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Should British soldiers killed in 1916 get a memorial?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 251 ✭✭Your Superior


    Don't you mean another country that you lost?

    Yes, and I'll make the joke slowly again, it's one that we USED to own... Now try it to the tune of Gotye...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    I propose that the portaloo's on O'Connell street during the reenactments be dedicated to the British aoldiers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 643 ✭✭✭Geniass


    Don't you mean another country that you lost?

    Which country lost the most territory due to WW1. It could be argued that Britain did.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 251 ✭✭Your Superior


    smash wrote: »
    I propose that the portaloo's on O'Connell street during the reenactments be dedicated to the British aoldiers.

    And reciprocally we shall let the toilets in Leicester Square serve as a fitting memorial to Bobby Sands et al.

    Fair's fair, no?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Don't you have a shopping centre to bomb?
    :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 643 ✭✭✭Geniass


    Yes, and I'll make the joke slowly again, it's one that we USED to own... Now try it to the tune of Gotye...

    We weren't a colony. By 1918 we had proportionately more MPs in Westminster than England had.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    And reciprocally we shall let the toilets in Leicester Square serve as a fitting memorial to Bobby Sands et al.

    Fair's fair, no?
    Slightly different....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Maybe we can push for simming world to be renamed the bobby sands weight loss championships


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,335 ✭✭✭wendell borton


    The British don't even recognise the rising as a conflict and have no memorials for those who died defending the empire, so I don't see why the republic should provide one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 251 ✭✭Your Superior


    smash wrote: »
    Slightly different....

    Only if you're Irish.

    The good guys or terrorists decision depends on which side you are on.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,484 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    Don't you have a shopping centre to bomb?

    Oh your mask slipped. Thought you forgot all about wee little Ireland where you were born and raised?:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,679 ✭✭✭Crooked Jack


    Gatling wrote: »
    Maybe we can push for simming world to be renamed the bobby sands weight loss championships

    ???...:confused:
    oh... wait...because of the hungerstrikes. I get it now :pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:

    That's so original, how did you come up with that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    ???...:confused:
    oh... wait...because of the hungerstrikes. I get it now :pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:

    That's so original, how did you come up with that?

    Didnt take much


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,599 ✭✭✭DublinWriter


    Many of the Sherwood Foresters who landed in Kingston (now Dun Laoghaire) thought that they had arrived in France and were kept ignorant of the situation by their officers.

    Roughly 350 British soldiers were killed on the approach to Mount St. Bridge.

    I don't think we Irish will ever get over ourselves to make the kind of remark that Mustafa Kemal Ataturk made in 1934 regarding the once enemy soldiers that he once fought against at Gallipoli:

    “Those heroes that shed their blood
    And lost their lives.
    You are now lying in the soil of a friendly country.
    Therefore, rest in peace.
    There is no difference between the Johnnies
    And the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side
    Here in this country of ours,
    You, the mothers,
    Who sent their sons from far away countries
    Wipe away your tears,
    Your sons are now lying in our bosom
    And are in peace
    After having lost their lives on this land they have
    Become our sons as well”.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 251 ✭✭Your Superior


    smash wrote: »
    Slightly different....

    Only if you're Irish.

    The good guys or terrorists decision depends on which side you are on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Only if you're Irish.

    The good guys or terrorists decision depends on which side you are on.

    You're talking about 'terrorism', I'm talking about invading a country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 251 ✭✭Your Superior


    Ush1 wrote: »
    Oh your mask slipped. Thought you forgot all about wee little Ireland where you were born and raised?:)

    I was born and raised there to an English mother and American father, and was replying to a comment asking if I didn't have a genocide to go and commit. But I suppose that comment was just fine...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 251 ✭✭Your Superior


    smash wrote: »
    You're talking about 'terrorism', I'm talking about invading a country.

    So IRA bombs that killed children in the UK were ok? What an evil little mind you must have.


  • Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Many of the Sherwood Foresters who landed in Kingston (now Dun Laoghaire) thought that they had arrived in France and were kept ignorant of the situation by their officers.

    Was the Welcome to Kingstown sign not a giveaway?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,484 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    I was born and raised there to an English mother and American father, and was replying to a comment asking if I didn't have a genocide to go and commit. But I suppose that comment was just fine...

    I'm guessing your father wasn't native American? And yet you clearly don't consider yourself Irish despite being born and raised here. Or do you?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,115 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    Zillah wrote: »
    Odd how sanguine people are over a bunch of young lads from London or Liverpool or a farm in Devon getting killed because their superiors told them to do what they were trained and paid to do. Mostly just kids likely horrified that they were suddenly in a real war, shot to bits to bleed out on O'Connell St.

    So you want to commemorate British soldiers as victims of British rule? It should be up to us Irish to commemorate these British soldier victims of British rule?

    How bizarre.
    I'm sure they were all baby-eating monsters because that's what British people are though, right?

    Such a silly strawman.
    Pearse spinning in his grave blah blah nationalistic stupidity blah Connelly

    I'm always amused by the ramblings of anti-nationalist pseuds. You've stated you're not against British soldiers being commemorated. British. That's a stance that's sympathetic to soldiers of the British nation. Irish Nationalism bad British Nationalism good?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    So IRA bombs that killed children in the UK were ok? What an evil little mind you must have.

    I never once said or alluded to that. What an fcuked up little mind you must have to come to such a conclusion!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,706 ✭✭✭valoren


    I'd imagine the soldiers were buried?

    They do have a memorial already that way.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Many of the Sherwood Foresters who landed in Kingston (now Dun Laoghaire) thought that they had arrived in France and were kept ignorant of the situation by their officers.

    Roughly 350 British soldiers were killed on the approach to Mount St. Bridge.

    That's the number of casualties, the number actually killed was quite a bit lower, around 30.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,111 ✭✭✭✭Panthro


    Well they can go and fock right off


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 251 ✭✭Your Superior


    Ush1 wrote: »
    I'm guessing your father wasn't native American? And yet you clearly don't consider yourself Irish despite being born and raised here. Or do you?

    Correct, I don't consider myself Irish, it's just where I was born. Like how Shane McGowan was born in England, and countless others who profess their Irishness.
    I'm English and American. That's my blood.

    Now, oddly enough I have a plane to catch for a meeting in Cork tomorrow. Have fun folks, keep fighting the imaginary fight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,924 ✭✭✭ronivek


    Ush1 wrote: »
    I'm guessing your father wasn't native American? And yet you clearly don't consider yourself Irish despite being born and raised here. Or do you?

    Didn't his attitude (oddly appropriate name, too) and his constant referral to "owning" other countries give it away?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,484 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    Correct, I don't consider myself Irish, it's just where I was born. Like how Shane McGowan was born in England, and countless others who profess their Irishness.
    I'm English and American. That's my blood.

    Now, oddly enough I have a plane to catch for a meeting in Cork tomorrow. Have fun folks, keep fighting the imaginary fight.

    ...and raised you said? Surely your father isn't American then, it's just where he was born and raised? MacGowans early childhood was in Tipperary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,484 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    ronivek wrote: »
    Didn't his attitude (oddly appropriate name, too) and his constant referral to "owning" other countries give it away?

    Seems oddly conflicted between saying he is not Irish and that the Irish are obsessed with conflict with England yet refuses to acknowledge being anyway Irish himself, thus drawing a line between the two.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,821 ✭✭✭floggg


    He didn't "die" he was murdered. We don't feel the need to erect statues of everyone murdered by the IRA though, indeed even that part of history is now seen as the past and has been moved on from. You should try it.

    At the risk of giving you the attention you clearly crave, for somebody who says they don't care about these things, you sure do spend a lot of time caring about them.


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