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08-02-2015 07:28PM

Paul Scholes 107 goals on now...time for antoher can

bangkok · 08-02-2015 07:33PM

another terrible, uninspiring performance.

All the love for blind last week, id said we would see how good he was today and apart from the goal was non existent, even pulled out of 2 challenges.

id say right now van gaal is the most uninspiring manager right now in the league

RobertKK · 08-02-2015 07:34PM

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Paul Scholes 107 goals on now...time for antoher can

That is what we need right now in the team.

What he lacked in tackling, he made up with some great goals.

08-02-2015 07:35PM

OMG Shcoles goal against Bradford in 2000

Cracker

I miss him so much

FutureGuy · 08-02-2015 07:40PM

What annoys me is LVG saying we look to exploit the oppositions weakness.

West Ham were missing both centre halves.

If there was any day to make runs to pull people out of position, it was today. Instead, our strikers made their job easy.

Paul Tergat · 08-02-2015 07:43PM

M!Ck^ wrote: »

OMG Shcoles goal against Bradford in 2000

Cracker

I miss him so much

One of my all time fave goals. I was there, in the City end, my home town, and could barely celebrate.

irishfeen · 08-02-2015 07:45PM

Anyone else genuinely worried we might miss out on Europe again? - Liverpool, Spurs and Arsenal all playing superior stuff to us.

Lord TSC · 08-02-2015 07:47PM

irishfeen wrote: »

Anyone else genuinely worried we might miss out on Europe again? - Liverpool, Spurs and Arsenal all playing superior stuff to us.

Playing "superior" and still below us. Honestly, I'd rather be playing poor with room to improve yet be ahead, than playing well but risk dipping and yet still behind.

Montroseee · 08-02-2015 07:48PM

irishfeen wrote: »

Anyone else genuinely worried we might miss out on Europe again? - Liverpool, Spurs and Arsenal all playing superior stuff to us.

Yes, LVG is making utterly bizzare decisions. The 12/13 yr olds I coach would be able to identify the problems with the starting eleven today.

bangkok · 08-02-2015 07:48PM

need to get rooney up front, totally wasted in midfield, only fellaini brought on, wouldnt really count smalling, herrera mata wilson all wasted on the bench, falcao and van persie will never work as a partership

08-02-2015 07:49PM

Paul Tergat wrote: »

One of my all time fave goals. I was there, in the City end, my home town, and could barely celebrate.

For me its either that one or the one against Villa in 2006

RobertKK · 08-02-2015 07:50PM

Goal 91 would win awards.

Rayne Wooney · 08-02-2015 07:50PM

Feel like a broken record every time I come on here, Rooney in midfield, crossing being our only method of attack. The same problems and it seems Van Gaal is the route of them all

Cantona's Collars · 08-02-2015 07:52PM

irishfeen wrote: »

Anyone else genuinely worried we might miss out on Europe again? - Liverpool, Spurs and Arsenal all playing superior stuff to us.

So long as we keep getting results it won't matter,European football is back on the agenda and their squads will be stretched.Nevertheless our quality of play needs to improve,it's alright putting 2 or 3 past a piss poor team but as soon as anyone puts up a fight or defends as a unit,we struggle.

FutureGuy · 08-02-2015 07:53PM

Lord TSC wrote: »

Playing "superior" and still below us. Honestly, I'd rather be playing poor with room to improve yet be ahead, than playing well but risk dipping and yet still behind.

Playing superior and a point or two away from us. Southampton will be thereabouts too. We have room to improve but here has been no improvement in months.

irishfeen · 08-02-2015 07:55PM

Lord TSC wrote: »

Playing "superior" and still below us. Honestly, I'd rather be playing poor with room to improve yet be ahead, than playing well but risk dipping and yet still behind.

14 games left - they have more then enough time to pass us out, we have some very hard matches coming up in those 14 too ... City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Spurs, Everton etc. ... this really is going to be a struggle.

08-02-2015 07:56PM

Lord TSC wrote: »

Playing "superior" and still below us. Honestly, I'd rather be playing poor with room to improve yet be ahead, than playing well but risk dipping and yet still behind.

I think he's more getting to the point that if LVG would actually make the correct decisions we could be well clear of any of the challengers for top 4

So many needlessly dropped points this season when we should have been looking to win against weaker opposition

irishfeen · 08-02-2015 08:00PM

Honestly my big worry is the length of time its taking LVG in realising it just isn't working going forward with Rooney in midfield ... he is a world class manager and I am confident he will sort us out within a year but my only worry is it will be too late this year and we will slip down to 5th.

Finish outside CL places then his head will be there for the taking and the press/some sections of the fans will have the daggers out.

Your Airbag · 08-02-2015 08:00PM

I know Falcao missed a good chance today but I though he was very good especially in the second half once we went behind.

Both RVP and Falcao suffered from the system and lack of service overall but both tried hard today. RVP was unlucky with a couple of shots he got off too.

Falcao was dropping deep and scrapping even after he missed the chance without letting the miss get him down and went on to set up RVP. His attitude is great.

Rayne Wooney · 08-02-2015 08:01PM

If we aren't careful the "playing crap but still in the top 4" will turn into "played crap all season but only just missed out on top 4"

Quandary · 08-02-2015 08:02PM

bangkok wrote: »

All the love for blind last week, id said we would see how good he was today and apart from the goal was non existent, even pulled out of 2 challenges.

We could have had Lothar Matthaus or Essien in his prime in place of Blind today and it would not have helped us. You can't expect one midfield player to cover the defensive weaknesses of Rooney and Januzaj. It's too big of a task for any one player. In a midfield 3 you simply cannot have 2 passengers like we had today.

MythicalMadMan · 08-02-2015 08:07PM

adox wrote: »

His form has been poor for a while alright but absolutely nothing to do with his physique. He's been built like a bean pole all his career and has done alright for himself. He needs to find form again, not worry about bulking up, which is a bizzare suggestion.

Lol its hardly bizzarre the premier league is a tougher league physically than the spainish and if a player is having trouble adapting putting on a bit of muscle would make it easier and maybe help get his confidence back. Its not like it would have a negative effect on him. he could easily add some strength without any it being detrimental to his "form finding"

If anything is bizarre its that your against something that only has positives.

08-02-2015 08:09PM

Your Airbag wrote: »

I know Falcao missed a good chance today but I though he was very good especially in the second half once we went behind.

Both RVP and Falcao suffered from the system and lack of service overall but both tried hard today. RVP was unlucky with a couple of shots he got off too.

Falcao was dropping deep and scrapping even after he missed the chance without letting the miss get him down and went on to set up RVP. His attitude is great.

A question for you on this..should it be both Falcoa and RVP up front or just one in your opinion?

Hate repeating myself but the only reason there is a lack of service is because we simply are not playing the right players in the right areas

And I feel sorry for Falcoa because he was forced to drop deep and search for scraps

The worst thing is I have a feeling LVG will lay the blame on him and not look at the actual reasons why he's struggling

Cantona's Collars · 08-02-2015 08:14PM

Falcao never stopped running and fighting for the ball today,in fairness he should've scored when through on goal.
RVP looked like he wasn't interested most of the time,a damp squib for his 100th appearance.

the whole year inn · 08-02-2015 08:15PM

Any one have the stats on rooney second half,the sky commentators after the game where saying something crazy about him in the second half stats wise and wanted to see what they where on about.
Sorry about being vague.

I see york was saying Falcao is still up in the air if he should be kept,surely time to chop.The cash paid for him he should be delivering straight away never mind over half way into the League.The question is who would ya get to cover him Cavani to me see seems ideal with Rooney up front.If you could pry Lewandowski from Atletico he would do damage.

adox · 08-02-2015 08:16PM

MythicalMadMan wrote: »

Lol its hardly bizzarre the premier league is a tougher league physically than the spainish and if a player is having trouble adapting putting on a bit of muscle would make it easier and maybe help get his confidence back. Its not like it would have a negative effect on him. he could easily add some strength without any it being detrimental to his "form finding"

If anything is bizarre its that your against something that only has positives.

Hold on. He hit the ground running in the league before he got injured. It's obviously his natural physique. Your solution is for him to bulk up, missing the point completely. His physique just isn't an issue, never has been. His form is an issue. His touch, his control, decision making etc etc. nothing to do with his physique and yes it is bizzare to suggest so.

chupacabra · 08-02-2015 08:18PM

Falcao doesnt belong in this system im afraid. I'm reminded of the Keane/Berbatov system back with Spurs. Both tuned to eachother, one willing to provide for the other. We HAVE to put Rooney up with RVP/Falcao. He's wasted at 10 when we have fcking Mata and Herrera as options.

adox · 08-02-2015 08:19PM

chupacabra wrote: »

Falcao doesnt belong in this system im afraid. I'm reminded of the Keane/Berbatov system back with Spurs. Both tuned to eachother, one willing to provide for the other. We HAVE to put Rooney up with RVP/Falcao. He's wasted at 10 when we have fcking Mata and Herrera as options.

Rooney isn't playing as a 10.

Robson99 · 08-02-2015 08:22PM

Hococop wrote: »

He did not play till the 70th minute what's the excuse for playing **** for the first 70

LVG and his non existant philosophy

MythicalMadMan · 08-02-2015 08:22PM

adox wrote: »

Hold on. He hit the ground running in the league before he got injured. It's obviously his natural physique. Your solution is for him to bulk up, missing the point completely. His physique just isn't an issue, never has been. His form is an issue. His touch, his control, decision making etc etc. nothing to do with his physique and yes it is bizzare to suggest so.

Ya he played well but hasnt really seemed up for it since he is back just doesnt look up for getting kicked and out muscled all game without getting free. It has worked for other players that have come to the premier league. And your suggestion that he cant add some strength training without inhibiting his other training is interesting.

As I said its bizarre to be against something which has no down side and hopefully a very positive upside

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