit of a heart-attack when I thought Astana's licence would be revoked, but I think I would have gotten my money back in that case anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,716 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    If you haven't seen "A Sunday in Hell", it's well worth a watch before the race. It's a documentary about the 1977 Paris-Roubaix.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,697 ✭✭✭Taxuser1


    I've it down to 4 riders in varying scenarios. In a plain old power slog, it's hard to see past John Degenkolb 9/1 or Kristoff but the Norwegian has no form here. Degs on the other hand was only beaten by numbers of Quick Step last year but he followed every Vanmarcke and Cancellara dig.

    Sagan 16/1 rode a fantastic race here last year and looks to be coming back to shape, if he improves 1 or 2% on Flanders he's got a massive chance.

    GVA is my other market pick, 16/1 is massive with his e/w form to date. I'm waiting until in-running for Lars Boom , he's far too short now even at 20/1 with only a recent showing at Flanders to his name and a 6th place back in 2012 here. But I rate him if he's still there after Carrefour de l'arbe with 20kms to go. Type to slip away a la Terpstra.

    Thomas may have peaked last week and must be tired now, been competitive since Paris Nice. Terpstra is too short in the markets to back as is Stybar. In running bets on them if at all. Their harmony pre Flanders may be put to the test if Terpstra attacks before Stybar this week. Terpstra took an age to get back in last year and only with Wiggins and Boonen's help. Took his chance well though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,817 ✭✭✭marvin80


    Looking forward to this race.

    I'm backing Degenkolb at 8/1 - tipping along nicely this year and did well in this race last year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 830 ✭✭✭Koobcam


    Taxuser1 wrote: »
    I've it down to 4 riders in varying scenarios. In a plain old power slog, it's hard to see past John Degenkolb 9/1 or Kristoff but the Norwegian has no form here. Degs on the other hand was only beaten by numbers of Quick Step last year but he followed every Vanmarcke and Cancellara dig.

    Kristoff did finish 9th a couple of years back and is in supreme form (looks like he might be about to bag another win now in the schnidepris), so I'd be thinking he is as good a bet as any.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,116 ✭✭✭bazermc


    If you haven't seen "A Sunday in Hell", it's well worth a watch before the race. It's a documentary about the 1977 Paris-Roubaix.

    Road to roubaix is also worth a watch.

    Apart from the 30 seconds where Lance says he always wished he had ridden it. News Flash lance! You never would have been able to, drugs wont help you win this one, and roubaix is for the tough men, of which you are not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,356 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    bazermc wrote: »
    drugs wont help you win this one,

    I think you'll find that they probably do!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,145 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    Weatherwise - bit of light rain forecast for the afternoon. Temperatures between 10 and 16 degrees. Light south westerly.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,164 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Decuc500 wrote: »
    Geraint Thomas has a good chance. I think this race suits him more than Flanders.

    I politely disagree, Thomas has good climbing legs and should in theory be better suited to the Tour of Flanders.

    I shall be back Peter Sagan. I've picked the winners of the first 2 monuments this year.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 487 ✭✭drogdub


    Weatherwise - bit of light rain forecast for the afternoon. Temperatures between 10 and 16 degrees. Light south westerly.

    I think Kelly was saying that the worst thing weatherwise is when it's been raining during the week but dry on the day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,606 ✭✭✭MPFG


    My favourite race of the year also

    Lots of riders to chose from but if in form Stannard is a good e/w bet
    And Wiggo a good each way bet ...he hasn't shown any form but he is an stubborn and obstinate so and so and you cannot see him not putting on a good show

    Stybar is a good bet for the win

    But it a bit of an obstacle race and anything can and will happen


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 487 ✭✭drogdub


    After watching Terpstra in Flanders last year I went for him in Roubaix. I will do the same this year. Actually this is what I tweeted to Last year before the race https://twitter.com/drogdub/status/452192508333027329


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 724 ✭✭✭JK.BMC


    Looking like a dry, fast, bike-handling hammerfest, similar to 2011, 2013. Sounds like it should suit the big mulluckers like Sagan, Degenkolb and Terpstra, though I'm avoiding any bets till after Arenberg and see what way Sky/Lotto are fixed as they have shown themselves at the front a lot on this seasons cobbles. It would actually be great to see Wiggins make the key selection minus the team so he would have to grind it out regardless and there would be no leadership questions to use as an excuse. Many of the great champions have had to do it the hard way to Roubaix (Terpstra didnt really) so lets have ya Sir Brad on Sunday, going toe-to-toe with the best classics riders around.! Just for the drama it would be well worth it

    Realisticly, he probably wont win. Andre Greipel probably wont either but if the German Giant is still hanging tough around Carrefour de l'Arbre, then what a finale we will have as nobody wants him on the wheel entering the velodrome.

    What chance a French win? Overdue? Demare had rotten luck last year and still was just outside top10; his year may come in time. I fancy Damian 'bag of spanners' Gaudin for top French finisher, fairly guaranteed to go on one of his heroicly misjudged attacks in the final 60km or so, and could be still up there coming in to the finale

    Lots to ponder!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,527 ✭✭✭✭Darkglasses


    JK.BMC wrote: »
    Looking like a dry, fast, bike-handling hammerfest, similar to 2011, 2013. Sounds like it should suit the big mulluckers like Sagan, Degenkolb and Terpstra, though I'm avoiding any bets till after Arenberg and see what way Sky/Lotto are fixed as they have shown themselves at the front a lot on this seasons cobbles. It would actually be great to see Wiggins make the key selection minus the team so he would have to grind it out regardless and there would be no leadership questions to use as an excuse. Many of the great champions have had to do it the hard way to Roubaix (Terpstra didnt really) so lets have ya Sir Brad on Sunday, going toe-to-toe with the best classics riders around.! Just for the drama it would be well worth it

    Realisticly, he probably wont win. Andre Greipel probably wont either but if the German Giant is still hanging tough around Carrefour de l'Arbre, then what a finale we will have as nobody wants him on the wheel entering the velodrome.

    What chance a French win? Overdue? Demare had rotten luck last year and still was just outside top10; his year may come in time. I fancy Damian 'bag of spanners' Gaudin for top French finisher, fairly guaranteed to go on one of his heroicly misjudged attacks in the final 60km or so, and could be still up there coming in to the finale

    Lots to ponder!

    Gaudin's a great shout I think (150/1), a really capable rider on the cobbles. Wish he was on a better classics team though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,338 ✭✭✭Lusk_Doyle


    Gaudin's a great shout I think (150/1), a really capable rider on the cobbles. Wish he was on a better classics team though.

    I recall him being out on his own off the front a few years ago while riding for Europcar. He's a hulk on the bike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,574 ✭✭✭ZiabR


    Sagan has a chance I think. Even an E/W bet on him is a good one. I can see him on the podium at least.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,390 ✭✭✭lennymc


    As an homage to the Paris Roubaix, I've been cycling on as many Luas tracks as I can. Our very own Pave.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,527 ✭✭✭✭Darkglasses


    Lusk_Doyle wrote: »
    I recall him being out on his own off the front a few years ago while riding for Europcar. He's a hulk on the bike.

    Yup, that's probably the best way to describe him!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,697 ✭✭✭Taxuser1


    Gaudin is not the same rider he was with Europcar. Neither is Turgot.

    Terpstra was dropped last year and only for the riding of Wiggins and Boonen and the complete lack of interest in working up front by the 5 away, he'd never have gotten his chance.


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