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Georgian style house for new build

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  • #32
    Strolling Bones
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 615 ✭✭✭Strolling Bones


    I'm not ranking one approach above another. Just pointing out the incredible and unlimited possibilities. Keep an open mind is all I am saying.


  • #33
    Strolling Bones
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 615 ✭✭✭Strolling Bones


    Dr Turk Turkelton wrote: »
    Is there any chance you know who designed these? If so could you find out who his LSD dealer is and pass the number on post haste!

    Without imagination or the desire to try new things we would not have the internet for you post that message.


  • #34
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 43,181 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    People think they know what they want when really they want what they know.

    *not my words ;)


  • #35
    digzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭digzy


    lownhard wrote: »
    I looked up that Moynsha place. Awful gaff imo. Adding a floor of dormer windows and putting in pvc windows is hardly at the heart of good conservation/restoration. Taste is subjective but class is objective. Both those houses are tasteless and classless imo.

    I think I've made my point...moving on...

    For the third time......
    I asked for suggestions regarding magazines/ books etc that I can present to an architect to explain what I want in a house that I'll be living in:rolleyes: can you not read.
    I didn't ask you for an opinion. I've no interest.
    However, I've my own taste and I'll spend my money on what I like irrespective of your opinions.


  • #36
    893bet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,802 ✭✭✭893bet


    Strolling Bones wrote: »
    I'm not ranking one approach above another. Just pointing out the incredible and unlimited possibilities. Keep an open mind is all I am saying.

    Fair point. Different designs are usually associated with a higher cost, or the normal joe soap perceive them to be! Where they are or not is another thing of course but that is the perception of grand design type houses.


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  • #37
    the_syco
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    digzy wrote: »
    I asked for suggestions regarding magazines/ books etc that I can present to an architect to explain what I want in a house that I'll be living in:rolleyes: can you not read.
    May be worth contacting these; www.igs.ie

    Check when this is doing tours again; www.castletown.ie it was saved by Desmond Guinness and the Irish Georgian Society. Have gone again recently, and it looks a lot better than it did.

    They probably have a list of houses that they've helped preserve, and may have a few tips for where you can source certain prefabricated parts?


  • #38
    Strolling Bones
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 615 ✭✭✭Strolling Bones


    OP you could look here

    http://www.fingalcoco.ie/planning-and-buildings/apply-or-search-for-a-planning-application/view-or-search-planning-applications/

    and search using the keyword "Abington".

    A Celtic Tiger development of "Georgian" mansions. Each looking like it really belongs in a country estate but in fact located in a North Dublin housing estate.

    There you will see plans and elevations of how some of our "celebreties" spent thier money on "Georgian Style"

    Also have a nosey around the place on google maps here


  • #39
    DOCARCH
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,980 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    The biggest problem is that when you say 'Georgian' all sorts of images spring to mind!

    What a lot of people think of as Georgian architecture may not be Georgian architecture at all...but...built in the Georgian period (i.e. approx. 1770 to 1830)...there were a lot of Palladian style houses built during that period...but...that does not mean that style is Georgian architecture.


    I could work with somebody who said they liked this...good example of Georgian...
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    I could not work with somebody who said they liked this...(very) bad example of (mock/pastiche) Georgian...
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    Note that I would not choose to build and live in a Georgian house myself...but I would not mock somebody whose preference is that style...that's their choice (...and, by the way, not a question of 'class'!).

    As an architect, if somebody said they really wanted a Georgian house, I would not turn my nose up...I would work with them to make sure they did not end up with something like the second photo above!


  • #40
    Strolling Bones
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 615 ✭✭✭Strolling Bones


    In musical parlance - why choose One Direction for the soundtrack to your life when you could choose Florence and the Machine....


  • #41
    DOCARCH
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    Strolling Bones wrote: »
    In musical parlance - why choose One Direction for the soundtrack to your life when you could choose Florence and the Machine....

    It's subjective...there is no right answer...that's the answer!


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  • #42
    893bet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,802 ✭✭✭893bet


    DOCARCH wrote: »
    It's subjective...there is no right answer...that's the answer!

    Strolling bones (their current user name) is right and everyone else jus has poor taste


  • #43
    Strolling Bones
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 615 ✭✭✭Strolling Bones


    893bet wrote: »
    Strolling bones (their current user name) is right and everyone else jus has poor taste

    I have contributed a link to dozens of built examples in response to the OP query.

    What have you done to assist?


  • #44
    Tedddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 140 ✭✭Tedddy


    Georgian houses are easy to design with the right proportions, right windows, right doors. They will also not go out of fashion like the majority of recently built houses which will be seen as outdated in 10 years such as pebble dash, mock georgian and bungalow blight houses.


  • #45
    FarmersSon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 ✭FarmersSon


    No connection with this firm, but I have admired their work for a long time. I think they have traditional and classic style architecture in new build houses down to a T.

    Top end of the fee spectrum, but I guess you get what you pay for.

    -snip- . com (still unable to post links . . grr) Based up North.

    If I had the money at the time, I would have engaged with them from the get go on my build.

    I've been through 3 redesigns with two different architects, from big boxy house, to a simplified style, and now on to a Victorian style single story dwelling.


  • #46
    BarneyMc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,504 ✭✭✭BarneyMc


    Strolling Bones wrote: »
    What a house looks like is limited only by our imagination - or lack of

    Rolling-Homes-by-DO-Architects-7-537x329.jpeg

    ...or getting an architect to be able to design this, or cost, or planning permission, or ability of local builder to build...


  • #47
    Strolling Bones
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 615 ✭✭✭Strolling Bones


    I know.
    Just trying raise sights a little....


  • #48
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 43,181 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    i think the big difference between the arguments over "taste" is that its not just the aesthetics that are to be considered.

    People may or may not like the look of modern "boxy sh!te" .... but very few people would actually have lived in these homes therefore again its a case of "wanting what you know" rather than knowing what you want.
    Its in these cases where the faux georgian deep plan homes fall down and properly designed and orientated homes win out.


  • #49
    Strolling Bones
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 615 ✭✭✭Strolling Bones


    One doesn't have to have a box design - just free oneself from Georgian - or any other fixed "style".
    At the very least do not turn ones back on the advancement in glass technology in recent years to maximize views , natural internal light and solar heat gains.

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    Egeon-Architecture-timber-frame-house-5-537x359.jpg


  • #50
    Calibos
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    Dermot brought his home owners to the Sligo gaff in the third Photo on Room to Improve the other night.


  • #51
    Strolling Bones
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 615 ✭✭✭Strolling Bones


    Did not know that


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  • #52
    digzy
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    Calibos wrote: »
    Dermot brought his home owners to the Sligo gaff in the third Photo on Room to Improve the other night.

    I was watching that the other night too. I can't think of anything more depressing than sitting out in that room when the rain is pissing down! I know it's a personal taste thing but if the weather is good I'd like to think I'd so something constructive like mowing the lawn or going for a walk etc... I'd go nuts trying to read a paper in that glass room, either the sun would blind you or the rain would piss me off. Those seats don't look too comfy either. Like something in my little lads crèche.

    Regarding the terrace on the programme, my architect mentioned something like that, where we could go outside of an evening and watch a movie! Which would be fantastic in a nice climate, but it rains here a fair amount and if not it's too cold to be out in something like that....and as for the fire.....if you need to stick on the fire to heat up I can't think of a less energy efficient way to do it. I'd rather be inside.

    Really liked the look of the work by those nordy designers. At last I can take something to my architect.


  • #53
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 43,181 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    digzy wrote: »
    I was watching that the other night too. I can't think of anything more depressing than sitting out in that room when the rain is pissing down!.

    but sitting endlessly under a fluorescent light is MUCH better for you :rolleyes:
    The general impression is that it rains quite a lot of the time in Ireland, but two out of three hourly observations will not report any measurable rainfall.
    from met eireann


  • #54
    digzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭digzy


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    but sitting endlessly under a fluorescent light is MUCH better for you :rolleyes:


    from met eireann

    Just like in fight club! Mmmm

    Where did I mention fluorescent light? Grow up


  • #55
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 43,181 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    digzy wrote: »
    Just like in fight club!
    just offering you facts... you can lead a horse to water etc


  • #56
    digzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭digzy


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    just offering you facts... you can lead a horse to water etc

    when you go to a restaurant does the waiter/waitress take your order or do you let the chef pick what you eat........;)


  • #57
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 43,181 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    digzy wrote: »
    when you go to a restaurant does the waiter/waitress take your order or do you let the chef pick what you eat........;)

    some people will go to a restaurant and always order steak, other people are adventurous.
    like i have said, "people want what they know"....


  • #58
    Strolling Bones
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 615 ✭✭✭Strolling Bones


    digzy wrote: »
    when you go to a restaurant does the waiter/waitress take your order or do you let the chef pick what you eat........;)

    First time I visted a Chinese restaraunt , Greek , Indian and Thai I choose AFTER listening to the waiter.

    In fairness - you know what you want.


  • #59
    BryanF
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 10,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭BryanF


    digzy wrote: »
    Grow up

    please attack the post not the poster, thank you


  • #60
    BarneyMc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,504 ✭✭✭BarneyMc


    I'm probably opening myself up to some digs (please be kind folks!) but here's the house I'm building: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=91086713&postcount=1755

    The south elevation is around to the right and has a lot of glazing. I've tried to re-create a farmhouse but with some modern design on the hidden side.


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  • #61
    mrcheez
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,294 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    OP have you thought about the style of houses in the Georgian Village, Castleknock, Dublin?

    http://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/159-georgian-village-castleknock-dublin-15/1876070

    Might be more modern than you are looking for.

    To be honest I don't follow why everyone is against your desire to build in the classical style which I particularly like myself. Boards forums tend to be cliquey anyway, so they'll all support each other's viewpoints regardless.

    The modern houses on display here in this thread look cold and sterile.


    EDIT: I take it you've already decided on a design anyway at this point as this thread is several months old.


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