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Darkest film that could be considered 'comedy'?

  • 30-03-2015 11:38PM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,356 ✭✭✭


    What is the darkest film that could be considered a 'comedy'? Many will say Dr Strangelove, as it deals with nuclear annihilation and the end of the world.

    Some might say Pulp Fiction, as it derives humour from things as absurd and outrageous as a gun accidentally going off and killing someone, and having to deal with the consequences of cleaning up their brain matter.

    For me, the darkest film which could still be called a comedy is Todd Solondz's Happiness. One of its main characters is a psychiatrist named Bill (Dylan Baker) who is, unbeknownst to those around him, sexually attracted to children.

    At one point he desperately attempts (eventually succeeding) to drug his son's adolescent friend so that he can sexually assault him (which he does, off-screen).

    The scene in which he tries to find out what his son's friend would like to eat, while his wife is oblivious, is both funny and extremely dark.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭Iranoutofideas


    American Psycho


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,772 ✭✭✭✭degrassinoel


    Seen that (Happiness) shortly after it's release in the cinema, at least half the audience walked out before the end.

    I watched it til the end with my ex, dark is right. Though i personally didn't find any of it funny, i'd have to agree it's in that category. Bleak humour at best imo


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    The King of Comedy and After Hours are two favourites of dark comedy. Man Bites Dog would be another contender.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,860 ✭✭✭fluke


    That feckin Calvary


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 639 ✭✭✭shazzerman


    Naked. Johnny is hilarious: "what's it like being you?".


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,767 ✭✭✭La_Gordy


    Loved Happiness. Remains one of the most grim films I've ever seen, but the humour was great.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    The Day the Clown Cried?


  • Posts: 7,639 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I think you hit the nail on the head there with 'Happiness' OP. I thought it was a 'good' film, but one I'll probably never watch again.

    From our own shores; 'Adam and Paul' was quite a dark and bleak film but because of some of the dialogue used, especially in conversations between the title characters as they struggle through their day from one mishap to another, I laughed probably a lot more than I should have while watching it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,986 ✭✭✭jacksie66


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,657 ✭✭✭Padraig Mor


    Kind of the reverse: The Butcher Boy. Many people regard it as a comedy but I think of it as a very dark drama, with Francie convincing himself that his desperate life is a 'normal', funny one.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,446 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    'God Bless America' and 'Super' both have some seriously fcuked up stuff in them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭brevity


    Seven Psychopaths maybe?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,093 ✭✭✭conorhal


    Seen that (Happiness) shortly after it's release in the cinema, at least half the audience walked out before the end.

    I watched it til the end with my ex, dark is right. Though i personally didn't find any of it funny, i'd have to agree it's in that category. Bleak humour at best imo

    ooh yeah, that was easilly one of the best films I never wanted to see again.

    Very Bad Things was quite enjoyably dark.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 9,462 ✭✭✭fitz


    conorhal wrote: »
    Very Bad Things was quite enjoyably dark.

    Was going to post this too....that movie is hilariously dark.
    Starship Troopers is another one that cracks me up...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,628 ✭✭✭darkdubh


    The King of Comedy and After Hours are two favourites of dark comedy. Man Bites Dog would be another contender.

    Was going to mention those.The King Of Comedy is a classic dark comedy and its storyline about stalking celebritys and the lengths Robert De Niros character goes to get on tv has a current resonance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,446 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    I'd almost call 'Nightcrawler' a very dark comedy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43 the raven 15


    The fisher king.

    Brilliant movie.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 477 ✭✭The Strawman Argument


    Find it hard to think of a film that balances a dark topic with such seriousness and awareness of where it can naturally inject some really funny moments as Festen. Can imagine some people sitting through it and being baffled anyone would call it a comedy.


    Nightcrawler's a really good recent suggestion, got a kind of similar thing going through it as the King of Comedy in the lead performance imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,075 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    Wristcutters: A Love Story

    Title says it all really. A black comedy about people who've killed themselves and are in a purgatory for people who've committed suicide.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,867 ✭✭✭eternal


    titan18 wrote: »
    Wristcutters: A Love Story

    Title says it all really. A black comedy about people who've killed themselves and are in a purgatory for people who've committed suicide.

    Liked that a lot.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,773 ✭✭✭madma


    adam & paul


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,070 ✭✭✭✭pq0n1ct4ve8zf5


    Heathers is hilarious despite centering on an unhealthily attached teenage couple who disguise several murders as suicides and avoid being caught because parents, teachers and peers are so enthralled by the whole teen suicide thing. Far from a perfect film, but anything that can make a bereaved father weeping 'I love my dead gay son!' funny deserves some credit. The dialogue has dated ('How very!') but the satire's pretty fresh.

    It probably actually seems darker now than it did at the time, in fairness. Mean Girls was pretty much as close to a remake as anyone's dared :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Society by Brian Yuzna is worth a mention - 80s teen angst which by the end has become the stuff of a particularly strong cheese nightmare. I only have fairly vague memories of this one now but the effects in the climax by the twisted genius Screaming Mad George are quite something. Its a film you experience rather than enjoy I think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,800 ✭✭✭Lingua Franca


    Turtyturd wrote: »
    The Day the Clown Cried?

    I read the script to that film a few weeks ago. It was not one bit light hearted or humorous. Jerry Lewis would have had to seriously up his clowning game to distract from the relentless misery.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭FloatingVoter


    Heathers is hilarious despite centering on an unhealthily attached teenage couple who disguise several murders as suicides and avoid being caught because parents, teachers and peers are so enthralled by the whole teen suicide thing. Far from a perfect film, but anything that can make a bereaved father weeping 'I love my dead gay son!' funny deserves some credit. The dialogue has dated ('How very!') but the satire's pretty fresh.

    It probably actually seems darker now than it did at the time, in fairness. Mean Girls was pretty much as close to a remake as anyone's dared :pac:

    .....and Winona when we all had a crush on her. To the teenage me, you either rated Winona as a ride (pun fully intended) or you were a kind of male Heather.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 477 ✭✭The Strawman Argument


    I read the script to that film a few weeks ago. It was not one bit light hearted or humorous. Jerry Lewis would have had to seriously up his clowning game to distract from the relentless misery.
    Lewis was supposed to have deviated HUGELY from the script during production, decided to give it a strong autobiographical slant. I believe the writer wanted their name completely removed from it but couldn't as the screenwriters guild place such importance on original writers Lewis hadn't actually done enough for that. I believe the writers family have been cited as a bigger barrier to its release than Lewis himself.



    I was quite surprised how closely Life is Beautiful managed to be like what I've always imagined the Day the Clown Cried must be like, except somehow worse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,117 ✭✭✭Technocentral


    "Happiness"


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,628 ✭✭✭darkdubh


    "Happiness"


    Been mentioned with slightly more detail.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 362 ✭✭Buttros


    Buffalo Soldiers

    Laugh out loud funny and very dark


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭Foggy Jew


    Little Miss Sunshine. Sublime.

    It's the bally ballyness of it that makes it all seem so bally bally.



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