Today I ordered

Snake Oil - 80ml COMBO Collection - 18mg
Ectoplasmic V2 - 18mg
Vanilla Custard Supreme - 18mg

Looking forward to something different from my usual vape. Have heard great things about these 3.

Jenny Thalia wrote: »

Shilling is when you PRETEND to be a happy customer, purely because you're connected some way to the business, or are being offered some reward for your fake review

So I frequent a particular vape store.
I'm a good customer and get regular discounts.
Not an obligation, not a commercial connection, just a good customer getting regular discounts.
So I come on here, and whenever someone asks a where to buy question, I naturally steer them toward my fave store. The store benefits from more custom.

Shilling.

So I'm connected to a vape store, in fact I have a percentage because I invested in it when my mate was looking for capital to start it up. I don't work there, but get regular kick backs. Its a sweet arrangement. So I come on here, and whenever someone asks a where to buy question, I naturally steer them toward my fave store. The store benefits from more custom.

Shilling.

So I work for anyvapeIreland.con. I create an account here under a different username and helpfully recommend my store to anyone looking for whatever. 'Its a great store, great service' I say. The store benefits from more custom.

Shilling.

Now all the above are hypothetical, and I assure you I'm neither case, but to me all are shilling, though one can be called word of mouth and is perfectly acceptable, and the others are various degrees more nefarious. But all IMO are a sort of shilling.

Personally, the sly nefarious form of shilling is not acceptable, on moral grounds and the word of mouth type, well you should read everything with a pinch of salt.
Go to the stores, talk to the people, make up your own mind. Its the only way and IMO, makes us a stronger community.

Didihno wrote: »

So I frequent a particular vape store.
I'm a good customer and get regular discounts.
Not an obligation, not a commercial connection, just a good customer getting regular discounts.
So I come on here, and whenever someone asks a where to buy question, I naturally steer them toward my fave store. The store benefits from more custom.

Shilling.

So I'm connected to a vape store, in fact I have a percentage because I invested in it when my mate was looking for capital to start it up. I don't work there, but get regular kick backs. Its a sweet arrangement. So I come on here, and whenever someone asks a where to buy question, I naturally steer them toward my fave store. The store benefits from more custom.

Shilling.

So I work for anyvapeIreland.con. I create an account here under a different username and helpfully recommend my store to anyone looking for whatever. 'Its a great store, great service' I say. The store benefits from more custom.

Shilling.

Now all the above are hypothetical, and I assure you I'm neither case, but to me all are shilling, though one can be called word of mouth and is perfectly acceptable, and the others are various degrees more nefarious. But all IMO are a sort of shilling.

Personally, the sly nefarious form of shilling is not acceptable, on moral grounds and the word of mouth type, well you should read everything with a pinch of salt.
Go to the stores, talk to the people, make up your own mind. Its the only way and IMO, makes us a stronger community.

I wouldn't call recommending a decent shop/site you use a lot 'shilling' in any way. There'd be no recommendations on here in that case! It's only if you actually get something out of it, like that shop asks you to keep promoting them and they throw you free juices or whatever ...

I only use one B&M store, because it is the only decent one within 10 mile radius of me. I'll recommend it every time over the other, IMO lesser stores that stock nowt but chinese juices, because I truly believe the one I'll point people to is a better experience in every way. I get nothing for it, it's just simple "This is the best store I know" type thing. That is not 'shilling'.

I do see people on FB though only ever suggest one site, and I know for fact that some of them have ties to those sites. I never liked that, it gets irritating. Every time you see someone ask a question the same ones veer them to their 'mate's site or one they have some connection to. It's unfair, annoying and bad practice but it'll always go on. This is why, no matter who recommends me anything, I go do my own research on top. As everyone should.

But yeah, suggesting a decent site or shop you've had good experience with isn't shilling.

I looked into the diablo eliquid, they sound good, but they only do 50/50 mix? I prefer higher VG juices. But for the price ...

40 days of 40 for 40% off and I think Irish vaping for 10% off works with it as well so 50% savings.

http://www.diabloeliquid.com/

Thecageyone wrote: »

But yeah, suggesting a decent site or shop you've had good experience with isn't shilling.

Actually, yes it is. I'm a true pedant btw, and this is all semantics I admit.
I fully accept the original issue being someone trying to promote a vendor or product by posing as a customer. True shilling in its nefarious form, even if said product was good, bad or indifferent. That being said:

Shill - noun
1.
a person who poses as a customer in order to decoy others into participating, as at a gambling house, auction, confidence game, etc.
2.
a person who publicizes or praises something or someone for reasons of self-interest, personal profit, or friendship or loyalty.

You see, its all a matter of advertising. You, like me, have a vested interest in your fave vape store doing well. In fact I truly hope all our good vape stores do well, giving me in turn a big selection of what I want, in premises that I feel comfortable in etc etc. Keeps them in business, keeps our options more varied, everyones a wiener, as it were. Makes you feel sorry for the poor word 'Shill', through no fault of its own its become tarred and feathered, even though its basic meaning is 'one who advertises'. And no, I didn't do 'morkeshing' in college!

Jenny Thalia wrote: »

None of the above would be shilling if one were honest about their connection. For example,I work for a vendor. As such, I'd never recommend them.

Very true Jenny, and your integrity stands to you.
I was just being my usual self, i.e. a pedantic git!

Just picked up a TOBH Atty clone and did my first coil build. Dripping truly is the way forward.

moonboy52 wrote: »

Was that from thebestshop bodice ripper? I have one in my basket for a while

Nope. I got it from a Dutch supplier. I am about to move back to the Sodden Atlantic Rock, and so I wanted quick shipping.

I also ordered a bunch of stuff from BargainVapour last week, and I screwed up the order. They were really helpful and sorted it out near instantaneously. Very pleased.

Thecageyone wrote: »

I'm even more pedantic

I toast your pedantry Sir!