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Rangers FC On Field Gossip & Rumour Thread 2017 Mod Note in OP(Updated 14/08)

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  • #5882
    Jelle1880
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    I've heard Hearts fans called it, due to their behaviour. I've not heard other teams being called it. Again, Lorenzo Amoruso is not a protestant, nor Nacho Novo.

    There have been many, many Protestant players and staff members through the gates at Celtic Park, they would not be considered huns.

    Again, it blows your religious theory out the window. You have mentioned the 6 counties twice now. What has that got to do with Scottish football??

    And it is fact that Celtic fans were called huns by the Rangers support, apparently due to the Irish revolutionaries of the times willingness to deal with the Germans (The Hun, as hey were widely known) during the war.

    Your supports behaviour from Barcelona to Manchester and everywhere in between is to blame for your nickname, nothing else.

    That's not what you said though.
    Paully D wrote: »
    Looks like Dick Advocaat is taking over at Sunderland for the remainder of the season at least. Obviously it's going back a long, long time since he was at Rangers, but what do you lads think of him as a manager?

    Both at PSV, Rangers and Zenit he basically had an open cheque book so he obviously could do what he wanted. Not sure how he will do without the big money though, I can't imagine Sunderland being a club willing to spend that big.


  • #5883
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »
    Rangers issue life ban to McKenzie

    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/rangers-issue-life-ban-letter-5322676

    That worked out well for them. He was back again for Saturday's game. Front page of the Record tomorrow.


  • #5884
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    That's not what you said though

    Semantics


  • #5885
    TheBuilder
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭TheBuilder


    TheCitizen wrote: »
    It was you alright.

    Where does that say it's okay to sing about the UVF?


  • #5886
    TheBuilder
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭TheBuilder


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    I've heard Hearts fans called it, due to their behaviour. I've not heard other teams being called it. Again, Lorenzo Amoruso is not a protestant, nor Nacho Novo.

    There have been many, many Protestant players and staff members through the gates at Celtic Park, they would not be considered huns.

    Again, it blows your religious theory out the window. You have mentioned the 6 counties twice now. What has that got to do with Scottish football??

    And it is fact that Celtic fans were called huns by the Rangers support, apparently due to the Irish revolutionaries of the times willingness to deal with the Germans (The Hun, as hey were widely known) during the war.

    Your supports behaviour from Barcelona to Manchester and everywhere in between is to blame for your nickname, nothing else.

    You haven't got the foggiest idea what you're on about, name as many Protestant Celtic employees as you like, it's a fact that your fans use Hun as a derogatory term for Protestants and no matter how many times you try to deny it or switch the subject by telling us things we already acknowledge about a section about our own support, it doesn't change the fact.


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  • #5887
    TheBuilder
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭TheBuilder


    Paully D wrote: »
    Looks like Dick Advocaat is taking over at Sunderland for the remainder of the season at least. Obviously it's going back a long, long time since he was at Rangers, but what do you lads think of him as a manager?

    How dare you talk about football in the Rangers thread, get out and only come back when you want to tell us how our fans are big horrible nasty men that sing bad words!

    Advocaat is a chequebook manager, all depends on whether he'll be given money to spend but given the chance to get the players he wants he should do alright.


  • #5888
    TheCitizen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,710 ✭✭✭TheCitizen


    TheBuilder wrote: »
    Where does that say it's okay to sing about the UVF?

    What are you talking about?


  • #5889
    TheBuilder
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭TheBuilder


    TheCitizen wrote: »
    What are you talking about?
    this kind of conversation with you before and I recall I think your answer was something along the lines of "well it's not my cup of tea etc. but the UVF etc. profess to defend the country they live in whereas Republicans (who live outside of The Republic) attack it or have attacked it in the past etc." That really isn't a good enough response, doesn't cut it at all.

    I fail to see how what you've quoted from BBE backs up your quote above.

    Unless I'm wrong your quote is referring to Remembrance Sunday, nothing to do with the UVF


  • #5890
    TheCitizen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,710 ✭✭✭TheCitizen


    TheBuilder wrote: »
    I fail to see how what you've quoted from BBE backs up your quote above

    Which quote, what quote, what are you on about?

    Why are you taking it upon yourself to speak for someone else?


  • #5891
    TheBuilder
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭TheBuilder


    TheCitizen wrote: »
    Which quote, what quote, what are you on about?

    Why are you taking it upon yourself to speak for someone else?

    What you've said since your post this morning makes absolutely no sense, I suggest you go back and rethink it.

    It's an open forum, I can give an opinion on anything I like if it's all the same to you.


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  • #5892
    TheCitizen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,710 ✭✭✭TheCitizen


    TheBuilder wrote: »
    What you've said since your post this morning makes absolutely no sense, I suggest you go back and rethink it.

    I stand by what I said earlier.
    TheBuilder wrote: »
    It's an open forum, I can give an opinion on anything I like if it's all the same to you.



    You can say what you like. He can answer for himself.


  • #5893
    bobbysands81
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,221 ✭✭✭bobbysands81


    TheBuilder wrote: »
    You joking?

    Hun is used as an offensive term for Protestants, you're deluded if you think otherwise

    If hun is sectarian why did fans of Rangers (in liquidation) use it as a term against Celtic fans?


  • #5894
    TheBuilder
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭TheBuilder


    bobbysands81 wrote: »
    If hun is sectarian why did fans of Rangers (in liquidation) use it as a term against Celtic fans?

    Words change all the time, the playing dumb over what your fans are getting at using the word hun won't wash here.


  • #5895
    bobmalooka
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭bobmalooka


    TheBuilder wrote: »
    Words change all the time, the playing dumb over what your fans are getting at using the word hun won't wash here.

    Hold on now, you're declaring a word used to mock the behaviour of rangers fans is sectarian despite any amount of evidence disproving that idea. Pathetic.


  • #5896
    TheBuilder
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭TheBuilder


    bobmalooka wrote: »
    Hold on now, you're declaring a word used to mock the behaviour of rangers fans is sectarian despite any amount of evidence disproving that idea. Pathetic.

    I'm not declaring anything, Celtic fans use hun as a derogatory term for Protestants, that's the truth.


  • #5897
    Eirebear
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Eirebear


    Interesting to see how many people are claiming the word "Hun" as innocently meaning Rangers fans who would in the same breath claim "Fenian" as having developed in Glasgow parlance as a catch all term for Irish Catholic.


    Nil By Mouth sum it up fairly well.
    "Offensive sectarian language is still used in Scotland on a daily basis, with abusive terms such as “Hun” and “Orange bastard” being used negatively against Protestants (or those perceived to be) and others such as “Fenian” and “Tim” used negatively against Catholics (or those perceived to be). This reinforces religious and racial stereotypes as well as fuelling the divisions and conflict between the denominations and poeple of no religious denomination. Children commonly use words without any knowledge of their meaning, but with an understanding that these words are a means by which to insult others."
    http://nilbymouth.org/resources/history/


  • #5898
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    So...........




    ......yon football palaver? How's that then?


  • #5899
    Savage Tyrant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,165 ✭✭✭Savage Tyrant


    TheBuilder wrote: »
    You haven't got the foggiest idea what you're on about, name as many Protestant Celtic employees as you like, it's a fact that your fans use Hun as a derogatory term for Protestants and no matter how many times you try to deny it or switch the subject by telling us things we already acknowledge about a section about our own support, it doesn't change the fact.

    That's bull****... Utter bull****. I have used that term. Still use it. Will continue to use it.
    The mother of my first three children is Protestant. She was never a "hun" and believe me I've called her plenty since we broke up.
    I have only ever used that term in relation to R*ngers fans and Hearts fans (Diet-Huns, Huns-Lite, Mini Huns etc)
    I grew up in Republican circles and it was never used as a term for Protestants or Loyalists.... It was used amongst the football crowd.
    So paint it how you like.... But it is not a sectarian term. I use it and I unequivocally deny any accusation that I am or have ever been sectarian.


  • #5900
    Broxi_Bear_Eire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    Savage Tyrant wrote: »
    That's bull****... Utter bull****. I have used that term. Still use it. Will continue to use it.
    The mother of my first three children is Protestant. She was never a "hun" and believe me I've called her plenty since we broke up.
    I have only ever used that term in relation to R*ngers fans and Hearts fans (Diet-Huns, Huns-Lite, Mini Huns etc)
    I grew up in Republican circles and it was never used as a term for Protestants or Loyalists.... It was used amongst the football crowd.
    So paint it how you like.... But it is not a sectarian term. I use it and I unequivocally deny any accusation that I am or have ever been sectarian.

    I could say the same about the F word as I am intelligent enough to know what it actually stands for and not what it has been decreed to stand for. So tough luck I have seen it used against many people who were not Rangers or hearts fans and to be honest I am disgusted to see it getting used on here again with impunity. And to be honest I used it earlier in the thread and if I get an infraction so be it. For to long this has been used as a slur against Protestants. As for you not calling your Mother it well done you I have plenty of RC family members who I don't call the F word as I have more respect for them.

    Oh and Nil by Mouth have been long known to champion anti bigotry being founded after a young man was killed for doing nothing but wearing a Celtic top.

    I also have to say you make this big thing about being brought up in republican circles and have not heard that name used for Protestants surely your not saying there is a streak of bigotry running through republicanism


  • #5901
    Madam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,501 ✭✭✭Madam


    Would 'cream buns' be considered sectarian? I too have protestant(along with other faiths and none)relatives and friends I have never called them the 'h' word, in fact I wouldn't really call a Rangers supporter that either as I know it's offensive to them.


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  • #5902
    Broxi_Bear_Eire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    Madam wrote: »
    Would 'cream buns' be considered sectarian? I too have protestant(along with other faiths and none)relatives and friends I have never called them the 'h' word, in fact I wouldn't really call a Rangers supporter that either as I know it's offensive to them.

    Though it is rhyming slang for H** it is not the word and though I personally would not like it whether it would be classed as sectarian I suppose it could come down to if it was proved or not.
    I honestly can't believe people are coming into the thread and saying Oh I know such and such and have never called them a H**

    I have loads of family who are RC and I don't use the F word for them why because I have more respect I also don't need to tell people I don't call them it why do people feel the need to say "I don't call this one or that one a H**"

    That is not a dig at you madam but a simple observation


  • #5903
    TheCitizen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,710 ✭✭✭TheCitizen


    Eirebear wrote: »
    Interesting to see how many people are claiming the word "Hun" as innocently meaning Rangers fans who would in the same breath claim "Fenian" as having developed in Glasgow parlance as a catch all term for Irish Catholic.


    Nil By Mouth sum it up fairly well.
    "Offensive sectarian language is still used in Scotland on a daily basis, with abusive terms such as “Hun” and “Orange bastard” being used negatively against Protestants (or those perceived to be) and others such as “Fenian” and “Tim” used negatively against Catholics (or those perceived to be). This reinforces religious and racial stereotypes as well as fuelling the divisions and conflict between the denominations and poeple of no religious denomination. Children commonly use words without any knowledge of their meaning, but with an understanding that these words are a means by which to insult others."
    http://nilbymouth.org/resources/history/

    Fenian and Tim aren't offensive terms at all. Declan, I don't like


  • #5904
    Broxi_Bear_Eire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    TheCitizen wrote: »
    It was you alright.

    I will get back to you later on this just I am busy and this is going to take a bit of time


  • #5905
    TheCitizen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,710 ✭✭✭TheCitizen


    Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »
    I will get back to you later on this just I am busy and this is going to take a bit of time

    Take your time.


  • #5906
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    TheBuilder wrote: »
    You haven't got the foggiest idea what you're on about, name as many Protestant Celtic employees as you like, it's a fact that your fans use Hun as a derogatory term for Protestants and no matter how many times you try to deny it or switch the subject by telling us things we already acknowledge about a section about our own support, it doesn't change the fact.

    Absolute nonsense. You can bury your head in the sand as to the behaviour of your fans, and the names that become associated with that behaviour all you want, but all right minded people know exactly why you are called what your called.

    Will "Scotland's Shame" be sectarian next week??


  • #5907
    Intifada
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 974 ✭✭✭Intifada


    Nil By Mouth are pretty much the biggest gobshítes going so let's agree not to cite them in future


  • #5908
    GavRedKing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,267 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    One and only warning lads, anyone using the word hun will be carded in future, its covered under the soccer forums policy on abuse.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=73160775&postcount=2
    Calling a team.......the Hun

    Also, because its only being used to bait, troll and wind up Rangers fans, same goes for using SEVCO but that will ne judged on a case by case basis and the context its used in.

    This was discussed at Mod level so any issues with either of the above PM a mod, do not reply here, its not the place for it.


  • #5909
    Broxi_Bear_Eire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    Intifada wrote: »
    Nil By Mouth are pretty much the biggest gobshítes going so let's agree not to cite them in future

    Lets agree you don't tell people what to do ;)


  • #5910
    Intifada
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 974 ✭✭✭Intifada


    Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »
    Lets agree you don't tell people what to do ;)
    Was just a joke son, sorry if your online liberties felt threatened there...


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  • #5911
    Broxi_Bear_Eire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    Intifada wrote: »
    Was just a joke son, sorry if your online liberties felt threatened there...

    Of course it was and I am not your son but there is every chance your young enough to be mine.
    Also to be straight with you it would take a lot more than a rant from you to make me feel threatened.


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