Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Read Mod Warning in OP 7/1/15

irishfeen · 21-02-2015 05:32PM

City 1 up within a min ... we are miles behind them.. remember us being that clinical.

spiralism · 21-02-2015 05:35PM

I'm genuinely worried that once we hit that gauntlet of Arsenal, Spurs, City, Scouse and Chelsea we're looking at 5 defeats and the season completely going down the ****ter.

We gotta face it, we're ****ing crap. Been good in two games this year - QPR and Hull. Couldn't buy an away win

Whats worse is we still have this trend from last year of false dawns, every time we think they may be out to turn a corner, they go out and drop more points away from home.

niallo27 · 21-02-2015 05:37PM

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

Yep. If you qiped out three or four on either side, this **** would stop very quickly.

I'll admit there is ****e in both sides but at times you can't even critizise a team without getting accused of trolling. Liverpool fans will always take pleasure at utd losing especially the way this season is going. Sometimes it over the top and sometimes people are too precious. This goes for both sides.

irishfeen · 21-02-2015 05:38PM

spiralism wrote: »

I'm genuinely worried that once we hit that gauntlet of Arsenal, Spurs, City, Scouse and Chelsea we're looking at 5 defeats and the season completely going down the ****ter.

We gotta face it, we're ****ing crap.

Well we're not "crap" its just that the rest are better then us, re-building the team is just past half way IMO.. better days are ahead!

PhlegmyMoses · 21-02-2015 05:39PM

niallo27 wrote: »

I'll admit there is ****e in both sides but at times you can't even critizise a team without getting accused of trolling. Liverpool fans will always take pleasure at utd losing especially the way this season is going. Sometimes it over the top and sometimes people are too precious. This goes for both sides.

It's boring mate. A group of grown ups trying to score points in an internet war starring fans of two sides from a different country. It's mental.

spiralism · 21-02-2015 05:42PM

irishfeen wrote: »

Well we're not "crap" its just that the rest are better then us, re-building the team is just past half way IMO.. better days are ahead!

I bloody hope so.

Van Gaal usually has had an upturn in performances with his teams by this stage in the season any other job he's had though. I'm trying to put it down to the massive amounts of injuries meaning it was difficult to make things gel but im beginning to worry a little if it's gonna come at all now. This side had its confidence smashed to bits last year and still haven't got it back, one thing goes wrong and its dropped points for sure instead of getting down and getting the three points.

secman · 21-02-2015 05:43PM

You would wonder how the Glaziers will view the season especially having forked out and backed LVG. .. If we carry on the same form and limp on till end of season.. hard to see us getting CL spot and winning FA cup.. just can't put a good 90 min in , not all season thus far... I know we still have some dead wood to shift... but the likes of Di Maria should be standing out a mile. .. still a lot of clearing out to be done, sometimes LVG sounds like a spoofer.... frustrating is not the word..... will the Glaziers trust LG with another wad ?
..

Liam McPoyle · 21-02-2015 05:44PM

For the first time this season Im genuinely concerned for a top 4 finish.

I think the Gunners will have enough to get 3rd so that leaves us to slog it out with LFC, Spurs and the Saints.

LFC seem to be clicking a bit and Sturridge back is a massive boost.

Spurs have Kane in a rich vein of form.

Saints are very well organised and are plugging away.

The only thing (theoretically) that we have an advantage over Spurs and LFC is no Thursday footy, still though, that can be a blessing and a curse.

Fugg it, Ive a bottle of gin and 12 bottles of San Miguel to get stuck into at a house party later, stupid United harshing my buzz.

21-02-2015 05:45PM

spiralism wrote: »

I bloody hope so.

Van Gaal usually has had an upturn in performances with his teams by this stage in the season any other job he's had though. I'm trying to put it down to the massive amounts of injuries meaning it was difficult to make things gel but im beginning to worry a little if it's gonna come at all now. This side had its confidence smashed to bits last year and still haven't got it back, one thing goes wrong and its dropped points for sure instead of getting down and getting the three points.

Last year shouldn't come into it at all with LVG having the team for 8 months and bringing in 5 new players. You can't really use that as an excuse.

Cantona's Collars · 21-02-2015 05:46PM

irishfeen wrote: »

Well we're not "crap" its just that the rest are better then us, re-building the team is just past half way IMO.. better days are ahead!

2 losses out of 20 and this place goes mental.

However,the training drills for the week should be on shooting from around the edge of the box,the default these days is pass it sideways when in range.

irishfeen · 21-02-2015 05:48PM

spiralism wrote: »

I bloody hope so.

Van Gaal usually has had an upturn in performances with his teams by this stage in the season any other job he's had though. I'm trying to put it down to the massive amounts of injuries meaning it was difficult to make things gel but im beginning to worry a little if it's gonna come at all now. This side had its confidence smashed to bits last year and still haven't got it back, one thing goes wrong and its dropped points for sure instead of getting down and getting the three points.

Yes but in all honesty .. probably Valencia, Jones, McNair, RVP, Smalling, Evans will not have a 1st team (premier league winning) future at United. Who knows you may throw a few more in too...

We will see a host of players in over the next few windows.

secman · 21-02-2015 05:51PM

zerks wrote: »

2 losses out of 20 ...

That stat hides a multitude... really does

irishfeen · 21-02-2015 05:52PM

secman wrote: »

You would wonder how the Glaziers will view the season especially having forked out and backed LVG. .. If we carry on the same form and limp on till end of season.. hard to see us getting CL spot and winning FA cup.. just can't put a good 90 min in , not all season thus far... I know we still have some dead wood to shift... but the likes of Di Maria should be standing out a mile. .. still a lot of clearing out to be done, sometimes LVG sounds like a spoofer.... frustrating is not the word..... will the Glaziers trust LG with another wad ?
..

He will stay once we do better then 7th IMO ... his reputation/history of building teams is excellent. I actually wouldn't want to get rid of him

Mantis Toboggan · 21-02-2015 05:52PM

I wish we could play like city. We wasted so much money on mediocre players.

irishfeen · 21-02-2015 05:54PM

zerks wrote: »

2 losses out of 20 and this place goes mental.

However,the training drills for the week should be on shooting from around the edge of the box,the default these days is pass it sideways when in range.

Well top 4 was all our objective at the start of the season, anything less will be massively disappointing.. you see it was always going to be this hard replacing SAF's title winning team.

irishfeen · 21-02-2015 05:55PM

Louis Van Haal wrote: »

I wish we could play like city. We wasted so much money on mediocre players.

Ha city have spent a few pound assembling that team mind you

secman · 21-02-2015 05:56PM

irishfeen wrote: »

He will stay once we do better then 7th IMO ... his reputation/history of building teams is excellent. I actually wouldn't want to get rid of him

Not saying I would either.. just wondering about Glaziers. ... They didn't hang around last season and hadn't forked out as much......LVG does look worried at times and I stand corrected .. did he even mention it ?

Whatsisname · 21-02-2015 05:57PM

Louis Van Haal wrote: »

I wish we could play like city. We wasted so much money on mediocre players.

Some very good players just playing mediocre a part of it too.

irishfeen · 21-02-2015 05:59PM

secman wrote: »

Not saying I would either.. just wondering about Glaziers. ... They didn't hang around last season and hadn't forked out as much......LVG does look worried at times and I stand corrected .. did he even mention it ?

Glazers aren't stupid, they know the club can survive a few seasons without CL football for the greater good - I have absolutely no doubt in my mind LVG will build a title winning side.. he needs 3 things to do it - Time, Money and Club support.

I think he will get all 3 no problem... you have to remember this is LVG's swansong to world football, this is his baby now.

Pyjamarama · 21-02-2015 06:01PM

irishfeen wrote: »

Glazers aren't stupid, they know the club can survive a few seasons without CL football for the greater good - I have absolutely no doubt in my mind LVG will build a title winning side.. he needs 3 things to do it - Time, Money and Club support.

I think he will get all 3 no problem.

No doubts? Even if he gets united firing they're MILES behind City and Chelsea atm. Its gonna take a great side to catch those too as well. Especially Chelsea who seem to be able to sell average players for infi money and buy better ones for less...

RichFTW · 21-02-2015 06:03PM

https://twitter.com/Troll__Football/status/569182898869428224

adox · 21-02-2015 06:03PM

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

On the topic of De Gea, I know that it's anathema to most to criticise him but does anybody think that a lot of our struggles with crosses and corners come from him not claiming balls in and around the 6 yard area. I'd love to seee him clear house and claim a ball early on to stop players from getting brave with their crosses.

I've brought that issue up a couple of times and got zero response to it.
It's certainly not the only problem at the back but it certainly is a problem.
Also it doesn't take the opposition long to work out that set pieces can be fired as close to the goal as they want without being "to near to the keeper".

irishfeen · 21-02-2015 06:03PM

Pyjamarama wrote: »

No doubts? Even if he gets united firing they're MILES behind City and Chelsea atm. Its gonna take a great side to catch those too as well. Especially Chelsea who seem to be able to sell average players for infi money and buy better ones for less...

If we didn't throw away some ridiculous points this season we would be very close - City/Chelsea are very good but certainly not uncatchable over the next season or two.

mickmackey1 · 21-02-2015 06:04PM

irishfeen wrote: »

Well top 4 was all our objective at the start of the season, anything less will be massively disappointing.. you see it was always going to be this hard replacing SAF's title winning team.

nonsense, if fergie was still there ye'd be top or close to it.

Pyjamarama · 21-02-2015 06:05PM

irishfeen wrote: »

If we didn't throw away some ridiculous points this season we would be very close - City/Chelsea are very good but certainly not uncatchable over the next season or two.

I'm sure City and Chelsea fans think the points they've thrown away are ridiculous too. The eye test says that those two are miles ahead of the rest atm. Impossible to argue with imo. Look at what City are doing to newcastle. Couldn't see United destroying them like that any time soon.

Timmyctc · 21-02-2015 06:07PM

RichFTW wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Troll__Football/status/569182898869428224

That twitter account is absolutely less funny than cancer imo.

Here is a gem of theirs from earlier in the day.

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Montroseee · 21-02-2015 06:07PM

People talk about Di Maria's previous season as if he was on Ronaldo's level or close to it, it's just been so exaggerated. Yes he was world class last year and put in some huge performances, but the rest of his career at Madrid was nothing like it, always fell into the category of 'don't get the hype' for me. There are plenty of players, wingers in particular, who have appeared world class for a season or so and have then faded badly. Nani being the perfect example of this. ADM has been so so poor for ages now, I suspect PSG really was his first preference.

secman · 21-02-2015 06:07PM

irishfeen wrote: »

If we didn't throw away some ridiculous points this season we would be very close - City/Chelsea are very good but certainly not uncatchable over the next season or two.

That's a bit of if me granny had balls she's d be me grandad ..... We have dropped ridiculous points.. We haven't played well all season.. These are facts..

irishfeen · 21-02-2015 06:10PM

mickmackey1 wrote: »

nonsense, if fergie was still there ye'd be top or close to it.

Ferguson would almost have won the PL in his sleep with most teams in the top 6 teams - his ability to win from losing situations was absolutely staggering... you are right, he probably would have but saying SAF would win the league opposed to any other manager is ridiculous.

SAF was the best manager in club football history.

bucketybuck · 21-02-2015 06:11PM

Liam O wrote: »

Last year shouldn't come into it at all with LVG having the team for 8 months and bringing in 5 new players. You can't really use that as an excuse.

8 months and the players still haven't the foggiest notion what they are supposed to be doing.

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