Cheltenham Festival 2015

madmoose · 03-03-2015 01:48PM

Don cossack looking like my best ante post bet now at 14/1

Backstreet Moyes · 03-03-2015 03:13PM

BetVictor 6/1 Max €5 for new accounts Mullins to have a winner on Day 1.

Deco99 · 03-03-2015 04:08PM

Nuts102 wrote: »

BetVictor 6/1 Max €5 for new accounts Mullins to have a winner on Day 1.

Wow, Thats taking a risk. Fair fecks to them. I mean he has a lot of favourites. surely one of them will win. They could be in for a hell of a beating on that one...........:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Backstreet Moyes · 03-03-2015 04:11PM

Deco99 wrote: »

Wow, Thats taking a risk. Fair fecks to them. I mean he has a lot of favourites. surely one of them will win. They could be in for a hell of a beating on that one...........:rolleyes::rolleyes:

It should be a free €30 to play around with on Wednesday i don't see the problem. I have an old account so i can't take up the offer anyway.

carq · 03-03-2015 04:18PM

Dont get the stake on any of your free bets , PLUS you need to play with 4 times the value of the free bet to withdraw.

oPATCHo · 03-03-2015 04:43PM

the bookies aint stupid

bohsman · 03-03-2015 04:50PM

ste2010 wrote: »

Not sure how credible below is

@TheBettingSpy: "@GetYourTipsOut: BREAKING: @JonjoONeill has confirmed that Taquin Du Seuil will go for the Ryanair Chase. http://t.co/fDRi0NzF9Q" Excellent

Betfair prices have come back in for TDS in the Ryanair as well.

Backstreet Moyes · 03-03-2015 06:38PM

Betway offering a matched €50 free bet doesn't seem to say anything about having to roll it over a few times.
Betway also money back as a free bet if Sire De Grugy wins.

Vernons seems to be a €25 risk free bet doesn't say anything about having to roll it over.

Spreadex same as Vernons.

I have never heard of these sites which is always off putting. If anybody knows them and can provide some feedback.

the groutch · 03-03-2015 06:46PM

SpreadEx are more focused or spread betting and have only recently gotten into bookmaking, but are around for years.

Vernons have done the football pools in England for donkey years, so would be safe too.

Not so sure about Betway.

ft9 · 03-03-2015 06:47PM

Nuts102 wrote: »

Betway offering a matched €50 free bet doesn't seem to say anything about having to roll it over a few times.
Betway also money back as a free bet if Sire De Grugy wins.

Vernons seems to be a €25 risk free bet doesn't say anything about having to roll it over.

Spreadex same as Vernons.

I have never heard of these sites which is always off putting. If anybody knows them and can provide some feedback.

I use betway. The sites not great but they pay out on winners. That's all that matters really

bohsman · 03-03-2015 06:49PM

Betway are legit, mainly known for online casino.

Gringo180 · 03-03-2015 07:12PM

Can anybody see a change of tactics from Twiston Davies on The New One? Personally I think if he was ridden prominently and kicked for home first he would have a better chance of winning. He flies up that hill and if he was out in front jumping the last he would be hard to peg back.

Shemale · 03-03-2015 08:36PM

Gringo180 wrote: »

Can anybody see a change of tactics from Twiston Davies on The New One? Personally I think if he was ridden prominently and kicked for home first he would have a better chance of winning. He flies up that hill and if he was out in front jumping the last he would be hard to peg back.

Not for me, barring a big slice of luck or Faugheen and Jezki underperforming I cant see him winning. Both Jezki and Faugheen could sit behind him and pick him off when they wanted, he stays plenty well enough but I dont think he is tactically quick enough.

Gringo180 · 03-03-2015 08:42PM

Shemale wrote: »

Not for me, barring a big slice of luck or Faugheen and Jezki underperforming I cant see him winning. Both Jezki and Faugheen could sit behind him and pick him off when they wanted, he stays plenty well enough but I dont think he is tactically quick enough.

No not for me also, but I think it would be his best shot at winning it. I am in the Jezki camp myself he is a different animal around Cheltenham on good ground, although i'm very wary of Faugheen, he could really blow them out of the water.

Gringo180 · 03-03-2015 09:07PM

More I look at it the more I am amazed at Smad Place being a 20/1 shot :eek:

2nd in last years RSA handily beating the likes of Carlingford Lough and Sam Winner and finished ahead of the fancied Djakadam by 7 lengths and gave him 12 lbs in the Hennessy on his first start of the season. Superb pilot on board in Wayne Hutchinson who is on record as saying

"I was delighted with Smad Place in the BetBright Cup as tactically things did not work out in his favour as they went steadily early on and he is all about stamina.

He was quite gassy and keen but that was nice to see as the boss (Alan King) had left him on the fresher side after he'd taken a while to come to hand after the Hennessy at Newbury in November.

He has jumped super and just left his backend in one of the ditches but has run his race. He was getting eight pounds from Many Clouds and Dynaste but I think that he will improve again come March and it can be a different scenario.

We're looking at six weeks now until the Festival and that is a nice break to get him spot on."

Harry Angstrom · 03-03-2015 09:55PM

He was getting eight pounds from Many Clouds last time out, and had a twelve pound turnaround with him from The Hennessy. I was disappointed that he couldn't beat him.

jimjamcos · 03-03-2015 09:56PM

Gringo180 wrote: »

More I look at it the more I am amazed at Smad Place being a 20/1 shot :eek:

2nd in last years RSA handily beating the likes of Carlingford Lough and Sam Winner and finished ahead of the fancied Djakadam by 7 lengths and gave him 12 lbs in the Hennessy on his first start of the season. Superb pilot on board in Wayne Hutchinson who is on record as saying

"I was delighted with Smad Place in the BetBright Cup as tactically things did not work out in his favour as they went steadily early on and he is all about stamina.

He was quite gassy and keen but that was nice to see as the boss (Alan King) had left him on the fresher side after he'd taken a while to come to hand after the Hennessy at Newbury in November.

He has jumped super and just left his backend in one of the ditches but has run his race. He was getting eight pounds from Many Clouds and Dynaste but I think that he will improve again come March and it can be a different scenario.

We're looking at six weeks now until the Festival and that is a nice break to get him spot on."

Not sure about him. Like the horse and while he obviously gets 3m I'm not sure he wants the extra distance of GC and from interview I've seen King is of a similar opinion.

bit of a bogey · 03-03-2015 10:04PM

zpehtsfd wrote: »

If any bookie goes Evens on Tuesday it'll be max bet 10e and time restricted. Can see her going off 4/7 or 1/2 if she turns up on the day now that Aurore D'Estruval is out. GL

Agree. If Annie Power hits 5/4 (not including joke 10 Euro bets on offer for 10mins), Id be seriously worried that something is wrong.

jimjamcos · 03-03-2015 10:16PM

Having backed Cue Card and Ballycasey (scoped badly after Ascot) I agree with previous posters re Hidden Cyclone and TDS being the value now at 16/1 when you consider:

Don Cossack is still relatively unproven on better ground, know he ran well at Aintree last year but was well beaten, and has yet to run left-handed this season which seems by design, something Shark has pointed to in last few days. Could easily see him outpaced on better ground in a Ryanair.

Ma Fillule is solid be short on what she's done.

Balder is classy but has it all to prove at Cheltenham

John Spirit is a handicapper and as Rossom says yet to win on new course

Champagne Fever won't run and while I think Ballycasey is much better than he's shown, couldn't trust him at this stage

Uxiandre is interesting at 25/1 on last seasons form but his last couple of runs have been very disappointing

The likes of Eduard, Wishful Thinking and Wonderful Charm are closely matched on recent form, which probably isn't good enough

16's each for the 1st and 2nd over the two 2m4 races from last years festival seems very fair given the value of festival form in this particular race and I'm strongly considering dutching them in win bets. How likely do people think they are to turn up? I'd be more confident in Hidden Cyclone as Jonjo struggles to resist a handicap good thing ala Holywell last year

Gringo180 · 03-03-2015 10:39PM

jimjamcos wrote: »

Not sure about him. Like the horse and while he obviously gets 3m I'm not sure he wants the extra distance of GC and from interview I've seen King is of a similar opinion.

I could be wrong but he looks all stamina to me. Has no real turn of foot but just plods on, I think the extra distance in the Gold Cup will actually suit him. King is a top trainer and will have him spot on this time around.

mulbot · 04-03-2015 01:20AM

Gringo180 wrote: »

Can anybody see a change of tactics from Twiston Davies on The New One? Personally I think if he was ridden prominently and kicked for home first he would have a better chance of winning. He flies up that hill and if he was out in front jumping the last he would be hard to peg back.

I would hope he goes for him slightly sooner,i don't think The New Ones gonna be caught out this year regarding pace, it'll between him and jezki at the line(according to my docket):)

Dunston · 04-03-2015 01:23AM

Back jezki on betfair at 9/2 now and if he wins you get 3 free bets up to 25€ each

Charlie George · 04-03-2015 08:20AM

Gringo180 wrote: »

Can anybody see a change of tactics from Twiston Davies on The New One? Personally I think if he was ridden prominently and kicked for home first he would have a better chance of winning. He flies up that hill and if he was out in front jumping the last he would be hard to peg back.

Eric mc namara stated in the preview night in listowel that he thinks the new one wont run.

Backstreet Moyes · 04-03-2015 09:22AM

Just looking at The World Hurdle and ito seems a bit odd Ladbrokes are the only site that haven't at fishers cross priced up.

I am taking 40/1 nrnb he wasn't in great form last year and finished third in a stronger renewal. The two horses who beat him won't be their this time around.

The horse could be finished but at 40/1 NRNB if he comes back to form he has a huge chance.

akelly02 · 04-03-2015 11:14AM

Gringo180 wrote: »

No not for me also, but I think it would be his best shot at winning it. I am in the Jezki camp myself he is a different animal around Cheltenham on good ground, although i'm very wary of Faugheen, he could really blow them out of the water.

Gound is currently good to soft, soft in places on all 3 courses, wont be as quick on the first day as last year imo

Charlie George · 04-03-2015 11:35AM

Nuts102 wrote: »

Just looking at The World Hurdle and ito seems a bit odd Ladbrokes are the only site that haven't at fishers cross priced up.

I am taking 40/1 nrnb he wasn't in great form last year and finished third in a stronger renewal. The two horses who beat him won't be their this time around.

The horse could be finished but at 40/1 NRNB if he comes back to form he has a huge chance.

Wont be running.