Evo 2015 on PS4: Cobelcog banned from playing

Doctor DooM · 18-02-2015 08:36AM #1

http://shoryuken.com/2015/02/17/evo-2015s-ultra-street-fighter-iv-tournament-to-run-exclusively-on-playstation-4/

Seeing as they're giving 50 grand to the prize pool that's understandable, but what about the 360 pad players? Is there a converter for them yet?

The announcement says there will be loaner sticks but that's not going to help them...

Also, hurry up and launch on PS4 then!

K.O.Kiki · 18-02-2015 09:09AM

No converters at all AFAIK

Edit:
found this: XCM Cross Fire 3

Scavenger XIII · 18-02-2015 09:39AM

Ugh.

More selling out.

"Hey guys, in this years marathon 25% of you will be hit in the knees with a hammer before the race, but it's okay because there's a bigger prize pool!" :pac:

chopperbyrne · 18-02-2015 09:53AM

Can someone copy and paste the article for those of us who can't access the site in work?

Doctor DooM · 18-02-2015 10:29AM

Scavenger XIII wrote: »

Ugh.

More selling out.

"Hey guys, in this years marathon 25% of you will be hit in the knees with a hammer before the race, but it's okay because there's a bigger prize pool!" :pac:

Was it selling out when they went from PS3 to 360?

bush · 18-02-2015 10:34AM

Pad losers get with the program

Doctor DooM · 18-02-2015 10:39AM

chopperbyrne wrote: »

Can someone copy and paste the article for those of us who can't access the site in work?

Have an excerpt:

Over the years, Street Fighter IV has graced a variety of platforms, including PlayStation 3, Xbox 360, and PC, all of which have been utilized in competition at one point or another. PlayStation 3 was the console of choice early on, but recent years have seen a shift to Xbox 360 due to frequent issues with Sony’s older platform.

Unfortunately, little can be gleaned about the PlayStation 4 port at this time, simply because it has yet to actually be released. The initial announcement at PlayStation Experience pegged the title for a spring 2015 launch, but details have been scarce since then.

One can possibly make the connection between this decision and Sony’s support of Capcom Pro Tour 2015, through which they most likely want to hype up the latest release of Ultra Street Fighter IV leading up to Street Fighter V’s arrival.

Evo’s Joey “Mr. Wizard” Cuellar relayed to us that loaner sticks will be available for folks who don’t own a controller compatible with the new system, hopefully alleviating some of the added stress this change places on their shoulders.

chopperbyrne · 18-02-2015 10:57AM

Or Capcom could just patch the game to allow PS3 controllers.

Scavenger XIII · 18-02-2015 12:09PM

Doctor DooM wrote: »

Was it selling out when they went from PS3 to 360?

The PS3 version is generally known to suck and there are widely available controllers compatible with both consoles so no. Though I wouldn't be surprised if money changed hands over that too.

All this accomplishes is pushing competitors to use equipment they aren't comfortable with in exchange for cash money (and probably Capcom trying to push another most likely shoddy port for a quick buck). Even if you aren't a 360 pad player getting the shaft I can't be the only person who uses a non-standard stick because they hate using certain models of sticks/buttons. That's another set of people who either use a controller they dislike or buy and modify an expensive new PS4 stick.

Sure they will eventually have to make the jump to next gen in the name of "progress" but I don't see any reason for it until SF5 drops.

chopperbyrne wrote: »

Or Capcom could just patch the game to allow PS3 controllers.

This would be the obvious solution if they care abut maintaining goodwill but it probably won't happen.

EDIT: It wouldn't benefit 360 pad players anyway so it's moot I guess.

Doctor DooM · 18-02-2015 12:31PM

Scavenger XIII wrote: »

This would be the obvious solution if they care abut maintaining goodwill but it probably won't happen.

Seriously.

500,000 dollars doesn't do that?

Scavenger XIII · 18-02-2015 02:07PM

Doctor DooM wrote: »

Seriously.

500,000 dollars doesn't do that?

What difference does that make to the majority though? How many people will actually taste that prize pool?

ayjayirl · 18-02-2015 02:28PM

Scavenger XIII wrote: »

What difference does that make to the majority though? How many people will actually taste that prize pool?

Those that are good enough. An analogy would be the money paid to footballers at the top vs Sun league footy. The sport proliferates through the success of the best.

Or did I miss the point?

Doctor DooM · 18-02-2015 02:32PM

Scavenger XIII wrote: »

What difference does that make to the majority though? How many people will actually taste that prize pool?

It means that the top competitive players this year have a reason to pick SF over any other FG to go for the prize, meaning the quality of streams and events will be higher.

It means motivation for people to make it to the smaller, regional premiere events as they have a prize pool of 15,000 each too. It means we'll all be seeing bigger players at these events.

It means that the people who do win big this year will be able to live for a couple of years without worrying about working outside of promoting the genre we all love and want to succeed.

For those of us invested in growing the FG scene locally it means things might be taken a whole lot more serious by potential local sponsors when they see SF mentioned in the same breath as LoL and DOTA.

Seriously, it's time to look at the bigger picture. This makes a difference. It ensures the scenes survival for another couple of years.

I have said here so many times to so many people "it's your responsibility to make sure you've the right stick for the gig." This is no different, the TO chooses the platform, you go or don't.

Bearing in mind you can use a PS4 pad with a PS3 if you want to practice on the cheap, and Evo will have loaner sticks for the event, how far exactly is the world of tournament organising and corporate sponsorship supposed to bend for people?

chopperbyrne · 18-02-2015 02:46PM

Doctor DooM wrote: »

SNIP

Sairus · 18-02-2015 02:52PM

I wonder what the chances of Capcom adding the Lab Zero PS3 stick drivers to SF4 are.

Doctor DooM · 18-02-2015 02:55PM

Sairus wrote: »

I wonder what the chances of Capcom adding the Lab Zero PS3 stick drivers to SF4 are.

I'd say zero sadly. They'll prob want to protect the add on sales of sticks and pads.

I will be hype if they do though. I'm not saying I'm happy about the situation, in a perfect world everyone could just do what they wanted.

Scavenger XIII · 18-02-2015 03:31PM

That's all well and good and I can figure all that for myself, but what about the guys who only play on 360 pad?

There's a surprising amount of them at top level gracing our streams, in fact I believe there were several in top 8 last year.

Now some of them can probably jump to PS3 pad without any bother, but ones who can't or will have trouble adjusting, how do they feel? Are they happy that there's a now a bigger prize they might struggle to obtain being hobbled by this decision?

Now do I actually care that much? Hell no, doesn't affect me but I think some people probably feel a bit victimised by the decision being made now when the leap isn't necessary yet.

I wouldn't even have bothered posting about it more than once but the point I tried to make seems to have been missed entirely. I think it's a dick move to these guys who play a certain way that is suddenly no longer supported, if it turns out they don't care then I don't give a toss either.

K.O.Kiki · 18-02-2015 05:46PM

The only 3rd-party pads I can see right now are d-pad + 6 button.

PDP Mortal Kombat X (2 triggers)
http://www.amazon.com/Mortal-Kombat-Fight-Pad-PlayStation-4/dp/B00TKTHZB4/ref=sr_1_32?ie=UTF8&qid=1424281201&sr=8-32&keywords=ps4+pad

Hori Fighting Commander 4 (4 switchable triggers)
http://gaming.moe/?p=512

J0hnick · 18-02-2015 07:41PM

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

The only 3rd-party pads I can see right now are d-pad + 6 button.

PDP Mortal Kombat X (2 triggers)
http://www.amazon.com/Mortal-Kombat-Fight-Pad-PlayStation-4/dp/B00TKTHZB4/ref=sr_1_32?ie=UTF8&qid=1424281201&sr=8-32&keywords=ps4+pad

Hori Fighting Commander 4 (4 switchable triggers)
http://gaming.moe/?p=512

If I didn't have a budget gaming PC that usually out performs the current gen systems, Id probably buy one of those.

Thankfully, this has been my weapon of choice since 2004

And still works to this day

(plugged into an Xtokki 360 adapter)

Naphiel · 18-02-2015 10:43PM

PS4 doesn't have a select button, isn't that a big deal for some characters?

K.O.Kiki · 18-02-2015 11:35PM

J0hnick wrote: »

If I didn't have a budget gaming PC that usually out performs the current gen systems, Id probably buy one of those.

Thankfully, this has been my weapon of choice since 2004

And still works to this day (plugged into an Xtokki 360 adapter)

Those pads are so damn rare now.

Doctor DooM · 19-02-2015 08:33AM

Naphiel wrote: »

PS4 doesn't have a select button, isn't that a big deal for some characters?

It means some people who've been using it to plink will have to jab honest

Owwmykneecap · 19-02-2015 11:08AM

I'm sure the touch pad will double for select.

It is a kick in the face of the reigning evo champ though.

Evo 2015 on PS4: Cobelcog banned from playing

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