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Easter Lily.

  • 29-03-2015 12:17PM
    #1
    Un Croissant
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,052 ✭✭✭


    Annual thread about how awful/great/patriotic wearing the Easter Lily is.

    Sure isn't it the same/worse/better that wearing the Poppy.


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  • #2
    kneemos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,605 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Never in my life seen an Easter Lily.
    Poppy wins.


  • #3
    galljga1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,937 ✭✭✭galljga1


    This should get interesting.


  • #4
    harry Bailey esq
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,814 ✭✭✭harry Bailey esq


    I wear one every year,its a lovely small painted metal one.


  • #5
    deise08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,333 ✭✭✭deise08


    **Gets popcorn :) **


  • #6
    harry Bailey esq
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,814 ✭✭✭harry Bailey esq


    kneemos wrote: »
    Never in my life seen an Easter Lily.
    Poppy wins.

    Never?


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  • #7
    kneemos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,605 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    deise08 wrote: »
    **Gets popcorn :) **

    You'll ruin your dinner.


  • #8
    Un Croissant
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,052 ✭✭✭Un Croissant


    harry Bailey esq wrote: »
    I wear one every year,its a lovely small painted metal one.

    Would you wear the Poppy at all, at all?


  • #9
    tomwaterford
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    Everyone should try and wear it....even if you don't want to give money to those selling it.....go on the net and download and print one off :)


  • #10
    ComeraghBlue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 954 ✭✭✭ComeraghBlue


    Its offensive.

    Sorry Republicans/IRA/SinnFein but there isn't a dislike button.




    .


  • #11
    kneemos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,605 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    harry Bailey esq wrote: »
    Never?

    Not that I've noticed.


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  • #12
    Un Croissant
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,052 ✭✭✭Un Croissant


    tomwaterford wrote: »
    Everyone should try and wear it....even if you don't want to give money to those selling it.....go on the net and download and print one off :)

    Why's that?


  • #13
    tomwaterford
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    Un Croissant wrote: »
    Why's that?

    Because it's for a good cause and remembers those who died in the fight for Irish freedom.....even if you dislike those selling them...you'll be able to get them for free by printing them off


  • #14
    joe912
    Closed Accounts Posts: 267 ✭✭joe912


    I think the best solution would be for republicans to state that the poppy be used to honour dead republicans and sell them and use the money raised to support victims of british oppression.
    This would help to stop loyalists in the six counties from wearing and driving around with stupid plastic ones on their cars just to annoy their neighbours.


  • #15
    Smiles35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭Smiles35


    Flowers are for girls. People should be searched that wear them on the 1916 100 anniversary day because I guarantee some will have the poppy on aswell hidden somewhere.


  • #16
    The Backwards Man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    ah, te fight for Irish freedom! And when it's over sure we'll just fight among ourselves for a while, make the needless body count a bit higher.

    No thanks.


  • #17
    kneemos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,605 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    tomwaterford wrote: »
    Because it's for a good cause and remembers those who died in the fight for Irish freedom.....even if you dislike those selling them...you'll be able to get them for free by printing them off

    Maybe it's me though I suspect it's a common thing,but I've never felt gratitude or anything else for those that fought for Irish freedom.
    Perhaps the modern day republicans have sullied their image.


  • #18
    kfallon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,775 ✭✭✭✭kfallon


    The Backwards Man wrote: »
    ah, te fight for Irish freedom! And when it's over sure we'll just fight among ourselves for a while, make the needless body count a bit higher.

    No thanks.

    So you would have rather we stayed under British rule?


  • #19
    harry Bailey esq
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,814 ✭✭✭harry Bailey esq


    Un Croissant wrote: »
    Would you wear the Poppy at all, at all?

    No,I'm an Irishman.I'm well aware that a significant number of my countrymen lost their lives in ww1,but they were fighting for a foreign army against a foreign enemy on foreign soil.Why would I commemorate that?I don't find the poppy offensive,nor do I find it offensive when Irish people wear them.
    What I did find offensive however was the abuse young James mc clean got a couple of years back for refusing to wear one when he was lining out for sunderland against everton,I think the poor lad even got death threats.


  • #20
    tomwaterford
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    kneemos wrote: »
    Maybe it's me though I suspect it's a common thing,but I've never felt gratitude or any that else for those that fought for Irish freedom.
    Perhaps the modern day republicans have sullied their image.

    Perhaps.....but it's a thing of nothing to wear it....though I will say many that I see wearing it....wear it for all the wrong reason and are only racists and drug addicts who wear it to offend others and have no real patriotic beliefs

    It is a disservice to wear it espially to offend others


  • #21
    The Backwards Man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    kfallon wrote: »
    So you would have rather we stayed under British rule?

    I'd rather not commemorate mindless killing and pyrrhic victories.


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  • #22
    Un Croissant
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,052 ✭✭✭Un Croissant


    harry Bailey esq wrote: »
    No,I'm an Irishman.I'm well aware that a significant number of my countrymen lost their lives in ww1,but they were fighting for a foreign army against a foreign enemy on foreign soil.Why would I commemorate that?I don't find the poppy offensive,nor do I find it offensive when Irish people wear them.
    What I did find offensive however was the abuse young James mc clean got a couple of years back for refusing to wear one when he was lining out for sunderland against everton,I think the poor lad even got death threats.

    But it wasn't a foreign army, not at the time. No?


  • #23
    harry Bailey esq
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,814 ✭✭✭harry Bailey esq


    If you want a proper lily get one from the national graves association.They are not political and take care of the plots of those involved in the rising,and the money raised goes towards maintenance of those graves.


  • #24
    kfallon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,775 ✭✭✭✭kfallon


    The Backwards Man wrote: »
    I'd rather not commemorate mindless killing and pyrrhic victories.

    You didn't answer my question! And btw I'm not referring with anything to do with the troubles


  • #25
    harry Bailey esq
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,814 ✭✭✭harry Bailey esq


    Un Croissant wrote: »
    But it wasn't a foreign army, not at the time. No?

    Nice one.... but I'm not taking the bait.


  • #26
    tomwaterford
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    harry Bailey esq wrote: »
    If you want a proper lily get one from the national graves association.They are not political and take care of the plots of those involved in the rising,and the money raised goes towards maintenance of those graves.

    Download/print one.....everyone should try and wear one of they want and no one should have to pay for one....:)


  • #27
    Un Croissant
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,052 ✭✭✭Un Croissant


    harry Bailey esq wrote: »
    Nice one.... but I'm not taking the bait.

    Why not? It's true isn't it? No point in applying modern ideas to 100 years ago. Many went to fight to oppose independence, many went to ensure it and many went for a few quid.

    But they were part of Britain. Or have I my history wrong?


  • #28
    qt3.14
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 262 ✭✭qt3.14


    I wear both. One celebrates the fight for our freedom, the other celebrates an important conflict that the empire we were once an active part in fought.


  • #29
    tomwaterford
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    Un Croissant wrote: »
    Why not? It's true isn't it? No point in apply modern ideas to 100 years ago. Many went to fight to oppose independence, many went to ensure it and many went for a few quid.

    But they were part of Britain. Or have I my history wrong?
    Many went of need for money as Britin couldn't bring in conscription in Ireland so banned emigration and the lack of any real economy base in Ireland meant many had little choice but to sign up/or die of the hunger

    That is your history lesson today...


  • #30
    Notorious97
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,479 ✭✭✭Notorious97


    I personally do not see how it is offensive, it is worn as a symbol of gratitude for a group of Irish men and women who thankfully had the bravery to stand up against oppression and tyranny in easter week 1916 and set in motion a chain of events which would ultimately inspire another group of Irish men and women to push further and eventually achieve Irish independence in 1922.

    I wear it to remember their sacrifices, the same way other nations remember their war dead, but I forgot this is boards.ie which means let's all be anti Irish and ashamed of our past.

    I genuinely wish this country had more people around these days similar to who lived back then, people who actually stand up for their people.


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  • #31
    The Backwards Man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    kfallon wrote: »
    You didn't answer my question! And btw I'm not referring with anything to do with the troubles

    I did answer it. I think the whole period of 1916-23 was the most shameful in modern Irish history, and I don't see anything there for me to commemorate.

    What I think of British rule is irrelevant to what I think of the easter lily.


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