Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Read Mod Warning in OP 7/1/15

The Moldy Gowl · 11-02-2015 12:41PM

Pro. F wrote: »

It is wrong to think that people are only concerned about performances because of how they relate to the pleasure of the fans. People point out when performances are bad because that is a good indicator of when we can expect results to be bad.

Well I think it's more just the hyperbolic nature of them really.

Yeah we have been playing awful, no one is disputing that, but we are also getting results which the drama society don't like to factor in, only doom and gloom

The way I see it is if we play badly and can get results, then it's not as bad as people think. Obviously playing well will give the players more freedom and confidence.

kstand · 11-02-2015 12:41PM

newballsplease wrote: »

With players like Rooney,RVP,Mata,Falcao DiMaria, rojo,blind,shaw i thought we might have a chance.

I was hoping we'd consolidate mid-table myself.

Vic Vinegar · 11-02-2015 12:41PM

bangkok wrote: »

Scholes must have seen my post yesterday as he has the exact same opinion as me....

Aye, you pros all stick together.

bangkok · 11-02-2015 12:43PM

I said it here before, but if Madrid were mad enough to get rid of Anchelotti in the summer, I would say thank you very much to van gaal for your contribution and go all out to make him the next manager

irishfeen · 11-02-2015 12:50PM

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

Hate that too adox.

We are Manchester United and thumping our chests.

Totally discounts the other teams and players we have to play against

It's funny because I was saying that on here last year under Moyes and almost every single person on here gave me a bollocking for it.. The LVG effect!

Spazdarn · 11-02-2015 12:52PM

Van Gaal is definitely a bit of a spoofer, all talk of philosophy, but no results... he's been at the club 9 months now, we'd surely see some progress.

I am happy though that he has trimmed the squad a bit though, far too many freeloaders left over from Fergies time, and he's moved quite a few of them on.

He's been left with a fairly crap defence in fairness, so I won't go on a witch hunt until after the summer, if he hasn't bought adequate defenders by then, he can go do one.

Mantis Toboggan · 11-02-2015 12:53PM

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

Hate that too adox.

We are Manchester United and thumping our chests.

Totally discounts the other teams and players we have to play against

Yeah, having spent 150 million in the summer how dare we believe that we can beat teams like West Ham and Aston Villa.

bangkok · 11-02-2015 12:59PM

Tyson Fury wrote: »

Yeah, having spent 150 million in the summer how dare we believe that we can beat teams like West Ham and Aston Villa.

yea + 64m on mata and fellaini

Pro. F · 11-02-2015 01:01PM

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

Well I think it's more just the hyperbolic nature of them really.

Yeah we have been playing awful, no one is disputing that, but we are also getting results which the drama society don't like to factor in, only doom and gloom

The way I see it is if we play badly and can get results, then it's not as bad as people think. Obviously playing well will give the players more freedom and confidence.

"People" is a very broad group. Some people are exagerating with their criticisms of the team and some people are exaggerating in their defence of the form and performances.

If somebody points out that the performances haven't been good enough, responses talking about a cup final from 10 years ago are just obfuscation.

TheDoc · 11-02-2015 01:03PM

Tyson Fury wrote: »

Yeah, having spent 150 million in the summer how dare we believe that we can beat teams like West Ham and Aston Villa.

I'm sure City fans having the same anger at them drawing at Hull, or completely failing to defend a league title.

Money spent on players does not quantify instant or immediate success. That shouldn't need explaining. Our two most successful signings from the summer were the two cheapest....

The Moldy Gowl · 11-02-2015 01:05PM

Tyson Fury wrote: »

Yeah, having spent 150 million in the summer how dare we believe that we can beat teams like West Ham and Aston Villa.

So we wave our willies at them and hope they roll over?

You and Bangkok particularly show such disrespect to other teams. Ye think the other team can't even kick a ball. You're discounting the fact they are also in the top division and play soccer as their job. They will try not to lose and try to win. There is no 'bad' teams.

Conversely lvg shows a bit too much, maybe me too.

squadro · 11-02-2015 01:06PM

Pro. F wrote: »

"People" is a very broad group. Some people are exagerating with their criticisms of the team and some people are exaggerating in their defence of the form and performances.

If somebody points out that the performances haven't been good enough, responses talking about a cup final from 10 years ago are just obfuscation.

Think I agree, just have to check what obfuscation means.

CSF · 11-02-2015 01:07PM

Spazdarn wrote: »

Van Gaal is definitely a bit of a spoofer, all talk of philosophy, but no results... he's been at the club 9 months now, we'd surely see some progress.

I am happy though that he has trimmed the squad a bit though, far too many freeloaders left over from Fergies time, and he's moved quite a few of them on.

He's been left with a fairly crap defence in fairness, so I won't go on a witch hunt until after the summer, if he hasn't bought adequate defenders by then, he can go do one.

No results? A draw tonight at home to Burnley would fire Man United above Arsenal into 4th, a win could even get upto 3rd if West Ham carry on from Sunday. Where exactly were you expecting to finish?

keane2097 · 11-02-2015 01:09PM

TheDoc wrote: »

Erm, maybe Van Gaal's presser had an actual effect?

SSN have been rolling out loads of stuff about it this morning explaining how we are high in the table of "long passes" but low on "long balls".

Even OPTA have been clarifying the difference between long balls and long passes, and that while United do heavily utilise a long pass, they do not use a long ball (playing a ball over 35 metres into space, rather then at a team mate)

Again maybe feel it's something that didn't need to be addressed, but has had some decent coverage today somewhat vindicating his point.

It's also shown the continued seething of Jackson and Ogden of their agenda, as people questioned them this morning if they intentionally misused the long pass table to fit their own agenda/narrative.

Pathetic. Embarrassing even.

Rayne Wooney · 11-02-2015 01:09PM

I'd take Rooney playing at 10 tonight and Ander in midfield, it's not ideal but it's surely going to be better than what we've been seeing lately with a proper midfielder in there

Ideally Rooney to replace RVP or Falcao and both Mata and Ander in but when have we ever got an ideal lineup from Van Gaal...

The Moldy Gowl · 11-02-2015 01:09PM

Pro. F wrote: »

"People" is a very broad group. Some people are exagerating with their criticisms of the team and some people are exaggerating in their defence of the form and performances.

If somebody points out that the performances haven't been good enough, responses talking about a cup final from 10 years ago are just obfuscation.

That somebody who in particular is one if the most hyperbolic in this thread.

I don't value his opinion as I and many others thinks it is nonsense. I can take it at face value. Would I treat you or someone else differently who haven't been crying. Of course.

his posts have no credibility.

JaMarcusHustle · 11-02-2015 01:17PM

bangkok wrote: »

http://www.lovellsoccer.co.uk/Football-Boots/Puma/King-Mixed-Sole-SG-Football-Boots-Metallic-White-or-High-Risk-Red-or-Black

the puma boots on this site seem to be very cheap?? are they real leather, I've worn the black puma king all my life normally cost €120?

Just saying...!

bullvine · 11-02-2015 01:19PM

Some lads on this thread. Van Gaal a spoofer, yeah some spoofer alright, won the league with every team hes managed. Set the framework in motion for 3 of the greatest club sides of the last 25 years.

Some nonsense!

Mantis Toboggan · 11-02-2015 01:25PM

bullvine wrote: »

Some lads on this thread. Van Gaal a spoofer, yeah some spoofer alright, won the league with every team hes managed. Set the framework in motion for 3 of the greatest club sides of the last 25 years.

Some nonsense!

Wasn't he sacked at both Barcelona and Bayern?

yabadabado · 11-02-2015 01:28PM

Its typical ****e really.
When United are winning they are never that good ,they get all breaks, refs are afraid of them,they got lucky etc etc.
When United play poorly or have a bad result they are finished, never will win the league again or get CL football,the club is in free fall.

Same tired old clichés from the usual suspects.

efb · 11-02-2015 01:33PM

CSF wrote: »

No results? A draw tonight at home to Burnley would fire Man United above Arsenal into 4th, a win could even get upto 3rd if West Ham carry on from Sunday. Where exactly were you expecting to finish?

Arsenal have a better GD- you stay 5th unless you win

Will I Amnt · 11-02-2015 01:40PM

Tyson Fury wrote: »

Wasn't he sacked at both Barcelona and Bayern?

If we were to avoid managers that had been sacked/resigned before then you could write off nearly every other manager that was touted as the right man for the job. Mourinho, Ancelotti, Klopp...

Maximus Alexander · 11-02-2015 01:45PM

My main concern tonight is whether West Ham can take points from Southampton. Madness to be genuinely worried about Burnley at home.

Copper_pipe · 11-02-2015 01:47PM

http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2015/02/11/rafa-benitez-confirms-van-gaal-has-gone-full-benitez

The Moldy Gowl · 11-02-2015 01:49PM

Copper_pipe wrote: »

http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2015/02/11/rafa-benitez-confirms-van-gaal-has-gone-full-benitez

Just watch as people quote that as fact.

CSF · 11-02-2015 01:51PM

efb wrote: »

Arsenal have a better GD- you stay 5th unless you win

Not a United fan, I stand corrected nonetheless. Can't see United not winning tonight though.

bullvine · 11-02-2015 01:51PM

Tyson Fury wrote: »

Wasn't he sacked at both Barcelona and Bayern?

Nobody is immune to sackings, look at Mourinho. I have every faith in Van Gaal, yes hes done crazy things, but so has Fergie and Mourinho.

Give me a viable alternative to Van Gaal? with the exception of Ancellotti who has already been mentioned.

digzy · 11-02-2015 01:53PM

Who was the player involved in the alleged incident with the girl in the jacks?

Maximus Alexander · 11-02-2015 01:57PM

digzy wrote: »

Who was the player involved in the alleged incident with the girl in the jacks?

Could that question be any more vague? I suppose if you replaces 'jacks' with 'place'.

The Moldy Gowl · 11-02-2015 01:57PM

digzy wrote: »

Who was the player involved in the alleged incident with the girl in the jacks?

The answer is in your question.

Alleged.

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