Fidelma Healy Eames at it again. Claims SSM might mean that Mother's Day is banned!

Riverireland wrote: »

I'm no too familiar with fidelma other than seeing her mentioned here. From what I'm reading though she at least appears to be giving her honest opinion openly. Does anyone actually believe that all the politicians in the country who's parties are supporting this referendum are going to vote yes! I personally don't and the older media set will be in the same boat. You can hear it in what they don't say in interviews.

LordNorbury wrote: »

I'm not twisting anything! It is a simple fact that two people of the same gender cannot conceive a child where they both have a genetic relationship with that child, and no amount of "if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle", or anything else changes that simple fundamental reality.

I never said that gay people will be stealing the shelter, water or food from children, but they will be depriving a child of the company, upbringing and support of their biological parents, which is what I believe we should be aspiring to in terms of what is the most suitable model that we have for rearing children, notwithstanding the fact that it can happen from time to time that a child cannot be raised by its biological parents through premature death or some other circumstance, I still genuinely believe that we should aspire first and foremost to the best proven model for procreation and raising a family, which is one that provides for children that are reared by their biological parents.

thelad95 wrote: »

Slightly off topic but I'd just like to say I'd give her one.

Stark wrote: »

My coffee very nearly ended up everywhere.

LordNorbury wrote: »

This is the kind of aggression I've alluded to in my first post on this thread, that is now directed at anyone who disagrees with the "we are all equal" position of the gay lobby in Ireland. Because you adopt a position that is at variance with the gay community and their increasingly aggressive lobby in this country, you get told that your views are "absurdities", etc, just like those of us who called out the property crash before it happened, were ridiculed in the exact same way, then a crash happens and low and behold, you were right all along.

As I've already said, I haven't decided how I'm going to vote, most probably against if I'm being honest, but what I take serious exception to at this stage, is being told that my views are absurd. What is absurd is being told that you have to vote one particular way and any discussion to the contrary is not allowed. I don't think the gay lobby in Ireland actually realise how much they are starting to píss off people like me who are intelligent reasoned people, who are starting to get a bit sick of being shouted down by them and being told to vote a certain way.

This is much bigger than 2 people who want to get married, this is also about the welfare and rights of children. This is the first time I can recall in this country where the most basic and fundamental human rights of young children are getting completely shoved aside, in the furtherance of the rights of some other party.

LordNorbury wrote: »

Nope, I have no issue with adoption for a small minority of children, where it will not be possible that they will be raised by their biological parents. However the vast vast majority of children are raised by their biological parents, and this is what I think we ought to protect and aspire to as an inter generational model of best practice when it comes to how we pro create, and if there are to be any changes, then we should be able to discuss them without those who hold genuine concerns in this area being ridiculed, patronised and hissed and sneared at by what is clearly an increasingly aggressive gay lobby movement in this country, who now believe that any view that is not in communion with their own, is somehow backward, unequal, unjust or homophobic.