Women drive because they dont care about being raped

SaveOurLyric · 11-02-2015 08:24PM #1

according to Saudi historian Dr Saleh al-Saadoon.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-historian-claims-western-women-drive-because-they-dont-care-about-being-raped-10038861.html

Its a view I wouldn't necessarily agree with, and am sure there are a lot of Irish people who would consider his opinion incorrect. Nevertheless, its a point of view I guess, and while he comes down against it, shows that Saudi is at least exploring the issue of women drivers and whether or not it is a suitable activity for them, and explaining their rationale for their laws on the topic.

The_Valeyard · 11-02-2015 08:25PM

Ah, another Islam thread :P

seenitall · 11-02-2015 08:27PM

You wouldn't necessarily agree with it? Really?

You're funny, OP.

fedor.2. · 11-02-2015 08:29PM

SaveOurLyric wrote: »

according to Saudi historian Dr Saleh al-Saadoon.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-historian-claims-western-women-drive-because-they-dont-care-about-being-raped-10038861.html

Its a view I wouldn't necessarily agree with, and am sure there are a lot of Irish people who would consider his opinion incorrect. Nevertheless, its a point of view I guess, and while he comes down against it, shows that Saudi is at least exploring the issue of women drivers and whether or not it is a suitable activity for them, and explaining their rationale for their laws on the topic.

Sorry, are you actually trying to make the Saudis look reasonable? He's talking sh1te

ancapailldorcha · 11-02-2015 08:30PM

Is this serious? Christ.

Kermit.de.frog · 11-02-2015 08:31PM

He may have a point. Let's work with this guy and thrash it out.

Arsemageddon · 11-02-2015 08:33PM

I don't remember being asked about this during my driver theory test!

BlaasForRafa · 11-02-2015 08:35PM

Arsemageddon wrote: »

I don't remember being asked about this during my driver theory test!

That's on the advanced driving test now apparently.

Chucken · 11-02-2015 08:40PM

SaveOurLyric wrote: »

Its a view I wouldn't necessarily agree with/QUOTE]

That's very big of you. :rolleyes:

Donkey Oaty · 11-02-2015 08:51PM

Saadoon the Saudi (for it is he) says:

“They don’t care if they are raped on the roadside - but we do”

So you see, he is actually a caring person who is protecting women.

At least he is standing up against sexual violence, unlike the Islamophobic PC "let's allow women to drive" brigade who are all in favour of roadside rape.

mad muffin · 11-02-2015 08:56PM

Wait I don't understand...

I didn't think Muslims did rape? Muslim woman, in a Muslim country raped by a Muslim man because her car broke down?

What's that? Oh, it's the infidels that the peaceable Muslims have let into the country that do the raping.

So the Saudis let rapists in to their country. So to protect their Muslim women, they should not drive.

I get it...

Duggy747 · 11-02-2015 08:56PM

Chucken · 11-02-2015 08:59PM

I'd suggest that the big burly Saudi men can't change a tyre or fill petrol from a can. Thats why they don't want the women driving.
It makes the men look stupid

DeadHand · 11-02-2015 09:02PM

Chucken wrote: »

I'd suggest that the big burly Saudi men can't change a tyre or fill petrol from a can. Thats why they don't want the women driving.
It makes the men look stupid

I'd suggest Islam is a fundamentally misogynistic ideology.

Which is why an Islamic theocracy doesn't want women driving.

It makes them look like adult human beings and not something between a child and livestock.

willmunny1990 · 11-02-2015 09:06PM

SaveOurLyric wrote: »

according to Saudi historian Dr Saleh al-Saadoon.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-historian-claims-western-women-drive-because-they-dont-care-about-being-raped-10038861.html

Its a view I wouldn't necessarily agree with, and am sure there are a lot of Irish people who would consider his opinion incorrect. Nevertheless, its a point of view I guess, and while he comes down against it, shows that Saudi is at least exploring the issue of women drivers and whether or not it is a suitable activity for them, and explaining their rationale for their laws on the topic.

A suitable activity for them?!:pac:

Venus In Furs · 11-02-2015 10:46PM

SaveOurLyric wrote: »

according to Saudi historian Dr Saleh al-Saadoon.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-historian-claims-western-women-drive-because-they-dont-care-about-being-raped-10038861.html

Its a view I wouldn't necessarily agree with, and am sure there are a lot of Irish people who would consider his opinion incorrect. Nevertheless, its a point of view I guess, and while he comes down against it, shows that Saudi is at least exploring the issue of women drivers and whether or not it is a suitable activity for them, and explaining their rationale for their laws on the topic.

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

He may have a point. Let's work with this guy and thrash it out.

What's with this "They may have a point" fashion in relation to obvious lunacy?

SeanW · 12-02-2015 02:19AM

fedor.2. wrote: »

Sorry, are you actually trying to make the Saudis look reasonable? He's talking sh1te

No, I've seen videos of other Saudis explaining the ban on women driving. They're all just as bonkers.

mad muffin wrote: »

Wait I don't understand...

I didn't think Muslims did rape? Muslim woman, in a Muslim country raped by a Muslim man because her car broke down?

What sort of a tip is Saudi Arabia where if a woman is on her own attending to a car breakdown, she's likely to be raped by some opportunistic stranger? Seriously wtf?

I also don't get the good doctors' approach of allowing foreign women to act as chauffers to the locals, doesn't that just make the previous problem multiply by two?

Venus In Furs wrote: »

What's with this "They may have a point" fashion in relation to obvious lunacy?

I think Kermit was joking.

bb1234567 · 12-02-2015 02:20AM

saudi arabia logic makes me lol

darkpagandeath · 12-02-2015 02:56AM

Victim blaming, But they bring it to a whole new level.

KungPao · 12-02-2015 03:23AM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Victim blaming, But they bring it to a whole new level.

They wheely do.

kowloon · 12-02-2015 03:57AM

If women could drive in SA they'd all leave.

tritium · 12-02-2015 09:08AM

Its Saudi. A nation whose rulers so love the 15th century that they not only have established it in their own country but have also tried to export it to every unstable nation they think might take it (with at best a blind eye being turned by an oil hungry west)

Homophobia, torture, terrorism, a fish bowl for an elite wealthy subclass that at times make north Korea look almost progressive

The good doctor is just a bit of light comedy relief amidst all this.....:(

kylith · 12-02-2015 09:38AM

SaveOurLyric wrote: »

according to Saudi historian Dr Saleh al-Saadoon.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-historian-claims-western-women-drive-because-they-dont-care-about-being-raped-10038861.html

Its a view I wouldn't necessarily agree with, and am sure there are a lot of Irish people who would consider his opinion incorrect. Nevertheless, its a point of view I guess, and while he comes down against it, shows that Saudi is at least exploring the issue of women drivers and whether or not it is a suitable activity for them, and explaining their rationale for their laws on the topic.

Are.... are you real? Like, really?

'whether or not [driving] is a suitable activity for [women]?' Can you give any reasons why it wouldn't be?

pueblo · 12-02-2015 01:28PM

Venus In Furs wrote: »

What's with this "They may have a point" fashion in relation to obvious lunacy?

SeanW wrote: »

No, I've seen videos of other Saudis explaining the ban on women driving. They're all just as bonkers.

What sort of a tip is Saudi Arabia where if a woman is on her own attending to a car breakdown, she's likely to be raped by some opportunistic stranger? Seriously wtf?

I also don't get the good doctors' approach of allowing foreign women to act as chauffers to the locals, doesn't that just make the previous problem multiply by two?

I think Kermit was joking.

Not at all...foreign women don't mind being raped remember?

SaveOurLyric · 12-02-2015 02:23PM

kylith wrote: »

Are.... are you real? Like, really?

'whether or not [driving] is a suitable activity for [women]?' Can you give any reasons why it wouldn't be?

I suppose thats what the Saudi guy is doing and what the debate is about. I would be pretty sure a majority of Irish men are in favour of allowing our women to drive, but there are other points of view even if we dont agree with them. And its worth at least considering them with an open mind even if just to critique them or present a counter view.

SaveOurLyric · 12-02-2015 02:25PM

pueblo wrote: »

Not at all...foreign women don't mind being raped remember?

Thats seems to be his logic. And, from his standpoint, it is a very logical and good solution, so you cant really fault him for proposing it.

The Backwards Man · 12-02-2015 02:27PM

SaveOurLyric wrote: »

I suppose thats what the Saudi guy is doing and what the debate is about. I would be pretty sure a majority of Irish men are in favour of allowing our women to drive, but there are other points of view even if we dont agree with them. And its worth at least considering them with an open mind even if just to critique them or present a counter view.

I want to stick a straw up your nose and suck your brains out.

It's not necessarily something you would agree with, but sure why don't we keep an open mind and have a discussion about it?

Magico Gonzalez · 12-02-2015 02:39PM

I'll never set foot in that country nor any of it's grotty little satellite states while this puerile dross is accepted as critical thinking. It's feeble nonsense dreamt up to keep a hateful sectarian cult in charge of their little mysognist, homophobic, racist paranoid oil sodden world. Happily executing more people than ISIS , sponsoring terrorism and indulging in state sponsored slavery.

Islam is a peaceful religion, wahhabism is a nasty virulent strain of blind sectarian bilge mixed in with a dictatorial family running the country. They make Opus Dei look like a hippy commune.

It's the fcking camels I feel sorry for.

Venus In Furs · 12-02-2015 11:28PM

SaveOurLyric wrote: »

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-historian-claims-western-women-drive-because-they-dont-care-about-being-raped-10038861.html

Its a view I wouldn't necessarily agree with, and am sure there are a lot of Irish people who would consider his opinion incorrect.

SaveOurLyric wrote: »

I would be pretty sure a majority of Irish men are in favour of allowing our women to drive

SaveOurLyric wrote: »

you cant really fault him for proposing it.

Why are you downplaying this?

It's a view you "wouldn't necessarily agree with", you're sure there are a lot of Irish people who would consider his opinion incorrect, you would be pretty sure a majority of Irish men are in favour of allowing "our" women to drive, "from his standpoint, it is a very logical and good solution, so you cant really fault him for proposing it".
'Da fuq?

You know full well people would outright condemn his point of view and obviously don't disagree with women driving (what's this "I'm pretty sure most people" thing about?

).
Yes we obviously can fault him for proposing it.

He can hold and express his opinion, and others can condemn it - i.e. hold and express *their* opinions.

I don't get this devil's advocate thing in fashion - some views are just wrong.

SaveOurLyric · 13-02-2015 01:04AM

Venus In Furs wrote: »

I don't get this devil's advocate thing in fashion - some views are just wrong.

Yet you can make such a peremptory statement as the above. Thats the thing about views, they are neither right nor wrong, rather, different perspectives on the same subject. Surely any view is due consideration even if refuted in the end?

Who is the more dogmatic here, you or Dr al-Saadoon ?

Venus In Furs · 13-02-2015 01:06AM

SaveOurLyric wrote: »

Yet you can make such a peremptory statement as the above. Thats the thing about views, they are neither right nor wrong, rather, different perspectives on the same subject. Surely any view is due consideration even if refuted in the end?

Who is the more dogmatic here, you or Dr al-Saadoon ?

The doctor. This fad of "People who deny free speech are worse" is a pain in the neck.
Yes views can be wrong, of course - they are not always subjective. People are entitled to hold them and express them, and others are entitled to refute them.

Women drive because they dont care about being raped

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