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A Slow Journey to Faster Times

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,610 ✭✭✭yaboya1


    Sunday 22nd March - 180 minutes Easy
    23.56m @ 7:38p/m average (146bpm avg)

    Second rest day of the week yesterday. I could have got runs in on both occasions (Thursday also), but felt I'd only be covering a few miles for the sake of it and the rest would leave me better refreshed for the more important sessions like this morning. I took the TbL approach today, using the RSL to check availability for a running companion. TRR_the_turd obliged me and we agreed to hook up for at least some of my run on a sensational summer's day. It panned out perfectly with the run split into three, some lone miles either side of the middle eleven which passed pretty quickly in company as always. The majority of the run was fairly comfortable. We chatted away for most of it, but I must admit I was really gasping for some water in the last couple of miles. I suppose that's normal in the circumstances. Usually I'd expect to keep the HR between 135-140bpm on these runs, but considering:

    a) It was pretty warm
    b) I wore black
    c) I wore a base layer
    d) I took on no fluids
    e) I was talking for a lot of the run (and running with a 2:35 marathon runner)
    f) The route was undulating

    I'm happy enough with the session and 146bpm is hardly gut-busting. Delighted to get 70.7 miles done for the week too with the two rest days.


    Splits:

    Mile 1 - 7:25
    Mile 2 - 7:42
    Mile 3 - 8:14
    Mile 4 - 8:15
    Mile 5 - 8:08
    Mile 6 - 7:53
    Mile 7 - 7:37
    Mile 8 - 7:50
    Mile 9 - 7:44
    Mile 10 - 7:36
    Mile 11 - 7:29
    Mile 12 - 7:31
    Mile 13 - 7:31
    Mile 14 - 7:33
    Mile 15 - 7:26
    Mile 16 - 7:36
    Mile 17 - 7:31
    Mile 18 - 7:32
    Mile 19 - 7:14
    Mile 20 - 7:19
    Mile 21 - 7:25
    Mile 22 - 7:22
    Mile 23 - 7:42
    0.56 - 4:27


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,672 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    Aren't you getting awful fancy running with the Boards elite, did he ask you into the bath afterwards :)


    Excellent run to have banked


    TbL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,610 ✭✭✭yaboya1


    Monday 23rd March - 65 minutes Easy
    8.04m @ 8:05p/m average (122bpm avg)

    I was anxious to get a run of some description in today, just to shake the legs out after yesterday if nothing else. I decided to test out a run up by the Bohernabreena reservoirs, which is basically on my doorstep. Both ecoli & TRR have recommended this route to me recently. I took it very easy, ignoring the pace and HR knowing that it would never be too high with the effort I was putting in. It made a refreshing change to run an unfamiliar course with nothing to guide me but a yellow man on a stake with an arrow every so often. When I reached the turnaround point I ran a little further towards the mountain's peak just to make up the little bit that would round up the eighth mile at the end. It's pretty strange up there. Country roads only big enough for one car (I had to stand in a hedge to let one pass) and little houses with postboxes outside and fields in between. It reminded me of a scene from Postman Pat. This is only four miles from Tallaght which is almost a city in itself! A very scenic, enjoyable afternoon's work. I may be back :)


    Splits:

    Mile 1 - 7:37
    Mile 2 - 8:31
    Mile 3 - 8:21
    Mile 4 - 8:16
    Mile 5 - 8:23
    Mile 6 - 8:05
    Mile 7 - 7:41
    Mile 8 - 7:47
    0.04 - 0:19


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,610 ✭✭✭yaboya1


    Tuesday 24th March - 75 minutes Steady
    11.61m @ 6:28p/m average (155bpm avg)

    I brought the gear to work with me today, ensuring I didn't give myself any excuse to miss this session. I still tryed to talk myself out of it though, the demons in my head trying to convince me that the after effects of running so long on Sunday coupled with eight hilly miles yesterday would catch up with me and a rest day would be far more sensible. If I'm honest I wasn't looking forward to it anyway, a long day in work having been up since 6am this morning not making it seem any more appealing. Every time I got up from my desk this afternoon the residual soreness in my leg muscles was evident, with my brain exaggerating it further attempting to sway me from tonight's workout. Anyway being stubborn like I am, I headed out at 6pm and jogged down to Sandymount for my warm up mile. Calves were a bit tight and I still wasn't feeling the love. Stopped to stretch for a couple of minutes before deciding another warm up mile would be a good idea rather than jumping straight into the Steady stuff (procrastinating :)).
    Eventually it was time to up the pace. I'm always bemoaning the fact that the wind affects my HR, in turn affecting the pace so decided that short laps would be helped/hindered equally so I should do that instead. I got going around the outskirts of Sean Moore Park. The heart rate was at the right bpm, but the pace appeared quicker than I was expecting. I thought this was probably down to the Garmin mismeasuring and I was already getting bored with the laps so decided to go back to a more traditional style run. I saw KU enter the park just as I was coming up towards the end of my final lap. Gave him a quick wave before I continued on, making a stupid decision to run straight onto the beach then spending about half a mile trudging through the soft wet sand before eventually getting back onto solid ground. Ran to the end of the promenade and did a U-turn back down towards Ringsend. Those first five miles felt really difficult despite the fact that the HRM seemed to be telling me otherwise. Then it was like some sort of second wind kicked in. For the next 6.61 miles I felt like I was in cruise control. The HR barely moved, flickering between 154/155 for the next 40-45 minutes or so. Headwind or tailwind, the pace/HR barely changed and I felt extremely comfortable. I can confidently say I could have gone around again and feel I could have sped up if I wanted to. I'm a bit baffled if I'm honest as I definitely didn't feel like that in the early miles. Doesn't make much sense to me? :confused:
    Happy with the run, even if the first two miles around the park are inaccurate (which they might not be).


    Splits:

    W/u miles - 7:22, 7:27 (120bpm)

    Mile 1 - 6:10
    Mile 2 - 6:17
    Mile 3 - 6:28
    Mile 4 - 6:25
    Mile 5 - 6:34
    Mile 6 - 6:30
    Mile 7 - 6:41
    Mile 8 - 6:27
    Mile 9 - 6:41
    Mile 10 - 6:31
    Mile 11 - 6:31
    0.61 - 4:02

    C/d mile - 8:09 (137bpm)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    Class session there. Do you think 155 will be in and around your marathon effort?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,610 ✭✭✭yaboya1


    menoscemo wrote: »
    Class session there. Do you think 155 will be in and around your marathon effort?

    Apparently I should be able to run at 165bpm if I'm fully trained :eek:
    There is no way I'll have mastered that in the next five weeks though. Probably won't even get to 160. I'll take 155 if you offer it to me now though.

    6:28 x 26.22 = Sub 2:50 right? :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    yaboya1 wrote: »
    Apparently I should be able to run at 165bpm if I'm fully trained :eek:
    There is no way I'll have mastered that in the next five weeks though. Probably won't even get to 160. I'll take 155 if you offer it to me now though.

    6:28 x 26.22 = Sub 2:50 right? :D

    Yeah that's why I say looking good. I am sure you can hold that for at least 20 miles with a taper and then you can surely even cope with a bit of drift at the end...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭KielyUnusual


    Nice one Peter but stay off our turf. There'll be trouble next time :D


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,368 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    What marathon are you doing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 928 ✭✭✭TRR_the_turd


    Aren't you getting awful fancy running with the Boards elite, did he ask you into the bath afterwards :)


    Excellent run to have banked


    TbL

    No invitation to the bath. I forgot to turn the immersion on as I was heading out so had no hot water ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,610 ✭✭✭yaboya1


    What marathon are you doing?

    Hamburg.
    Same day as London.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,447 ✭✭✭FBOT01


    Nice one Peter but stay off our turf. There'll be trouble next time :D

    Hey P, you might want to rethink your earlier statement about considering joining the "Cru". They don't appear to be welcoming you with open arms :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭KielyUnusual


    FBOT01 wrote: »
    Hey P, you might want to rethink your earlier statement about considering joining the "Cru". They don't appear to be welcoming you with open arms :)

    Well if he's one of us then there are no issues. :)

    I seem to remember a lot of talk about TAC and BP though. He's getting in with a bad lot there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,196 ✭✭✭PaulieC


    Nice one Peter but stay off our turf. There'll be trouble next time :D

    Your turf ? You are but guests there at the pleasure of the residents of the area. And don't forget it 😄


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,610 ✭✭✭yaboya1


    Thursday 26th March - 70 minutes Easy
    9m @ 7:55p/m average (132bpm avg)

    I meant to run home from work yesterday but a few things got changed around meaning I had to drive, and after spending more than an hour in traffic getting home I just wasn't in the mood of heading back out into the horrible night outside. I really should have run in this morning, but felt 2 x 9 miles in one day might be a bit much (that's changed!), so I used public transport instead. Left home at 6:50am and only arrived at the office for 8:25. So frustrating, especially considering the beautiful morning outside which would have made for a very pleasant run. I did run home, taking it nice & easy completing the same journey back up the hill on foot in seventy minutes. I think I may be doing it twice daily a lot in the future. I hate commuting :mad:


    Splits:

    Mile 1 - 7:52
    Mile 2 - 7:59
    Mile 3 - 7:56
    Mile 4 - 7:48
    Mile 5 - 7:58
    Mile 6 - 7:59
    Mile 7 - 7:54
    Mile 8 - 7:49
    Mile 9 - 8:00


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭laura_ac3


    Get a bike and alternate the commute between cycling and running?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,610 ✭✭✭yaboya1


    laura_ac3 wrote: »
    Get a bike and alternate the commute between cycling and running?

    Are you trying to get me over to the dark side?
    Next you'll be telling me to buy some lycra for the cycle, park the bike at the Point and swim the remainder across the Liffey :pac::pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,610 ✭✭✭yaboya1


    Friday 27th March - 40 minutes Easy
    5.24m @ 7:38p/m average (with 8x100m Strides) - 137bpm avg*

    Really knackered today. Would have needed to be on the road pre-6am for a run before work and was just too tired to get up that early. Got some easy miles in this evening though, adding some strides towards the end. Due to a shift change, I've got tomorrow off so I'm going to hit a parkrun. I intended doing much more of these in 2015, but new working hours have made this impossible. Life has gotten in the way of this Sunday's long run, meaning I'll probably need to push it back to Monday.


    Splits:

    Mile 1 - 8:03
    Mile 2 - 7:52
    Mile 3 - 7:56
    Mile 4 - 7:08
    **Mile 5 - 6:06
    0.24 - 1:58

    *HR a little bit misleading as it includes mile with strides where I hit 169bpm

    **Strides in Mile 5


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,610 ✭✭✭yaboya1


    Very frustrating morning at the Ardgillan parkrun in more ways than one :(.

    Will post report later.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,121 ✭✭✭tang1


    Hope its nothing serious P.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,610 ✭✭✭yaboya1


    tang1 wrote: »
    Hope its nothing serious P.

    No, nothing serious at all.
    Similar experience to Krusty on his first go out there. Was on for a good time in difficult conditions too. First ever DNF, but I thought it was the right thing to do as I had basically taken a short cut by accident.

    On to Hamburg....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 412 ✭✭MKDTH


    Could of been worse, I thought you were injured when I read that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,610 ✭✭✭yaboya1


    Saturday 28th March - 2.58m @ 5:49 average (14:59) DNF

    After a change in working hours and a rare Saturday off, I decided on racing a parkrun to see how close I could get to my current pb. After my car got written off on my way to Skerries two weeks ago, myself and the g/f had sat in a café out there sipping coffee & perusing their nice looking menu. We agreed it would be nice to fit in the nearby Ardgillan parkrun some day, before rewarding ourselves with something nice off the tasty looking menu afterwards. As it happened, today was that day.


    Pre-Race

    I felt great going into this. I've kept my mileage pretty high in recent weeks (bar Cheltenham week) and was pretty fresh having only covered a few easy miles with strides on Friday evening. I knew from previous reports this was a tough course and a pb was unlikely, but I thought I might give it a go in the right circumstances. When we arrived around 9am, the gale that was blowing made that seem a whole lot less likely. My plan was to chase the leader and try my best to take it up myself at some stage. I'd no idea who/what standard of runner would show up, but felt I'd be in the shake up for first finisher. I didn't want to lead from the start as I wasn't sure of the course and knowing Krusty had taken a wrong turn here a few months ago, I was conscious of the same thing happening to me. I guessed there was a fair chance I'd end up on my own during the race, so studied the course carefully on the website beforehand. At the start line I felt as ready as I'd ever be.


    The Race

    I lined up at the front and when we got the go ahead was immediately in second place chasing the early pacesetter. I knew after 200 yards I was going to be in the first two. It was only a matter of which of those positions I would fill. The leader and myself were pulling further & further clear from the minute we jumped off. I never looked behind, but could hear nothing as we careered down the hill in the first mile. I detected from watching the guy in front that he knew the course off by heart. He moved from side to side on the paths, always running on the least rocky sections and taking the best racing line. I thought as long as I kept him in sight, my worries of taking a wrong turn somewhere would be unfounded. As we moved down towards the lowest point of the course I heard the watch beep for the first mile. 5:13! I was flying, but still a good twenty yards behind the frontrunner. As we turned back on ourselves at the bottom of the hill, I could see that I was much further ahead of the third placed runner than the leader was ahead of me. The only question now was whether I could catch him, because nobody behind was going to catch me. We moved up and down through the trees, twisting and turning until we got to the far end of the vast estate. Back up towards the point where we had joined the big loop and the second mile beeped at 6:01. I knew the last mile was the toughest with a punishing incline to finish, but felt I'd be able to pull something out of the bag with the line in sight. As we turned at the bottom for the final time, the leader had taken another 5-10 yards out of me. There was nobody behind me. I must have been at least 500/600m clear of the guy in third now, but him and the chasing pack were nowhere to be seen. As we moved back into the trees twisting and turning I could no longer see my nemesis in front. I was now in exactly the position I had dreaded from the start. Unsure where to make the final turn before we covered the last half mile back up the hill. I remembered from the website that the second lap was slightly shorter than the first and guessed there would be some sort of sign/arrow. As I came to a fork in the road, knowing I had gone right the first time, I guessed it should be left this time. There was no sign/arrow though, so I continued right. Then I looked at my watch. 2.44m. Surely if I completed another full lap along with the climb back it would be further than 5k? If only I'd kept tabs on the leader I'd know for sure. I stopped and asked a girl who was on her first lap. She didn't know. I did a U-turn and took the turn, assuming it would put me back on the right track. Just as I was about to emerge onto the path again I saw the leader flash by from right to left meaning I had taken the wrong course. I wanted to continue to the finish anyway, but didn't think that would be fair in the circumstances as I had basically taken a short cut (unintentional as it was). I stopped to a walk, disgusted with how everything had gone. I was as certain as I could be that I'd have broken 18 minutes on a tough course in very windy conditions. It was a few seconds before I got around to stopping the watch, so it was showing 6:29min/mile pace when I did, but I had been moving around 6:10 pace in that mile (having completely stopped and turned around). Assuming I'd held that pace to the finish, I'd have broken 18 minutes. The winner finished in 17:56, but he looked behind before he started the climb to the finish and saw me walking, so I'm pretty confident he eased off a bit.


    Post-Race

    I trudged home slowly back up the hill, my feet getting wet in the grass. Not my morning! The g/f also failed to finish, pulling up with a recurring hip injury. Probably not the course to return from injury on. In the nicest way possible, I let the volunteer at the finish know I had taken a wrong turn informing him that the website course map was incorrect. He said he was aware of that, but that they had no control over the website. I wasn't having a go at anyone but just felt it would be better if the organisers knew about something like this, especially considering I know it's happened to at least one person before me. He told me they had been a bit confused considering I was so close to the leader going into the final lap, only not to be sighted after that but that confusion had also been cleared up now. Hopefully similar situations in the future can be averted.


    Thoughts

    I could spend all day thinking about the little things that went wrong, but I'm not going to. The Tupac quote on TRR's log from after Bohermeen probably describes it best. Fact is I would have run 17:5x/18:0x on a tough course/windy morning. I didn't because of some minor confusion.
    That's it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,119 ✭✭✭Mrs Mc


    That's rough P hope you at least had something nice in the cafe to cheer yourself up !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭annapr


    ...don't blame you for being frustrated with that experience...

    wait... 'myself and the g/f'... slipped that one in very subtly... ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,447 ✭✭✭FBOT01


    annapr wrote: »
    ...don't blame you for being frustrated with that experience...

    wait... 'myself and the g/f'... slipped that one in very subtly... ;)

    Jaysus Anna. You will never learn....I am going to give you a pass on this occasion but I can only imagine what TbL is going to come back with to that post :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭annapr


    FBOT01 wrote: »
    Jaysus Anna. You will never learn....I am going to give you a pass on this occasion but I can only imagine what TbL is going to come back with to that post :D

    what... what did i say now? :confused::confused::confused:


    ... you just have a dirty mind!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,783 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Hard luck P. Maybe the leader took down the arrow and threw it into a bush. :) you'll get him next time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,447 ✭✭✭FBOT01


    Hey P. That is a tough way to finish. I haven't run it so don't know the course but if the course is wrongly described on the website it should and can be corrected. The original course in St Anne's was to run clockwise and that how it was described on the website. When the anti-clockwise version was preferred in practice the website description was updated accordingly. It is not rocket science and I would be very surprised if parkrun wouldn't prefer it to be accurate. Maybe drop them an email just to flag it formally.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,410 ✭✭✭ger664


    P it sucks what happened but parkrun's are voluntary and rely on people turning up, standing at junctions and putting out arrows. So maybe next week go out and help them fix the issue they had with the course today.


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