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permanent ice rink

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  • #32
    Lapin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,183 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    yes lets build an ice rink instead of a childrens hospital

    Good point.




    Actually no - Sod the sick kids.

    And sod the ice hurlin shíte too.

    This country needs more greyhound tracks dammit. :mad:


  • #33
    Lapin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,183 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »

    I'll give you a hint, its in Wyoming.

    Now THAT is what I call a hint. One with the answer virtually included for free.

    If only the hints my missus gives were half as clear cut as that !


  • #34
    Tearin It Up
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 449 ✭✭Tearin It Up


    Do Irish people know how to skate on ice? Is an ice rink needed.

    Went ice skating once and came out covered in bruises.


  • #35
    Berserker
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    Mr.S wrote: »
    An all year round ice rink wouldn't be economical here.

    The profitability of the temporary rinks in Dublin would suggest otherwise.


  • #36
    conorh91
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭conorh91


    Berserker wrote: »
    The profitability of the temporary rinks in Dublin would suggest otherwise.
    Not if they are profitable because they are temporary.

    Presumably the temporary rinks are controlled by rational businessmen. Why would they close during warmer months if it were profitable year-round?

    Plenty of empty warehouses in Dublin, so that's not an issue. But profitability must be.


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  • #37
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Berserker wrote: »
    The profitability of the temporary rinks in Dublin would suggest otherwise.

    The non profitability of the permanent ones in the past would suggest its right.


  • #38
    hfallada
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,179 ✭✭✭hfallada


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    They need to figure out how claims and injuries on the ice are covered in other countries, then open one here. At the moment if someone caught a cold on the ice they could sue.

    Well they are the norm in most US cities. I know we have a claims culture. But the US seriously takes the first prize for that. If the US can handle the lawsuits, so we.

    Although you think Dublin would have the market for all year ice skating. Munich a city of 3,8 Million people dont have an all year ice rink and they love winter sports. So a large population doesnt mean there is the demand for it. I dont think Irish people would skate all year round to be honest.


  • #39
    WoollyRedHat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    I'm going to go to my local field, ice it over, then rob some fences and create my own little rink. I'll invite figure skaters from all over the world to the grand opening.


  • #40
    cena
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,395 ✭✭✭✭cena


    WoollyRedHat wrote: »
    I'm going to go to my local field, ice it over, then rob some fences and create my own little rink. I'll invite figure skaters from all over the world to the grand opening.

    How well you keep the ice cool enough to stay frozen?


  • #41
    MRnotlob606
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,642 ✭✭✭MRnotlob606


    Because we are shíte at Ice Hockey ?


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  • #42
    cena
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,395 ✭✭✭✭cena


    MRnotlob606 wrote: »
    Because we are shíte at Ice Hockey ?

    How do you know? Have you seen the Irish teams play?


  • #43
    ytpe2r5bxkn0c1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    The non profitability of the permanent ones in the past would suggest its right.

    Absolutely! There was an excellent permanent rink in Dundalk but it was not profitable. All those moaning to Joe Duffy a couple of weeks ago about travelling to Belfast for ice dancing, hockey etc were not enough to warrant the cost of a permanent rink in this country. It was just too much of a minority sport. Its one thing having a small temporary rink for kids to mess about on over Christmas but the demand is not there to justify maintaining a full size rink all year round.


  • #44
    cena
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,395 ✭✭✭✭cena


    River Slimy Mothball wrote: »
    Absolutely! There was an excellent permanent rink in Dundalk but it was not profitable. All those moaning to Joe Duffy a couple of weeks ago about travelling to Belfast for ice dancing, hockey etc were not enough to warrant the cost of a permanent rink in this country. It was just too much of a minority sport. Its one thing having a small temporary rink for kids to mess about on over Christmas but the demand is not there to justify maintaining a full size rink all year round.

    But did the rink at Dundalk suite everyone where it was?
    If there was one in the middle of the country say Athlone it could be easier for people to get too.


  • #45
    4zn76tysfajdxp
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    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    yes lets build an ice rink instead of a childrens hospital
    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    maybe they should have thought of that before they formed a fcuking team

    What an outburst.


  • #46
    cena
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,395 ✭✭✭✭cena


    Bobby Rancid Mortar wrote: »
    What an outburst.

    Should just make more soccer and gaa pitches cause that is played in Ireland.
    What is wrong with expanding peoole s interest outside of these sports??


  • #47
    ytpe2r5bxkn0c1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    cena wrote: »
    But did the rink at Dundalk suite everyone where it was?
    If there was one in the middle of the country say Athlone it could be easier for people to get too.

    This old chestnut again. It was 50 minutes, or less, from Dublin with motorway all the way. It's catchment area included some of the most densely populated parts of the country. Athlone may be in the middle but it's a fair drive from any centres of population. In addition people are saying they have to travel to Belfast at the moment but not enough were travelling less than half the distance to use the one in Dundalk, which was actually a finer rink than Belfast.
    The fact remains that there is not sufficient interest to justify the cost of a permanent rink.


  • #48
    cena
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,395 ✭✭✭✭cena


    River Slimy Mothball wrote: »
    This old chestnut again. It was 50 minutes, or less, from Dublin with motorway all the way. It's catchment area included some of the most densely populated parts of the country. Athlone may be in the middle but it's a fair drive from any centres of population. In addition people are saying they have to travel to Belfast at the moment but not enough were travelling less than half the distance to use the one in Dundalk, which was actually a finer rink than Belfast.
    The fact remains that there is not sufficient interest to justify the cost of a permanent rink.
    Yes but not all of us live a 50 minute drive to Dundalk.
    It have been a 5 hour trip for me there and back.


  • #49
    nc19
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭nc19


    Woshy wrote:
    Is there not one in Dolphin's Barn? Or is that gone Now?


    I remember going there about 25 yrs ago. my 1 and only time


  • #50
    ytpe2r5bxkn0c1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    cena wrote: »
    Yes but not all of us live a 50 minute drive to Dundalk.
    It have been a 5 hour trip for me there and back.

    Read it again. The point was that a large population, by Irish standards, lives within 90 minutes of Dundalk. We'll build one beside you so and see how many travel there to use it, as the catchment area is obviously bigger. You might still suffer from an insufficient level of interest in it there too though.


  • #51
    ytpe2r5bxkn0c1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    nc19 wrote: »
    I remember going there about 25 yrs ago. my 1 and only time

    It's infrequent visitors like you that cause the rinks to close. Shame on you! ;)


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  • #52
    cena
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,395 ✭✭✭✭cena


    River Slimy Mothball wrote: »
    Read it again. The point was that a large population, by Irish standards, lives within 90 minutes of Dundalk. We'll build one beside you so and see how many travel there to use it, as the catchment area is obviously bigger. You might still suffer from an insufficient level of interest in it there too though.

    No point in having one in ther countryside. So I won't build one


  • #53
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    cena wrote: »
    No point in having one in ther countryside. So I won't build one
    Have you a bigger population centre and catchment area than Dublin to try it in? Cos they failed there before.


  • #54
    MillField
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 649 ✭✭✭MillField


    It would need more than one. But ice hockey and the like does sound like good craic.


  • #55
    cena
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,395 ✭✭✭✭cena


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    Have you a bigger population centre and catchment area than Dublin to try it in? Cos they failed there before.

    If a rink is built it well be in the Dublin area. Like everything else is in dublin


  • #56
    ytpe2r5bxkn0c1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    cena wrote: »
    No point in having one in ther countryside. So I won't build one

    Ah, so the penny drops!!!


  • #57
    cena
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,395 ✭✭✭✭cena


    River Slimy Mothball wrote: »
    Ah, so the penny drops!!!

    ??


  • #58
    Arsemageddon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Arsemageddon


    Lapin wrote: »
    Now THAT is what I call a hint. One with the answer virtually included for free.

    If only the hints my missus gives were half as clear cut as that !

    Were the divorce papers and the restraining order too subtle for ya?


  • #59
    CrabRevolution
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,156 ✭✭✭CrabRevolution


    cena wrote: »
    Should just make more soccer and gaa pitches cause that is played in Ireland.
    What is wrong with expanding peoole s interest outside of these sports??

    Probably because soccer and GAA pitches are just fields of grass with painted lines and posts at both ends. They require little maintenance to be kept at a basic level, and the grass surface thrives in our climate. The usage would be quite high too, since the number of GAA, soccer and rugby players, supporters etc. probably measures in the millions in this country.

    Ice hockey rinks on the other hand are a very expensive amenity to build, and would cost an absolute fortune to just keep frozen. I'd also wager that there are fewer than 1000 ice hockey players in Ireland, so the frequency of use wouldn't be very high.

    Its not so much denying people access to alternative sports, just that every rink so far has proven to be unprofitable, so who do you suggest pays for this new rink?


  • #60
    Anesthetize
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,471 ✭✭✭Anesthetize


    cena wrote: »
    But did the rink at Dundalk suite everyone where it was?
    If there was one in the middle of the country say Athlone it could be easier for people to get too.
    I'm surprised AIT haven't built one already. They did build a useless indoor athletics track after all.


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  • #61
    Teyla Emmagan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,638 ✭✭✭Teyla Emmagan


    Capt'n Midnight wrote: »
    1980 when the Dublin Ice Rink opened in a converted cinema in Dolphin’s Barn Rialto, an area on the southside of Dublin city. The rink surface was small, a mere third the size of an Olympic rink

    It was in a converted cinema! Now all the jumbled memories in my head make sense.. That place was great, went for a couple of birthday parties I think around the age of 10, it was fantastic. I thought I was the business, doing my little bit of backwards skating.

    Does anyone remember a rollerdisco, somewhere funny like Wicklow (or even South Co Dublin, it seemed far away).


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