children away from their parents in the pub

ceadaoin. wrote: »

I didn't abandon her or let her run riot and I think I'm representative of the vast majority of parents.

Fair play to you, that's great but you are not representative of the vast majority of parents.

ceadaoin. wrote: »

I actually can't remember a time when a child has ever disrupted a meal or social occasion.

You're either extremely lucky or lying.

ceadaoin. wrote: »

I'm not lying. I don't consider merely hearing a baby crying or a child speaking to be that big a deal. Of course, if you are someone that has a problem with kids being in certain places you are bound to be over sensitive. Children are a part of society, deal with it. I have never had a meal ruined by kids running around a restaurant that I can remember. Likewise with pubs. So I can only conclude that most parents don't let their kids run riot.

I can remember some occasions where rowdy or rude adults have bothered me though. I don't write off all of society because of it.

Sure, I believe you :pac:

Stheno wrote: »

I'm out having dinner at the moment in a local hotel.

Ten minutes ago a woman came down with two kids under four, plonked them in the seat beside me and left them and went off. The kids started shouting down the room at her and she come s back with popcorn and a tablet of some sorts and plugs it in, then tells the kids she'll be down with grandad the other side of the bar.

When I asked her if she was going to leave the kids on their own she said yes as their toy needed to be charged. Eventually she decided that she would sit with them while the toy charges

Is this normal or is this woman just nuts?

Sadly this seems to be normal these days "to busy" to mind their own kids and do not think of harm of leaving them anywhere as long as they can get quiet time. In all honestly I seen far better fathers then mothers these days.

One of my old jobs had a woman I didn't know at all come in from head office and plonked her 7/8yr old child at my desk and said mind her and walked out as fast as she could.....I have no idea about kids really except how to mind them if they are sick and very little beyond that 0.o

I spent my day getting her to colour to keep her busy but really like I could have been anyone. She came back around 4hrs later from having lunch with her friends o.0 Every time the child seen me since then she clung to me for attention which to be honest I didn't mind I felt a bit bad for her just seemed like an accessory otherwise.

Another woman I know of goes into a coffee shop to unwind and read the latest magazines and leaves her 2 boys (6, 10 I think) run loose in a book shop wreaking the place as she relaxes across the forecourt of the shopping centre they are in ....staff can't really do anything about it. She just dumps them there and walks off, an hour or so later she will come back and pick them up

I always get a good laugh at these threads, you know the kids vs no kids(because apparantly you this is a thing now)

I can GUARANTEE with 100% certainty that for all of the people with no children who get mightly annoyed be them throwing a fit/crying/being loud or boisterous and say that they were never allowed to behave badly and were well mannered in public at all time are deluded.

Now I say, ask the PARENTS of the person saying this and they will have very different tale to tell. They will put you straight about the time that you embarrassed the hell out of them in the shops/church/bus....wherever.
Because as sure as the sun will rise tomorrow, you were no little angel all of the time yourself no matter what you think

One eyed Jack wrote: »

I guess it's just what you're used to will determine how you react in any given situation, and if you're not used to children behaving like children, then naturally you're going to find their behaviour irritating.

I do agree that "what you're used to will determine how you react" and for the vast majority of people, they have had to put up with a brat in public due to the inaction of a shítty parent, and your patience wears thin.

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Yes because everyone who disagrees with you is lying :rolleyes:

Yeah, that's exactly what I think. I better throw in a passive aggressive smiley to convey my thoughts on your level of intelligence :rolleyes:

Candie wrote: »

It's not a question of bold children invading every corner of civilised society, it's a question of tolerance and the sense of entitlement people have. Grown adults behaving as if they're assaulted every time a kid makes a sound, or complaining that they're all indulged, obese, playstation-addicted brats who aren't allowed play outside, and if the kids are outside they complain about the noisy brats ruining their peace and kicking their ball in plain sight while unsupervised by their neglectful, drink addled, dole scrounging parents.

I hope I'm never so precious or entitled that my day is ruined by a kid playing, or speaking, or moving. Or existing.

Don't forget the breathing. Little oxygen hoggers the lot of them

I've had situations with my own when they were young (2-4)when things are at their toughest imo. They pitched fits and tested boundaries. That's their JOB. That's how we learn to become adults, by testing boundaries and situations. They were corrected at the time and spoken to afterwards about it. On a couple of occasions no good could be gotten and we had to leave where we were. And they were REALLY spoken to about this.

But if people think that badly behaved children and poor parenting are a new thing, well think again. They are not.
And I can't for the life of me work out how people get so discommoded by this. Think about it this way....they ain't your kids so you dont have to live with them and therefore not your problem