Woman who failed to pay TV licence fine taken to jail in five-hour taxi trip

El_Duderino 09 · 28-02-2015 07:02PM

Shurimgreat wrote: »

There is very little difference quality wise between RTE and TV3. In fact in many cases TV3 are superior.

A lot of the licence fee doesn't go on quality programs. It goes on completely unrealistic salaries for "stars" like Tubridy, Marian Finucane, Joe Duffy and Ray D'arcy.

2FM makes a huge loss every year, and is subsidised by the licence fee. Is there any reason for having a 2FM when clearly fewer and fewer people listen to it and other private stations are far better.

That's your opinion about RTE and TV3. I disagree but fair enough. 2FM is different though. Radio isn't as relevant as it was in the past so it should be considered differently. The market would fill that space like for like. The same couldn't be said for Radio 1 or Lyric or RTE News.

Shurimgreat · 28-02-2015 07:02PM

Wide Load wrote: »

How do you know if anti water protesters pay it? Or have a tv? Lots of assumptions.

None of them have been in court for it such as Paul Murphy and others.

You can be sure they have TVs.

darkpagandeath · 28-02-2015 07:05PM

drdidlittle wrote: »

What ever happened to the bill that was to stop fines at source. Stop dole payment or straight from wages. Save jail expenses and will increase compliance as people will know that the money will have to be paid one way or another.

What and put all them lawyers and judges out of work, The law profession here is a very big problem. Why do you think johnny hard life is walking around with 100 convictions.

darkpagandeath · 28-02-2015 07:06PM

Shurimgreat wrote: »

None of them have been in court for it such as Paul Murphy and others.

You can be sure they have TVs.

Seems a new low now, Not only smart phones but hey have TV's....

Shurimgreat · 28-02-2015 07:07PM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

That's your opinion about RTE and TV3. I disagree but fair enough. 2FM is different though. Radio isn't as relevant as it was in the past so it should be considered differently. The market would fill that space like for like. The same couldn't be said for Radio 1 or Lyric or RTE News.

Newstalk, Today FM as well as countless local stations. They all cover the current affairs issues pretty well. There is no difference between what Pat Kenny does and what Sean O'Rourke does for example.

Secondly, RTE have a habit of avoiding sensitive topics in a way independent stations do not.

RTE news and TV3 news are no different. Vincent Browne is far more analytical than anyone in RTE. RTE is usually very middle of the road. The Frontline was a good program, but they soon silenced that.

Lyric FM? Just give a licence to a private station that plays a large amont of classical music. Its not rocket science. You can control content via licence requirements. If they don't fulfill the requirement withdraw the licence. A station like Lyric probably doesn't have to pay large royalties like other stations due to copywrite expiry.

drdidlittle · 28-02-2015 07:08PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

What and put all them lawyers and judges out of work, The law profession here is a very big problem. Why do you think johnny hard life is walking around with 100 convictions.

True. With 100 convictions they'd be in jail for not havibg enouge wages / dole to pay all the fines.....

who the fug · 28-02-2015 07:13PM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Privatising news means cutting the news and replacing it with entertainment. How about you get your news from MTV Bite Size News and ignore ballot cards when they arrive.

At the very least people can flick past RTE programmes and know they are too ignorant to understand them. Remove that and those morons won't even know they are morons. Institutions like RTE and BBC are the thin line between here and even greater stupidity

Won't comment on RTE, but BBC news is crap

El_Duderino 09 · 28-02-2015 07:20PM

Shurimgreat wrote: »

Newstalk, Today FM as well as countless local stations. They all cover the current affairs issues pretty well. There is no difference between what Pat Kenny does and what Sean O'Rourke does for example.

Secondly, RTE have a habit of avoiding sensitive topics in a way independent stations do not.

RTE news and TV3 news are no different. Vincent Browne is far more analytical than anyone in RTE. RTE is usually very middle of the road. The Frontline was a good program, but they soon silenced that.

Lyric FM? Just give a licence to a private station that plays a large amont of classical music. Its not rocket science. You can control content via licence requirements. If they don't fulfill the requirement withdraw the licence. A station like Lyric probably doesn't have to pay large royalties like other stations due to copywrite expiry.

If the market could fill it like for like then let them BUT they are subject to market pressure and regression to the mean would be fairly likely. I agree they're not perfect and they might shy away from some topics but they are fairly impartial.

Local radio is fine and I hope your's was good but where I came from it was Midlands Radio 3 and I am eternally grateful to RTE.

darkpagandeath · 28-02-2015 07:21PM

drdidlittle wrote: »

True. With 100 convictions they'd be in jail for not havibg enouge wages / dole to pay all the fines.....

Nah was thinking more of the amount of crimes committed, What would be wrong with legal aid being refused for consistent repeat offenders ? Take stuff from their homes to pay for costs, Ban internet usage social media put mobile phone blockers into the house. Affecting them and their family would have a very quick result in behaviour change. Cant have fun without all your modern gadgets.

Axel Lamp · 28-02-2015 07:21PM

Ah it's a disgrace Joe, an absolute disgrace.

More grist to the left wing rabble mill.

A. DISGRACE.

conorh91 · 28-02-2015 07:22PM

bjork wrote: »

The judges and the gardai love this type of thing. It's their bread and butter.

How do they 'love it'?

What benefit does this ridiculous carry-on possibly confer on the Courts or the Gardai.

As the article said, Gardai want Revenue to be able to attach fines to salaries or social welfare payments.

5-hour imprisonment doesn't benefit the Courts, the Gardai NOR the taxpayer.

Some people are quite happy to sit in prison for three hours instead of paying a 400 or 500 euro fine.

Attachment of earnings would make the whole thing more efficient and it would actually be a disincentive to non-compliance.

darkpagandeath · 28-02-2015 07:24PM

Axel Lamp wrote: »

Ah it's a disgrace Joe, an absolute disgrace.

More grist to the left wing rabble mill.

A. DISGRACE.

Not really explain how this happens yet people with 100 convictions are still walking about.

Santa Cruz · 28-02-2015 07:25PM

conorh91 wrote: »

How do they 'love it'?

What benefit does this ridiculous carry-on possibly confer on the Courts or the Gardai.

As the article said, Gardai want Revenue to be able to attach fines to salaries or social welfare payments.

5-hour imprisonment doesn't benefit the Courts, the Gardai NOR the taxpayer.

Some people are quite happy to sit in prison for three hours instead of paying a 400 or 500 euro fine.

Attachment of earnings would make the whole thing more efficient and it would actually be a disincentive to non-compliance.

Its important that R.T.E. have the funds to pay Ryan Turbridys salary. Otherwise the country would lose his talent as he would be snapped up by Albanian TV or other top grade Broadcaster

shruikan2553 · 28-02-2015 07:27PM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Say what you like about RTE and BBC, but you would be sorry if you only have a choice between Fox news and cnn.

Not all programmes which are worthwhile can turn a profit. That's why Fox news is so much more entertaining with flashing icons, moving background, dolly-birds, and controversial issues of Rupert Mugdoch's choosing. Most importantly it's almost totally devoid of meaningful content. That's what the market would choose without licence fees.

RTE becoming even worse vs saving 160 a year. I'll take the cash thanks. Most of the world survives no problem without RTE, Im sure we could survive.

El_Duderino 09 · 28-02-2015 07:27PM

who the fug wrote: »

Won't comment on RTE, but BBC news is crap

Compared to what?

All 24 hour news is rubbish but the actual BBC news hour plus regional news is decent, the Politics Show, Sunday Politics, and lots of news shows and documentaries.

If you leave it to people and the market we'd have Fox news and Nazis from morning to night.

Little CuChulainn · 28-02-2015 07:28PM

bjork wrote: »

The wheels of justice in motion. Thank god they took her off the street, if only for a few hours Ireland was a safer place.

The judges and the gardai love this type of thing. It's their bread and butter.

I can assure you that Gardaí find it a massive waste of time and hate having to make these pointless trips. I'd wager judges would also prefer that their original sentence was followed instead of the forfeit as the few hours being processed is not exactly a punishment compared to the fine. They can both only work within existing law though.

darkpagandeath · 28-02-2015 07:28PM

Santa Cruz wrote: »

Its important that R.T.E. have the funds to pay Ryan Turbridys salary. Otherwise the country would lose his talent as he would be snapped up by Albanian TV or other top grade Broadcaster

And if you lower their wages they will move to the BBC, Even though no one over there has ever heard of them or offered them work. Pay peanuts get monkeys, Again we have the highest paid monkeys in the EU.

darkpagandeath · 28-02-2015 07:29PM

shruikan2553 wrote: »

RTE becoming even worse vs saving 160 a year. I'll take the cash thanks. Most of the world survives no problem without RTE, Im sure we could survive.

If the programming is so good, People would pay a subscription model. They keep banging on about how good the programming is. So roll on sub.

conorh91 · 28-02-2015 07:30PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

And if you lower their wages they will move to the BBC, Even though no one over there has ever heard of them or offered them work.

Tubridy has presented on BBC Radio 2 a number of times.

El_Duderino 09 · 28-02-2015 07:32PM

shruikan2553 wrote: »

RTE becoming even worse vs saving 160 a year. I'll take the cash thanks. Most of the world survives no problem without RTE, Im sure we could survive.

I disagree but fair enough.

Of course we would survive. We would be slightly less politically informed, cultured and educated and we would survive. I would prefer to pay the 160

Jawgap · 28-02-2015 07:34PM

conorh91 wrote: »

Tubridy has presented on BBC Radio 2 a number of times.

........as summer cover. It's not like they've courted him to move on a more permanent basis.

El_Duderino 09 · 28-02-2015 07:34PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

If the programming is so good, People would pay a subscription model. They keep banging on about how good the programming is. So roll on sub.

The market won't support the cultural and educational stuff. I suppose it's a case of special pleading for programming that I considered important as distinct from being profitable.

FWIW I think it should be based on good programming rather than celebrity presenters so I would be happy to cut the likes of Tubs, free

shruikan2553 · 28-02-2015 07:36PM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

I disagree but fair enough.

Of course we would survive. We would be slightly less politically informed, cultured and educated and we would survive. I would prefer to pay the 160

There are other sources. I dont watch RTE or BBC and yet I manage to get dressed in the morning without incident. Years ago when I did have access to RTE I didnt feel any more educated or informed, in fact I felt it was limited in those areas.

Jawgap · 28-02-2015 07:37PM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

The market won't support the cultural and educational stuff. I suppose it's a case of special pleading for programming that I considered important as distinct from being profitable.

Those type of programmes could and should be done, but there's nothing to stop RTE commissioning them on a more cost effective basis from private production companies working with universities and cultural institutions.

El_Duderino 09 · 28-02-2015 07:39PM

shruikan2553 wrote: »

There are other sources. I dont watch RTE or BBC and yet I manage to get dressed in the morning without incident. Years ago when I did have access to RTE I didnt feel any more educated or informed, in fact I felt it was limited in those areas.

Bully for you but that wasn't really the point, was it?

If the same or better information could reach as many or more people by a different method then go for it.

El_Duderino 09 · 28-02-2015 07:41PM

Jawgap wrote: »

Those type of programmes could and should be done, but there's nothing to stop RTE commissioning them on a more cost effective basis from private production companies working with universities and cultural institutions.

Sounds good to me.

Send your suggestion on a postcard to RTE.

Bongalongherb · 28-02-2015 07:42PM

mass_debater wrote: »

She should pay for the fcukin licence then like the rest of us and not wasting state funds paid by us taxpayers

Pay the TV licence like the rest of you slaves ? No-one should have to pay for a TV licence as it is only a receiver not a transmitter. If it was a transmitter you were using then I can understand as for the use of the radio frequency.

Sounds like a drone, droning on.. Us Taxpayers, jesus.

Sheldons Brain · 28-02-2015 07:43PM

There is a lot of guff here about the TV licence. Whatever you think of the TV licence that isn't really relevant to the ridiculous enforcement of fines, which is the issue here. Attachment of welfare etc seems the way to go. Also in the case of unpaid TV licence fines they should be allowed seize your tv and aerial/dish, which might do the trick.

mikemac1 · 28-02-2015 07:46PM

Why does it have to be Mountjoy?

Can't women serve time in Castlerea?

Portlaoise?

Loughan House in Cavan?

Jawgap · 28-02-2015 07:46PM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Sounds good to me.

Send your suggestion on a postcard to RTE.

Have RTE ever advocated a reduced licence fee?

Think they'd start now just because I contact them

Woman who failed to pay TV licence fine taken to jail in five-hour taxi trip

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