Census 2016 - any new questions ?

Dom Phil Cobe · 10-03-2015 3:06pm #1

What new questions (if any) do you think should be asked on the census 2016 form ?

Ben D Bus · 10-03-2015 3:10pm

Just to be topical, a slight amendment to an existing question maybe?

Single
Widowed
Divorced
Married (Opposite Sex)
Married (Same sex)

monument · 10-03-2015 9:29pm

The commuting distance question should be reintroduced.

Munti-modal travel would be asked about -- ie do you use more than one mode per day or per week etc

LeinsterDub · 10-03-2015 9:32pm

Which of the following infrastructure projects we've no intention of building would you like us to pretend we are actually building in the next 5 years

Metro North
Dart underground
Luas F
Etc

Sam Russell · 10-03-2015 10:20pm

Where were you in 1916?

Tedddy · 11-03-2015 9:21pm

One's level of Irish.

Victor · 11-03-2015 10:08pm

They probably did a dry run with a few tens of thousands of people last year.

I took part in the trial they did in 2004.

feargale · 11-03-2015 10:15pm

Some of those questions put to GAA players in interviews published in match programmes, e.g.
1. What is your favourite meal?
2. Who was your most difficult opponent?
3. Who has been the greatest influence on your career?
4. Who is your favourite actress?

Why should footballers be asked these questions and not the rest of us?

antoobrien · 12-03-2015 1:11pm

Time starting & finishing school/work.

paulbok · 12-03-2015 3:17pm

Would you describe your home as:
a. made of cardboard
b. small cottage
c. modest apartment
d. regular 3 bed semi-d
e. large house on own site.
f. mansion/ Stately Home
g. castle
h. bog standard home

antoobrien · 13-03-2015 12:38pm

monument wrote: »

The commuting distance question should be reintroduced.

Munti-modal travel would be asked about -- ie do you use more than one mode per day or per week etc

Also something to the effect of if your commute is as a car passenger, is your trip the primary reason for the car journey. If not where is the driver going (work, education, other).

zetalambda · 18-03-2015 11:40am

How do they get the figs into a fig roll?

diomed · 21-03-2015 11:03am

What is your favourite colour?
Maybe a few questions about comuuters, broadband.

Aard · 27-03-2015 3:55pm

monument wrote: »

The commuting distance question should be reintroduced.

AFAIK the Census asks for your place of work. They then calculate the distance themselves and use it in their POWSCAR analysis. Unlike the other census answers, however, this is not released to the public.

antoobrien · 27-03-2015 3:59pm

Aard wrote: »

AFAIK the Census asks for your place of work. They then calculate the distance themselves and use it in their POWSCAR analysis. Unlike the other census answers, however, this is not released to the public.

It was a question in 2006.

Aard · 27-03-2015 4:10pm

Yes and I believe it was dropped due to people incorrectly estimating their distance travelled. By giving the CSO the address of POW they can get a more accurate calculation.

ardmacha · 27-03-2015 6:12pm

Aard wrote: »

AFAIK the Census asks for your place of work. They then calculate the distance themselves and use it in their POWSCAR analysis. Unlike the other census answers, however, this is not released to the public.

The individual data is not released, as is the case for all census data. But the aggregate data is is made available for analysis by the transport bodies and the like, e.g. that there are 200 people travelling from Naas to Dublin 4.

L1011 · 27-03-2015 9:35pm

Aard wrote: »

AFAIK the Census asks for your place of work. They then calculate the distance themselves and use it in their POWSCAR analysis. Unlike the other census answers, however, this is not released to the public.

My 2011 data is screwed then - I lived in the same town as now (different address) but my employers address was in Limerick.

My actual commute to work was a walk out the front door as I worked from my van.

Aard · 27-03-2015 10:28pm

Iirc there's a question on whether a person is a mobile worker. If there's no such question then there should be!

A lot of the transport data centres around commuting, whereas figures were released today showing that commuting only makes up a quarter of all travel. Perhaps the census could broaden their focus on travel rather than just commuting.

MrDerp · 30-03-2015 10:23am

Aard wrote: »

Iirc there's a question on whether a person is a mobile worker. If there's no such question then there should be!

A lot of the transport data centres around commuting, whereas figures were released today showing that commuting only makes up a quarter of all travel. Perhaps the census could broaden their focus on travel rather than just commuting.

Agreed.

I telecommute 3 days a week from a home office in Cork, and once a week I drive to Dublin, where I spend one night in a hotel and 2 days in the office. If I simply answer the home and place of work question, and the CSO computes my commute, I'd be driving to Dublin 5 times a week according to the census.

Sam Russell · 30-03-2015 10:28am

MrDerp wrote: »

Agreed.

I telecommute 3 days a week from a home office in Cork, and once a week I drive to Dublin, where I spend one night in a hotel and 2 days in the office. If I simply answer the home and place of work question, and the CSO computes my commute, I'd be driving to Dublin 5 times a week according to the census.

Yes, but, on average, it would only matter if there was a significant group of people who work as you do. There are people who live close to work but regularly travel a long distance away from work to perform duties. They would have the opposite effect on the figures.

a65b2cd · 30-03-2015 9:24pm

I expect they will use Eircodes to capture place of residence, work, and education provided the launch happens in June 2015 as planned. The X/Y coordinates linked to each Eircode will greatly facilitate analyses of travel patterns.

Victor · 30-03-2015 10:32pm

MrDerp wrote: »

Agreed.

I telecommute 3 days a week from a home office in Cork, and once a week I drive to Dublin, where I spend one night in a hotel and 2 days in the office. If I simply answer the home and place of work question, and the CSO computes my commute, I'd be driving to Dublin 5 times a week according to the census.

The CSO is aware of this type of issue. It seems that a material number of people commute from Tralee to Dublin, but the CSO know this isn't going to be a daily thing.

Carawaystick · 31-03-2015 9:26am

a65b2cd wrote: »

I expect they will use Eircodes to capture place of residence, work, and education provided the launch happens in June 2015 as planned. The X/Y coordinates linked to each Eircode will greatly facilitate analyses of travel patterns.

They already use small areas, which are fine, can't see the cost benefit of breaking compatability with existing data or having to pay to use eircodes.

Aard · 31-03-2015 11:30am

He meant for calculating the distance between two points. Not using the postcodes for aggregating data.

Carawaystick · 31-03-2015 12:30pm

what? the census is going to ask the address of where you work?
How many people are going to know the eircode of their work?

yellowlabrador · 31-03-2015 12:36pm

when have you last had a conversation in Irish?
atheist and agnostic as clear choices.

Aard · 31-03-2015 3:17pm

Carawaystick wrote: »

what? the census is going to ask the address of where you work?

The Census already asks work/school address

a65b2cd · 31-03-2015 8:30pm

Carawaystick wrote: »

what? the census is going to ask the address of where you work?
How many people are going to know the eircode of their work?

The Eircode of where you work can directly be used to small area code your place of work and/or education. Should be a real saving resulting from the introduction of Eircodes.

Mahogany · 02-04-2015 8:30pm

Is it even planned for 2016?

Could've sworn it's been delayed until 17 at least. It's not every five years, it's 2 per decade.

endacl · 02-04-2015 8:32pm

Height and weight.

Aard · 03-04-2015 12:14am

Mahogany wrote: »

Is it even planned for 2016?

Could've sworn it's been delayed until 17 at least. It's not every five years, it's 2 per decade.

It's every 5 years. The 2001 census was rescheduled due to the foot and mouth outbreak.

L1011 · 03-04-2015 5:10pm

Mahogany wrote: »

Is it even planned for 2016?

Could've sworn it's been delayed until 17 at least. It's not every five years, it's 2 per decade.

Only delayed census in recent years was 2001 in to 2002. Next years is as planned

Sam Russell · 03-04-2015 7:14pm

The 1916 census was delayed until 1926!

endacl · 04-04-2015 7:52pm

Sam Russell wrote: »

The 1916 census was delayed until 1926!

Why? Did something happen in 1916?

:pac:

uck51js9zml2yt · 04-04-2015 7:58pm

endacl wrote: »

Why? Did something happen in 1916?

:pac:

Nothing of importance.. It not like it was a foot and mouth outbreak .

Did the last one. Was hard work but made easier by a nice summer.

Sam Russell · 04-04-2015 9:14pm

endacl wrote: »

Why? Did something happen in 1916?

:pac:

More importantly, did something happen in 1921?

It would be great if they could release the 1926 census in time for 1916. It would be of great interest to anyone who would like to trace their heritage.

number10a · 15-04-2015 5:51pm

Mahogany wrote: »

Is it even planned for 2016?

Could've sworn it's been delayed until 17 at least. It's not every five years, it's 2 per decade.

It's scheduled for the 24 April 2016, the 100th anniversary of the Rising. Not sure if that is a coincidence or not. But that's when it's been pencilled in.

http://www.thejournal.ie/when-is-the-next-census-1441703-Apr2014/

As regards the religion question, I believe it should be phrased like so:

35. Do you have a religion? [ ] Yes [ ] No
If no, proceed to question 36.

If yes, what is your religion?
[ ] Roman Catholic
[ ] Church of Ireland
[ ] Islam
[ ] Judaism
etc., etc.

feargale · 15-04-2015 8:39pm

Sam Russell wrote: »

The 1916 census was delayed until 1926!

Censuses were held every ten years from 1821 to 1911. The 1921 census was not held in Ireland because of political turmoil. Instead a census was taken in 1926, and again in 1936 and 1946. From 1951 inclusive the census was taken every five years, except for the postponement of the 2001 census due to foot and mouth.

Victor · 15-04-2015 10:53pm

number10a wrote: »

It's scheduled for the 24 April 2016, the 100th anniversary of the Rising. Not sure if that is a coincidence or not.

It's always the last Sunday of April.

PLL · 15-04-2015 10:59pm

Some kind of question about failing exams in college / dropping out / re-sitting a year. To find out how much money is wasted on 17/18 year olds who don't take a degree seriously because it's free (not always, I know) and they don't have to pay 9K a year like in the UK.

Victor · 15-04-2015 11:10pm

PLL wrote: »

Some kind of question about failing exams in college / dropping out / re-sitting a year. To find out how much money is wasted on 17/18 year olds who don't take a degree seriously because it's free (not always, I know) and they don't have to pay 9K a year like in the UK.

You would get much more accurate numbers from colleges.

Mahogany · 18-04-2015 12:26am

PLL wrote: »

Some kind of question about failing exams in college / dropping out / re-sitting a year. To find out how much money is wasted on 17/18 year olds who don't take a degree seriously because it's free (not always, I know) and they don't have to pay 9K a year like in the UK.

Why does this bother you?

hfallada · 22-04-2015 12:36am

Maybe ask people when did they move to Cities, if they are from outside them to monitor rural to Urban migration trends. In the household questions ask people they have a TV, to monitor the fact TV ownership is dropping.

Mr Sea Wolf · 21-02-2016 1:35am

No new questions this year

marmurr1916 · 25-02-2016 8:48pm

PLL wrote: »

Some kind of question about failing exams in college / dropping out / re-sitting a year. To find out how much money is wasted on 17/18 year olds who don't take a degree seriously because it's free (not always, I know) and they don't have to pay 9K a year like in the UK.

Universities in Scotland don't have any tuition fees in for Scotland-domiciled students and EU students.

Fees for Northern Ireland-domiciled and EU students at Northern Ireland's universities are £3805 for the 2015/2016 academic year.

You're a poor student of the variable rates of UK university tuition fees.

Cookie_Monster · 26-02-2016 4:31am

Aard wrote: »

AFAIK the Census asks for your place of work. They then calculate the distance themselves and use it in their POWSCAR analysis. Unlike the other census answers, however, this is not released to the public.

but that nots the same as commuting distance.
you may be able to drive directly at 50km, or drive to the local station and get a train and then a luas which is 60km

or maybe business address is actually other side of the country and you work for a sub office

or maybe you cycle an extra 10km everyday just because etc.

ManAboutCouch · 02-03-2016 1:19pm

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

but that nots the same as commuting distance.
you may be able to drive directly at 50km, or drive to the local station and get a train and then a luas which is 60km

or maybe business address is actually other side of the country and you work for a sub office

or maybe you cycle an extra 10km everyday just because etc.

There is a question on the form which asks for the mode of transport used to get to work. If more than one mode is used then you are to fill in the mode which you use for the greatest distance.

They also ask for the address of your place of work, so if you work for a sub office then you put the address for that on the form.

I wear socks · 13-04-2016 12:37pm

Can't believe they have kept the now hugely outdated question of Do you own a PC (Personal Computer) ?

marno21 · 13-04-2016 7:13pm

I wear socks wrote: »

Can't believe they have kept the now hugely outdated question of Do you own a PC (Personal Computer) ?

The question regarding broadband is also very ambigious. There is nothing differentiating 1Gbps FTTH from 3 'mobile broadband'.

joujoujou · 16-04-2016 10:03am

I wear socks wrote: »

Can't believe they have kept the now hugely outdated question of Do you own a PC (Personal Computer) ?

IMO it's not so outdated as it looks like. Many people don't need a PC anymore - checking their emails, browsing interwebs and doing anything else on their mobiles or tablets.

marno21 wrote: »

The question regarding broadband is also very ambigious. There is nothing differentiating 1Gbps FTTH from 3 'mobile broadband'.

3 mobile "broadband" is actually a dial-up, not a real broadband.

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