Manchester City Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2017 Mod warning post # 1403

Take Your Pants Off · 25-02-2015 07:44PM

murphk wrote: »

If i remember correctly when we beat roma Fernando and Fernandinho started together

and looked very convincing

even if you go with 4-4-2 starting milner at centre mid is crazy against barca why not lampard there instead

Because I think I heard something a couple of weeks ago that Milner is looking to play in a cm role, instead of rm.
This was when his whole contract thing was off a buzz and in conferences.

stiffler123 · 25-02-2015 08:22PM

murphk wrote: »

If i remember correctly when we beat roma Fernando and Fernandinho started together

and looked very convincing

even if you go with 4-4-2 starting milner at centre mid is crazy against barca why not lampard there instead

Ya, and Milner and Fernando started against Bayern when we beat them. Do you really think Fernandinho or Lampard would have made the difference? You already said if Yaya played it wouldn't have affected the result.

blueser · 25-02-2015 08:30PM

Watching the first half, it was like a cat toying with a mouse before he kills it. The second half was a big improvement (not difficult!). The worrying thing though is our lack of improvement in our CL campaigns. This is our fourth season in the competition, and is there any significant improvement from when we stepped out against Napoli in September 2011? Yes, we're getting tough draws but we can't keep using that as an excuse. We'll keep on getting them until we make a serious run in the competition (QF onwards). We don't seem cunning enough or tactically aware of how to play against Europe's elite. And I don't see it changing anytime soon.

Joe Exotic · 25-02-2015 09:10PM

stiffler123 wrote: »

Ya, and Milner and Fernando started against Bayern when we beat them. Do you really think Fernandinho or Lampard would have made the difference? You already said if Yaya played it wouldn't have affected the result.

I think 5 across midfield would have made the difference, in that context i'd def have Yaya over Lampard but he wasnt available so its a moot point.

But in the formation that started last night Yaya would not have made the difference he might have made it worse - While he gives us great go forward ball when he can get on it in the correct position Yaya isnt the best at tracking back himself. We would still have been over run in the centre.

stiffler123 · 25-02-2015 10:44PM

murphk wrote: »

I think 5 across midfield would have made the difference, in that context i'd def have Yaya over Lampard but he wasnt available so its a moot point.

But in the formation that started last night Yaya would not have made the difference he might have made it worse - While he gives us great go forward ball when he can get on it in the correct position Yaya isnt the best at tracking back himself. We would still have been over run in the centre.

Fair enough with the formation, but I can't agree with Yaya making things worse. He sits back when instructed to and does a good job. We would have had a lot more possession too if he played. Lampard is slow as a snail and not great at defending, I think we would have have conceded more if he had started in midfield.

rwbug · 25-02-2015 10:50PM

Lampard has been great at having an impact with his timing of runs into box and nicking a goal (mostly as a sub) but his overall play has been poor. Things would have been much worse with him in a 442. He played in a midfield three against Bayerns ten men and couldn't help us dominate possesion. Fernando and Milner are are a poor midfield two combination, but Lampard in a midfield two would have been much worse.

Dr.Winston O'Boogie · 26-02-2015 11:53AM

Lampard starting against Barca, are you mad! He's 36/37 and doesn't have the legs to keep up with those lads. Even the fittest 20 something players struggle.

Can see why Milner was put in there to be honest, but Fernando over Fernandinho was baffling. Fernandinho made a big difference when he came on.

Atmosphere was brutal again, its wierd because I almost feel the same way as the fans in the stadium. A league defeat bothers me for the entire week, a champs league defeat never really bothers me. Maybe I am just used to it at this stage.

rwbug · 28-02-2015 07:08PM

Do a you tube search for Marcos Lopes vs Lyon. Assist and winner versus the leaders today.

Talib Fiasco · 28-02-2015 07:22PM

Rony is going to be a star. Shockingly gifted young lad. The club must hold onto him and not give him away like they did with Denis Suarez

Talib Fiasco · 01-03-2015 02:53PM

Ya gotta feel Pelle's days are numbered like a calender...

SEPT 23 1989 · 01-03-2015 02:59PM

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

Ya gotta feel Pelle's days are numbered like a calender...

the whole thing is completly stale and that comes back to him

blueser · 01-03-2015 03:45PM

Woeful (non) performance. If a side loses having at least given it a good go, then fair enough. But to wave the white flag like we did in that second half is simply not good enough.

stiffler123 · 02-03-2015 08:50AM

No positives to take at all from yesterday, most of the team were poor. Awful in defense, we really struggle when teams press us. Zabaleta and Aguero played well.

Bench Press · 02-03-2015 06:51PM

Pellogrini needs to go, losing to a poor side like Liverpool is not on, thew whole thing is gone stale under him and the European campaigns are a joke

Sheepy99 · 02-03-2015 07:20PM

Who to replace him with though, that would realistically be available?

Talib Fiasco · 02-03-2015 07:21PM

Sheepy99 wrote: »

Who to replace him with though, that would realistically be available?

I'd be confident in getting Klopp

Lukker- · 02-03-2015 07:22PM

Too early to sack him anyways, wait until the 1 year anniversary of when he won the PL than sack him for holistic purposes :pac:

Lukker- · 02-03-2015 07:26PM

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

I'd be confident in getting Klopp

I don't think Klopp fits Begiristain or Sorriano's vision or philosophy for the club. I could see Guardiola there in a couple of seasons when he finishes up with Bayern though.

Talib Fiasco · 02-03-2015 07:30PM

Lukker- wrote: »

I don't think Klopp fits Begiristain or Sorriano's vision or philosophy for the club. I could see Guardiola there in a couple of seasons when he finishes up with Bayern though.

I think City and Dortmund are very similar teams actually.

GavRedKing · 02-03-2015 07:34PM

If ye get Ancelotti or Simeone in the summer I'd be scared of City in the league and Europe.

Ancelotti is the best ye could get and one of the best managers around and Simeone is different to Klopp and I'd say better too.

Lukker- · 02-03-2015 07:41PM

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

I think City and Dortmund are very similar teams actually.

I don't see it personally.

Dortmund at their best are ultra high pressure team, utilizing defensive mistakes to score goals. Very compact in defense and disciplined tactically. I think they have far more in common with Atheltico Madrid and were in fact probably a blue print for them. Much more counter-attacking than City.

I don't really think City have the personnel to play a high pressing game for 90 minutes.

Lukker- · 02-03-2015 07:42PM

GavRedKing wrote: »

If ye get Ancelotti or Simeone in the summer I'd be scared of City in the league and Europe.

Ancelotti is the best ye could get and one of the best managers around and Simeone is different to Klopp and I'd say better too.

Ancelotti would be a great fit I think. He'd probably make them solid again like he made Chelsea in 09/10. He gets the best out of older players too so he'd probably prolong a few careers.

the whole year inn · 02-03-2015 07:50PM

Yea they played bad but sacking managers when the league and champions league not even over I think is ridiculous.Does no one remember when Liverpool played the mighty chelsea and chelsea only managed a draw twice,liverpool are no mugs.
How many points are we behind last years position out of interest 33 points to go far from over,its not over till its over.

Now back to throwing your toys out of the pram!!

GavRedKing · 02-03-2015 07:50PM

Lukker- wrote: »

Ancelotti would be a great fit I think. He'd probably make them solid again like he made Chelsea in 09/10. He gets the best out of older players too so he'd probably prolong a few careers.

City have a problem with older players IMO. The bulk of their squad is the wrong side of 30 or closing on it fast.

GavRedKing · 02-03-2015 07:51PM

the whole year inn wrote: »

Yea they played bad but sacking managers when the league and champions league not even over I think is ridiculous.Does no one remember when Liverpool played the mighty chelsea and chelsea only managed a draw twice,liverpool are no mugs.
How many points are we behind last years position out of interest 33 points to go far from over,its not over till its over.

Now back to throwing your toys out of the parm!!

We've beaten the mighty Pool at Anfield when it mattered in the last two games :pac:

Pool are no mugs and are in spectular form, theres an over reaction to Citys loss but anyone calling Pool poor are far off the mark.

blueser · 02-03-2015 08:10PM

Bench Press wrote: »

Pellogrini needs to go, losing to a poor side like Liverpool is not on, thew whole thing is gone stale under him and the European campaigns are a joke

Behave. Liverpool are not a poor side. Villa, Hull, QPR and the like (no offence intended to fans of those sides, by the way) are "poor sides". We were poor in that second half.

the whole year inn · 02-03-2015 08:17PM

GavRedKing wrote: »

We've beaten the mighty Pool at Anfield when it mattered in the last two games :pac:

Pool are no mugs and are in spectular form, theres an over reaction to Citys loss but anyone calling Pool poor are far off the mark.

Ahh yea thats for sure,now to lock down these next 4 games in the pl!

blueser · 02-03-2015 10:48PM

Well done to the U18s on reaching the FA Youth Cup semi final after beating Crewe Alexandra 6-1 tonight. They now face Leicester City with the winners playing Spurs or Chelsea in the final.

Pierce_1991 · 03-03-2015 11:14AM

Arsenal fan here. I don't know if its the style of play or the fact that you's have been basically Arsenal 2.0 for the last few years(:P) but I'm quite fond of City. Always been of the opinion that if a guy wins a cup and league in his first season he deserves to keep the job for at least a couple of years but I actually think Pellegrini should go at the end of this season. As Gav said above, Simeone would be a great get for City, you can be sure you won't have these games anymore where the players just don't turn up. As far as I'm concerned City should have won the last 4 league titles as well as this one. Instead its looking like 2 from 5 years where yiz have had the league's strongest squad in my opinion. Not good enough.

the whole year inn · 03-03-2015 03:58PM

Pierce_1991 wrote: »

Arsenal fan here. I don't know if its the style of play or the fact that you's have been basically Arsenal 2.0 for the last few years(:P) but I'm quite fond of City. Always been of the opinion that if a guy wins a cup and league in his first season he deserves to keep the job for at least a couple of years but I actually think Pellegrini should go at the end of this season. As Gav said above, Simeone would be a great get for City, you can be sure you won't have these games anymore where the players just don't turn up. As far as I'm concerned City should have won the last 4 league titles as well as this one. Instead its looking like 2 from 5 years where yiz have had the league's strongest squad in my opinion. Not good enough.

I think money will be spent this summer and who ever they get in manager wise might not really matter.
The top brass at city want champions league(and they should) and there's only one manager for it and thats Ancelotti in my eyes and if city can't get him good and well let's stick with Pell!

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