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children away from their parents in the pub

  • 05-04-2015 08:02PM
    #1
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    I'm out having dinner at the moment in a local hotel.

    Ten minutes ago a woman came down with two kids under four, plonked them in the seat beside me and left them and went off. The kids started shouting down the room at her and she come s back with popcorn and a tablet of some sorts and plugs it in, then tells the kids she'll be down with grandad the other side of the bar.

    When I asked her if she was going to leave the kids on their own she said yes as their toy needed to be charged. Eventually she decided that she would sit with them while the toy charges

    Is this normal or is this woman just nuts?


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  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    She's nuts. And a bad mother. And an even worse fellow customer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 501 ✭✭✭sumsar


    Is it normal for people to be on boards on their phone while eating a dinner at a hotel?


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    sumsar wrote: »
    Is it normal for people to be on boards on their phone while eating a dinner at a hotel?

    I'm finished dinner and having a drink :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Thought the consensus from the last children in pubs was just to blow smoke in their face. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,902 ✭✭✭MagicIRL


    Offer the kids some sweets. Mother will swiftly move children.

    They'll **** off quicker if you wear a dodgy overcoat as you do it, too.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,473 ✭✭✭Wacker The Attacker


    Irresponsible doesnt even begin to cover this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,285 ✭✭✭Summer wind


    A total nut job. It's the children you have to feel sorry for.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    Sounds like a nutter but still at least she offers a tailor made opening for a 60 page thread about bad parenting and how people don't want children.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Irresponsible doesnt even begin to cover this.

    When I asked her if she was going to leave them on their own she was astounded that I even mentioned it she seemed to think it was perfectly acceptable to leave two small kids out of sight yelling at the top of their voices when they wanted attention

    She's since given out to all and sundry about my objecting to her leaving them lol


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    "If the licence holder is found guilty of allowing unsupervised children in his or her premises, a fine can be imposed on summary conviction in a District Court."

    Da law ^^^

    Have a quiet word with the bar manager ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 335 ✭✭bikermartin


    Phone the Gardai. I have no tolerance for this. I live beside some of types of mothers. They are usually ones where they are neglect in the home also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,208 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    Some people just couldn't give a shíte about their kids or anyone else for that matter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,199 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    My rule of thumb is to NEVER go out to eat on a Bank Holiday Weekend - during the day that is. Same applies to holidays, NEVER go on holidays when kids are off school.

    I don't have kids, but those who do often think EVERYONE loves their little brats. Eh, no, I don't.

    And I agree that some of those in charge of children think their kids are beautifully behaved, or on the other hand tut tut people like me and believe that kids will be kids, we have to give them sugar or some such rubbish.

    But to abandon kids like that is just normal these days, as long as they are within view. Or to allow them run riot is also fine it seems. God I was seen and not heard when I were a nipper. Too much mollycoddling of kids nowadays. Honestly.

    There is a certain eating establishment in Exchequer Street that does not allow kids after 6.30pm. My favourite place ever!

    Glad I got all that off me chest. Aaaaagh, feel much better now.

    Keep your kids away from me OK!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,384 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭Chucken


    My rule of thumb is to NEVER go out to eat on a Bank Holiday Weekend - during the day that is. Same applies to holidays, NEVER go on holidays when kids are off school.

    I don't have kids, but those who do often think EVERYONE loves their little brats. Eh, no, I don't.

    And I agree that some of those in charge of children think their kids are beautifully behaved, or on the other hand tut tut people like me and believe that kids will be kids, we have to give them sugar or some such rubbish.

    But to abandon kids like that is just normal these days, as long as they are within view. Or to allow them run riot is also fine it seems. God I was seen and not heard when I were a nipper. Too much mollycoddling of kids nowadays. Honestly.

    There is a certain eating establishment in Exchequer Street that does not allow kids after 6.30pm. My favourite place ever!

    Glad I got all that off me chest. Aaaaagh, feel much better now.

    Keep your kids away from me OK!!

    You think the children decided to go out this evening?

    There's a brat there ok, but it's not a child.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Chucken wrote: »
    You think the children decided to go out this evening?

    There's a brat there ok, but it's not a child.

    Yup at this hour the kids should be in bed


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    When I was a wain I got into the pub twice a year, when the turf were all home and the spuds were all gathered. For half an hour. One game of pool and one Football Special in a long glass. That was it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,816 ✭✭✭lulu1


    Irresponsible doesnt even begin to cover this.

    Thought exactly the same about your comment on a different thread.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    When I was a wain I got into the pub twice a year, when the turf were all home and the spuds were all gathered. For half an hour. One game of pool and one Football Special in a long glass. That was it.

    Then back to the mines.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,902 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    Gary Glitter, I beleive.

    He's on holidays, thankfully.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    When I was a wain I got into the pub twice a year, when the turf were all home and the spuds were all gathered. For half an hour. One game of pool and one Football Special in a long glass. That was it.

    Shure we all know you walked to school barefoot with chilblains in your chilblains


  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    My rule of thumb is to NEVER go out to eat on a Bank Holiday Weekend - during the day that is. Same applies to holidays, NEVER go on holidays when kids are off school.

    I don't have kids, but those who do often think EVERYONE loves their little brats. Eh, no, I don't.

    And I agree that some of those in charge of children think their kids are beautifully behaved, or on the other hand tut tut people like me and believe that kids will be kids, we have to give them sugar or some such rubbish.

    But to abandon kids like that is just normal these days, as long as they are within view. Or to allow them run riot is also fine it seems. God I was seen and not heard when I were a nipper. Too much mollycoddling of kids nowadays. Honestly.

    There is a certain eating establishment in Exchequer Street that does not allow kids after 6.30pm. My favourite place ever!

    Glad I got all that off me chest. Aaaaagh, feel much better now.

    Keep your kids away from me OK!!

    Isn't it just great the way racist and sexist language is frowned on, but it's still ok to refer to children as little brats?

    And the bolded paragraph just confuses me. Are they abandoned, or are they mollycoddled?

    Instead of asking people to keep their kids away from you, you'd do better all round to keep yourself away from kids.

    I'm not a parent, and the woman in the OP is completely in the wrong to leave her kids unsupervised in a hotel bar. No one should let their kids run riot around other people. But here's the thing, we're all members of a society and that includes kids. The world shouldn't revolve around just kids, but it doesn't revolve around just adults either.

    It never ceases to amaze me how many people get in a twist over the presence of kids, as though we all spring from the uterus as adults.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,199 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Chucken wrote: »
    You think the children decided to go out this evening?

    There's a brat there ok, but it's not a child.

    Agree, it's the parent/carer who is at fault.

    But my post was just saying do not go on Bank Holidays or School Holidays.

    Far better to make your own, or buy and M+S special deal for two, or order in, and relax.

    That's what I do. No matter where you go on BHs kids are running amok. Disgraceful parenting. But kids normally tell their parents what to do and what they want now!

    Kid's behaviour reflects the parent/carer attitude towards them.

    Seems to me that kids can do what they like now. Well SOME of them, ok.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 898 ✭✭✭petrolcan


    Stheno wrote: »
    Yup at this hour the kids should be in bed

    Says who?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    My rule of thumb is to NEVER go out to eat on a Bank Holiday Weekend - during the day that is. Same applies to holidays, NEVER go on holidays when kids are off school.

    I don't have kids, but those who do often think EVERYONE loves their little brats. Eh, no, I don't.

    And I agree that some of those in charge of children think their kids are beautifully behaved, or on the other hand tut tut people like me and believe that kids will be kids, we have to give them sugar or some such rubbish.

    But to abandon kids like that is just normal these days, as long as they are within view. Or to allow them run riot is also fine it seems. God I was seen and not heard when I were a nipper. Too much mollycoddling of kids nowadays. Honestly.

    There is a certain eating establishment in Exchequer Street that does not allow kids after 6.30pm. My favourite place ever!

    Glad I got all that off me chest. Aaaaagh, feel much better now.

    Keep your kids away from me OK!!

    Isn;t that but of a contradiction?

    Mollycoddled and ignored/allowed to run riot are two different things.

    As to the "seen and not heard" bit - that doesn't exist and never did. Unless the child in question never leaves the house.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,199 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Candie wrote: »
    Isn't it just great the way racist and sexist language is frowned on, but it's still ok to refer to children as little brats?

    And the bolded paragraph just confuses me. Are they abandoned, or are they mollycoddled?

    Instead of asking people to keep their kids away from you, you'd do better all round to keep yourself away from kids.

    I'm not a parent, and the woman in the OP is completely in the wrong to leave her kids unsupervised in a hotel bar. No one should let their kids run riot around other people. But here's the thing, we're all members of a society and that includes kids. The world shouldn't revolve around just kids, but it doesn't revolve around just adults either.

    It never ceases to amaze me how many people get in a twist over the presence of kids, as though we all spring from the uterus as adults.

    But we were supervised at all times, and were never let out of our parents' sight.

    Anyway, if you had bothered to read my post you will see that I do distance myself from children in an eating out setting. It ain't no fun anymore being surrounded by spoilt brats who think they own the place, and are not disciplined by their parents.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Candie wrote: »

    It never ceases to amaze me how many people get in a twist over the presence of kids, as though we all spring from the uterus as adults.

    I generally don't mind children around me but not unsupervised with their parents away drinking


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,052 ✭✭✭Un Croissant


    But to abandon kids like that is just normal these days, as long as they are within view. Or to allow them run riot is also fine it seems. God I was seen and not heard when I were a nipper. Too much mollycoddling of kids nowadays. Honestly.

    Does this make sense?

    Kids are mollycolled these days but also allowed to run riot by themselves?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Stheno wrote: »
    Shure we all know you walked to school barefoot with chilblains in your chilblains
    Went on the bus actually


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